Need to re-home my adult Weimaraner

Dry Rot said:
DR - ^^^^^^ What absolute rubbish. Are you seriously suggesting that all Labradors /Spaniels/Pointers/Setters etc are barely disguised child molesters that are too dangerous to be a pet ? Wow.
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Yes, I am. Perhaps not all but certainly many. And, if you knew anything about breeding and training, you'd agree with me.

It depends entirely on the circumstances, which we all hope do not put any animal into a situation where it feels threatened and needing to protect itself.

I would suggest that 70 years is not long enough to breed out these characteristics entirely -- at least not without a lot of inbreeding and selective culling. But then the documentary "Pedigree Dogs Exposed" claimed that that is happening, so there we go.[/QUOTE]

Gosh. How do you know the extent of my knowledge ? I have had either a Lab or an English pointer my whole life, that I have bred and trained. They work the whole season and they are our beloved pets. They live with us, in the house, very happily. I have never known any one of them to have anything other than a fantastic temperament.

Perhaps you you know some vicious ones, I cannot know, but if you do, as you suggest, perhaps it's the way you treat and train them, rather than the breeds themselves, as you suggest. Just a thought.
 
I don't really see why people are seemingly wilfully misunderstanding DRs point.

Almost ALL breeds which we now regard as pets, have, for many many years been bred specifically to enhance their capabilities at their job, which is often killing small animals of seeking out blood/dead things.
It is only in a comparatively very short space of years that they have been brought into the house as pets.
As we know, most pet dogs have wonderful natures. But we must never forget that underneath, yes, they ARE capable killers. And NO amount of training will change this base instinct.

Which is why you should never, EVER leave one alone with small children.

I fail to see what there is to dispute about that?
 
I was under the impression a weimaraner is a hunt point retrieve dog, therefore NOT bred to kill but to flush game and retrieve to hand without bruising or damaging the quarry- but yes every dog has an ability to injure a human to a greater or lesser degree.
 
Dobiegirl said:
You really are the biggest **** stirrer on this thread, people like you who run with the hare and hunt with the hounds quickly lose their credibility, your earlier digs at clicker training were hardly helpful and added nothing to this thread. The OP could have been the queen of England for all we know, we still dont know her from Adam so why withold the truth? not all of us are blessed with crystal balls, people lie when they dont get the response they are expecting, its life, Im not saying the OP lied but we were not told the truth in the beginning so draw your own conclusions from that. Anyway you have spoken to the OP and believe what you have been told just like we all did with the information in the opening post, has it occurred to you that even now you may not know the full story so instead as painting yourself whiter than white and the AAD guru take a leaf out of your own book and make sure you are in full receipt of the facts before criticising members of this forum who were only told one half of a very bizarre and changing story.
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Very well put Dobiegirl - it now appears that the OP was, to all intent and purposes, an internet troll who was giving us half a story. That poor dog is all I can say.

And Alec, if you find this area of HHO so reprehensible, please do the right thing and stop posting in here, your ability to set yourself up as a forum guru with expert knowledge on any matter really doesn't work here as your lack of knowledge is clear every time you post.
 
Booboos said:
Quite a few people on AAD are involved with rescue organisations, or have rehomed rescue dogs or have worked hard to turn around dogs with behavioural issues so it's understandable if there is a certain amount of frustration with someone who, apparently, wants to rehome an elderly dog after a minor, preventable incident. It sounds callous so it puts people's backs up. If there is more to this story then maybe the rehoming makes more sense, but how are posters to know this? Of course you should not disclose confidential information but the OP should either return and clarify for everyone or re-think the wisdom of posting half a story.
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Very well said Booboos
 
Okay, I'm going to say it because this thread is annoying the heck out of me. I would never have a previously good and faithful dog who I'd owned for 9 years killed or rehomed just because it nipped my 3 year old child when she hurt it while it was sleeping. I do not see that act as a sign of aggression and I find it highly irritating to see posters comparing what the dog did and labelling it an aggressive dog. If this happened in my household then I would change my animal husbandry so that both dog and child were safe.

I was nipped on the eyebrow by my collie as a child. I was probably about 4 or 5 years old and I remember I was hanging all over her and when she nipped me I blooming well deserved it! What happened next? I was told off by my parents for pestering the dog and I learned that lesson first hand so I didn't do it again.
 
SnowOnSnow said:
I don't really see why people are seemingly wilfully misunderstanding DRs point.

