Never met one of these before

Zoe67 said:
and don't you find that these women in there big 4 x 4s never say thank you if you let them out?

South bucks is crawling with them!
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And the other thing that peeves me off big time is when they open the door into the road and stay there for ages getting their sprogs out while they never give a hoot about the traffic, One did this to me she suddenly opened the door while my horse box was approaching, and I very nearly took it off.


Then the last one had her door wide open in a tight area by a school and she gave no hoot about the traffic and on this occation I screamed out " why don't you used the bloody pavement, it is what it is for" !!!!
 
RunToEarth said:
Is this an accepted measurement of how horsey someone is?! We are farmers, two out of the three 4x4s we have do not have tow bars - we have a lorry and four horses (although being recognised as unhorsey is only ever a good thing from my POV!)
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No not always but round here it is very horsey and predominantly all the school run cars are 4x4 or suv's no tow bars only kids. So there are some 4x4 without towbars but I bet those few are covered in mud as if they been on a farm :D so you can see they are working cars not spotless 4x4 who never ever see much, therefore I think you can tell a working car to a posing car lol
 
HGA-12 said:
And the other thing that peeves me off big time is when they open the door into the road and stay there for ages getting their sprogs out while they never give a hoot about the traffic, One did this to me she suddenly opened the door while my horse box was approaching, and I very nearly took it off.


Then the last one had her door wide open in a tight area by a school and she gave no hoot about the traffic and on this occation I screamed out " why don't you used the bloody pavement, it is what it is for" !!!!
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but of course the world revolves around women in 4 x 4s, how could you not know that???
 
HGA-12 said:
Sorry if I offend anyone, but round here many who have 4 x 4 or cars that loook like them but are not, buy them as a status symbol as a taxi to pick up kids. They have NO tow bar so you know they are not horsey and they buy these things and cannot drive them let alone reverse them. Is it just south bucks or other areas???

Sorry but if I was a mother ( which I am not and never will be ), and wanted something nice to drive the kids around and luxurious i would rather one of these in my experiance of them

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHEVROLET...119614?hash=item3ac1a80e7e:g:vzcAAOSwBLlU~evz
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Oh thats not even just England, Scotland has them too. Its great fun when they realise I wont actually move over into a ditch for them and am quite happy for them to hit my car if they dare to (they never do). They just like to believe that because they spent £70,000+ on a car that that gives them the rule of the road. I may only have a citroen C4, but I can drive it like I am driving a tank and its worth far less than your precious vehicle so go right ahead and scratch yours on mine, it will give me a laugh. Funnily enough, they move over very quickly when they realise I wont be forced out of the way into the ditch. Whats even more fun is when I am driving the L200 truck, they actually willingly get out of the way then as its bigger than the disco's and range rovers.

Will say I will move over to let them past, but I refuse to put my car into a ditch just because they dont want muddy tyres. I move a bit, its their job to move the rest. If they wont, oh well, thats their choice, but we'll be sitting for a while if they dont. Thankfully, most people up here are reasonably forgiving, its just a few that arent. Its a shame that those few ruin it for everyone else.
 
Well I managed to watch the first video by looking at the OP's other uploads. The OP had only just passed a big lay by when the car came in the other direction, the OP then squeezed past the bike and carried on driving towards the car. I don't really understand why the OP couldn't have stopped when she saw the car coming in the opposite direction, and reversed her trailer the few yards back into the lay by, instead of making the car reverse really quite a long way. The driver of the car seemed perfectly capable of reversing so I think all the comments about how she's incompetent are unnecessary.

OP I know you hate any sort of criticism however I don't think you're completely in the right here. If you're in charge of a trailer you really should able to reverse it such a short distance, I've never jackknifed a trailer by reversing it. Maybe you should get some trailer driving lessons.
 
rachk89 said:
Whats even more fun is when I am driving the L200 truck, they actually willingly get out of the way then.
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:-D I find this too, I have an 11 year old battered L200 (4 work) and a Smart car - no one ever tries to bully me off the road in the former.
 
ester said:
Can't get the first vid to work HGA?