Almost ALL breeds which we now regard as pets, have, for many many years been bred specifically to enhance their capabilities at their job, which is often killing small animals of seeking out blood/dead things.
It is only in a comparatively very short space of years that they have been brought into the house as pets.
As we know, most pet dogs have wonderful natures. But we must never forget that underneath, yes, they ARE capable killers. And NO amount of training will change this base instinct.

Which is why you should never, EVER leave one alone with small children.

I fail to see what there is to dispute about that?
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Thanks for putting my point so well. You are better with words than I am and certainly have more patience!
 
Smokie said:
Hello all,

Really hoping that somebody may be able to help me re-home my beautiful Weimy girl.

Her name is Smokie and she will be 9 yrs old in March 2014. She has been our loyal, loving family pet since a few weeks old.

We have a daughter who is 3.5 yrs old and also have 3 cats. She adores two of the cats and has a bit of a love/hate relationship with the third. She also adores my daughter.

Sadly a few days ago, the dog was fast asleep in her bed and my daughter scratched her stomach and caught one of her teats, the dog woke from her sleep with a yelp and caught my daughters cheek.

She has never bitten anybody or shown any kind of aggression in the nearly 9 yrs we have had her, but as a Mother I just cannot take the chance going forward as children will always do things they should not do.

My husband and I have come to the heartbreaking decision that we will have to find another loving home for her.

If anybody can help me then please do contact me as we are desperate to see her find a loving home. I absolutely CANNOT put her in a rescue home in the meantime as it would kill her and us.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received.
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Agree with the others, not dogs fault just one of those things. Just nicely tell your daughter when dogs asleep leave her alone.
A cat would have reacted the same with a scratch, give girl another chance and when dog asleep keep an extra eye out or shut the door/ take your daughter with you if you have to leave the room and sleeping dog.


I cannot see the justice sentencing this dog as aggressive or being compare to dogs who are, when all this was was an accident. The dog didn't bite she nipped her way of telling a human that hurt. Not saying I am going to rip you to pieces. This dog has been in the family for years without incident - how many other people can say their cat or dog may have accidentally caught owner's flesh even in a game?
 
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What a strange thread! OP was never going to get any useful advice when only posting half a story. Quite frustrating for those that tried to help. 90% of whom weren't rude at all. Anyway, glad those that sent PMs and got involved have managed to find out the whole story and pointed OP in the right direction for answers or help.

I haven't ever found this section of the forum more friendly than others. Some times I have felt there are some proper yappy terrier types on here! Quite amusing really. They say we are like our dogs!

It would have been nice to have known the whole story and formed an educated opinion from that. Best of luck to the dog and owner.
 
Dg, under normal circumstances, I'd ignore your poorly reasoned argument, and the only reason for responding is to correct your inaccuracies. Your offensive and foul temper leave you rather bereft of clear argument. I'm surprised to see that your satellite disciples are so few, but none the less, perhaps correcting you will support your rallying of your little coven.

Dobiegirl said:
You really are the biggest **** stirrer on this thread, people like you who run with the hare and hunt with the hounds quickly lose their credibility, your earlier digs at clicker training were hardly helpful and added nothing to this thread.

Trouble making was never my intention and I've said and done nothing to give you reason to arrive at such an assumption, unless of course your hoping to provoke an equally spiteful response.

Your use of the term of running with the hare and hunting with the hounds, was a rather telling comment. Perhaps I could point out to you that your support of those who were being needlessly cruel, overlooks the fact that the OP was asking for help and advice, and supports the fact that she was being treated harshly. I understand that to have your way, and to fail in an argument may well be what has driven you to this rather silly tirade.

The OP could have been the queen of England for all we know, we still dont know her from Adam so why withold the truth? not all of us are blessed with crystal balls, people lie when they dont get the response they are expecting, its life, Im not saying the OP lied but we were not told the truth in the beginning so draw your own conclusions from that. Anyway you have spoken to the OP and believe what you have been told just like we all did with the information in the opening post, has it occurred to you that even now you may not know the full story....

Of course it may be so that I'm not in possession of all the facts, and it's also possible that I've been lied to. As a judgement, I suspect that the lady concerned has told me the truth.

You continue to refer to only knowing half the story, and as others, if that's the case, then what on earth qualifies you to sit in judgement? Do explain. You too, by your own admission don't actually know what happened, but it hasn't prevented your little tantrum, has it?

.... so instead as painting yourself whiter than white and the AAD guru take a leaf out of your own book and make sure you are in full receipt of the facts before criticising members of this forum who were only told one half of a very bizarre and changing story.

I've never, as you rather quaintly say, "Painted myself whiter than white", indeed the opposite, and the reference to being a forum guru was a tongue in cheek remark, as there are quite enough in AAD who don't enjoy having their proclamations questioned. Far be it from me to unsettle an established regime.

I will stand by my criticisms of those who were needlessly aggressive with the OP, and despite your argument to the contrary, the "facts" as you say, were on the page for all of us to read.
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As you seem to have applied your own rather distorted views, and to suit your own ends, and your own words would lead one to imagine that you have a hidden agenda, I see little point on further discussion.

Alec.
 
Wow I go for dinner and a bath and come back and need popcorn :eek: Really people no need for the nastiness implied or otherwise.

I dont think anyone who said that the dog required another chance was un necessarily harsh on the OP but given that we know half a story by the looks of it I dont know how other the OP expected us to react.

SF put it quite well I think from reading this thread. All we have put are our opinions on what WE would do given the scenario that was put to us, as others have said post this onto a board of dogs lovers and your bound to get a reaction when it has been portrayed that the dog got a fright.

Whether or not that is the case now to me is irrelelvant considering the tangent this has taken. OP whatever your story is, as I personally have switched off to this, I hope you find a suitable resolution that suits both you your kiddie and the dog in question :)
 
Sorry, this thread still comes across to me as a complete joke. Why does someone bother posting half a story which paints them in a bad light (not the dog) and then expect people just to give them advice on rehoming when there is (apparently) no actual reason?
Seemingly there is ‘more to the story’ (so we are lead to believe). However, no one seems willing to divulge what this is. Fine, this is the OP’s personal life but then this begs the question as to why they posted in the first place whithout full details? Why not just put something along the lines of “need to rehome dog due to personal circumstances – if anyone can help could/give advice, please could they PM me”. Would have been a lot simpler and would have avoided getting many people’s backs up as it has.
As it is, this post just comes across as yet another person deciding their dog doesn’t fit with their life anymore so they’d like to palm it off on someone else! Is this harsh? Maybe. So shoot me! Maybe I am just fed up hearing from my friend (who works in dog rescue/fostering) of how many elderly dogs and indeed very young pups have been dumped ALREADY this month and this story doesn’t sound too dissimilar. With any luck (for the dog) someone on this forum may have the answer to spare it from being destroyed unnecessarily or ending up waiting for months/years for a new home in a rescue.
 
ladyt25 said:
Sorry, this thread still comes across to me as a complete joke. Why does someone bother posting half a story which paints them in a bad light (not the dog) and then expect people just to give them advice on rehoming when there is (apparently) no actual reason?.
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OP wanted advice on how to best go about responsibly rehoming her dog. Not to be flamed for even suggesting rehoming it.
For WHATEVER reasons, which are NONE of our business, she has decided to rehome her dog.
She posted on a dog forum to hopefully get some helpful advice on rehoming from people who know about dogs.
Instead, she was severely chastised for even considering it, and flamed for not sharing every aspect of her story with us (which was irrelevant anyway, as she wasn't asking whether she SHOULD rehome or not, but rather how best to go about it).

All round, AAD at its usual best I'd say..! :rolleyes3:
 
What I don't get is why post the question in the first place ? It was obvious what responses it would get and if you really want to rehome a dog I think we all know the options available...can't see how anybody is going to come up with an easy answer. All very odd, especially as a first post and the implied pm's.
 
SnowOnSnow said:
OP wanted advice on how to best go about responsibly rehoming her dog. Not to be flamed for even suggesting rehoming it.
For WHATEVER reasons, which are NONE of our business, she has decided to rehome her dog.
She posted on a dog forum to hopefully get some helpful advice on rehoming from people who know about dogs.
Instead, she was severely chastised for even considering it, and flamed for not sharing every aspect of her story with us (which was irrelevant anyway, as she wasn't asking whether she SHOULD rehome or not, but rather how best to go about it).

All round, AAD at its usual best I'd say..! :rolleyes3:
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To be fair, I am now past caring. I think it was a pointless post and the OP wasn't "chastised" they were just advised to reconsider given the information THEY provided. As said, had they given more or actually less detail then this thread would not have gone on past more than a couple of posts. Having a go at other forum users is a tad harsh because they dare to have an opinion over a 1st time poster's story (hey in NL they would have been jumped on and declared as a 'Troll' within 2 posts!).

I hope the OP has achieved what they set out to and that the poor dog lands on it's feet.
 
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