The ones that annoy me, on our narrow roads are those with the 4x4s that will not put them anywhere near the verge or heaven forbid off the tarmac while I shove my little kia rio in a hedge for them :p
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It annoys me that people think just because your driving a 4x4 they can stay in the middle of the road and the 4x4 will have to go onto the verge/ditch/hedge! whether towing a trailer or not!. We have a private school near to the yard and the parents use the narrow lane as a cut through and cant possibly get there shiny cars dirty. I have found that if you just keep driving (L200, theme going on here!) they will get out of the way eventually.
 
HGA-12 said:
They have NO tow bar so you know they are not horsey and they buy these things and cannot drive them let alone reverse them. Is it just south bucks or other areas???
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How do you know they don't have tow bars fitted? Some 4x4s (including my own) have detachable tow bars.
 
Gift Horse said:
:-D I find this too, I have an 11 year old battered L200 (4 work) and a Smart car - no one ever tries to bully me off the road in the former.
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Yeah its like everyone just moves to one side for you so you can go through isnt it? To be fair though, if its a narrow gap and the other vehicle is obviously gonna struggle, I will drive off road to let them past because lets face it, who is less likely to get stuck?
 
Some of the worst are the 'Yummy Mummy' crowd who bring their little precious up for a riding lesson at the yard where I keep my boy. They drive way too fast down the single track lane that leads to the stables. Glare angrily if they have to slow down for riders who have the audacity to be riding along the lane. Can't reverse in to the passing places when they encounter a horse box or trailer and yet would raise merry hell if someone did that to their little princess.

Some come up the alternative entrance which is also the drive we have to take our horses to and from the fields. The expression of utter annoyance on their faces when they have to slow down when they pass us leading our horses. And then when you smile and wave to thank them they stare stonily ahead refusing to make eye contact.
 
Some people appear to think the road I live on isn't a real road for some reason. It's a single track lane, but there are two farms, three cottages, and a small livery yard on it, it really is an actual road! Now the weather is warm I've come home from lessons to find minibuses parked across the road as though the junction was a layby, people picnicking sitting down in the road, and on one memorable occasion people parked in the road errr.. 'having it off' in the back seat in broad daylight.
My OH was coming up to the farm one day when he found a car, again, parked across the road as though it was a layby, with two women in walking gear getting out. He asked them what on earth they were doing, only for them to tell him "oh it's alright, no one goes down this road!" they left, grumbling, when he informed them he was attempting to drive down it, and that their tiny car would stand little chance if one of my dad's customers needed access (my dad repairs tractors and farm machinery for a living - his customers aren't known for their patience).
I've also been stopped and told "this road is access only!" to which I've replied before I could stop myself "Well I've lived here for 27 years and I've never seen you before". He deflated like a burst balloon.
 
JennBags said:
Well I managed to watch the first video by looking at the OP's other uploads. The OP had only just passed a big lay by when the car came in the other direction, the OP then squeezed past the bike and carried on driving towards the car. I don't really understand why the OP couldn't have stopped when she saw the car coming in the opposite direction, and reversed her trailer the few yards back into the lay by, instead of making the car reverse really quite a long way. The driver of the car seemed perfectly capable of reversing so I think all the comments about how she's incompetent are unnecessary.

OP I know you hate any sort of criticism however I don't think you're completely in the right here. If you're in charge of a trailer you really should able to reverse it such a short distance, I've never jackknifed a trailer by reversing it. Maybe you should get some trailer driving lessons.
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Jennbags if you care to google the lane you will see it one track only and no passing by for me here are the coordinates https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7...4!1s6gOKZTaCJC0vodcr99bVBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 and the nearest one is down the lane a bit and it is down hill, so I would have had to back up down a hill a good way baring in mind the Terrano is a high car and the trailer is low
 
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Buddy'sMum said:
How do you know they don't have tow bars fitted? Some 4x4s (including my own) have detachable tow bars.
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Because detachable ones that I have seen and Have one on my Pontiac still leaves the metal rod visible underneath for the tow bar bit to slide into AND you still need electric hook up which is visible
 
You can see the passing place in the video, right before you meet the cyclist.

Also baffled by the high/low issue - it's a Terrano, not a tank. It's tiny.

Finally, some nice 4x4s have detachable towbars and electric hook ups which are hidden behind plastic covers. Mine has one, though I don't actually bother to put it back on, and I replaced the towbar with a fixed one. From the front, it looks like a proper townie car though.
 
Ah yes, the 3rd video,
one where you drive past a pulling over place
and your passenger says that the cyclist should stop and let you past... no idea why they would think that!?! I can guarantee if I were the cyclist going up a hill I need all the momentum I could get and would have carried on past the car and left you pair of numpties to it :p.

I also don't understand why you were so adamant the trailer would jack knife?

Essentially I am now baffled.
 
pennyturner said:
I have an old Rice which only goes backwards if you put a pin in the hitch (which must be removed when towing to allow the brakes to work), so live in fear of meeting the kind of old bat who can't reverse down some of the local lanes. It's astonishing how many people can't.
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I've got one of those! Was out with it one day, having been to pick up some hay and was nearly home; narrow road with passing places, daft bint in a Freelander stops up the road and starts waving me on, so I wave her on to pass me, but she won't budge. Hey ho, off I went to demonstrate that passing her wasn't a great idea. Oh boy, she couldn't drive to save her life! Ended up with a nice cyclist helping with the reverse pin/watching the front of the trailer etc. and her swearing at me, doing the whole 'if you can't reverse, you shouldn't be driving' thing, bashing my trailer with her hand and telling me that 'that thing shouldn't be on the road, just how old is it anyway?' and finished off by her revving the guts out of her heap, then dragging her wheelarch along my mudguard as she zoomed off to the next disaster.

I used to drive large buses through Ilminster :p I have many, many tales of people's reversing fails when meeting a large vehicle. I used to drive a school route that went between Allerford and Bossington, where the lane was so narrow, I had to fold in both mirrors. I am more than capable of reversing :D

I was driving a minibus one day, with passengers (not supposed to reverse with passengers on board) on and I had just turned left at a very tight junction. Middle-aged woman coming the other way nearly drove into the front of my vehicle, got out and started ranting the whole 'if you can't reverse etc....' then rang my boss to complain that I was too far over to the left. Yep, the LEFT.

There is a lot of it about. As Pedantic would undoubtedly say - NOA
 
HGA-12 said:
Jennbags if you care to google the lane you will see it one track only and no passing by for me here are the coordinates https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7...4!1s6gOKZTaCJC0vodcr99bVBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 and the nearest one is down the lane a bit and it is down hill, so I would have had to back up down a hill a good way baring in mind the Terrano is a high car and the trailer is low
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Why would I Google the lane? I can see the passing place quite clearly on the video :confused3: I've towed several different types of trailer with my nissan terrano, and I've still never jackknifed one, so I don't see how any of that is relevant. The fact is that you were in the wrong, you should have stopped and reversed. What would you have done had the vehicle coming the other way also been a horse trailer? It might even have had horses in it, which yours didn't - who would have had right of way then?
 
The nearest area NOT I might add a layby as the whole lane is a single track and only had one made the cars pulling onto the verge creating an area to move into is down the lane a bit and it is down hill , so I would have had to back up down a hill a good way baring in mind the Terrano is a high car with the tyre on the back and the trailer is low out of vision, I normally use my mirrors but going down hill into a space already occupied seemed foolhardy

Oh thanx for the advise but I get plenty of practise reversing my caravan back into its parking space and backing this trailer into its tiny shed along with many other times I reverse it including I might add reversing it round the house I visited fountain area.


The issue here is

A. I was going up hill, where you should give way to up coming cars
B. I was pulling a trailer
C. I not only had a bike but there was a small tractor which was 100 yards away behind me in the "not layby" but a pull in
D. my passenger also knew it would be more time consuming me reversing down 100 yards to where the tractor had stopped than her reversing to the top of the hill and there was not enough room for me and the tractor in this place if she had come down to where I could have pulled in.
Anyway it is all done, down and finished, but had she not straightway got out and started throwing insults at us, there would have been no need for me posting this, it was the uncalled insults and demanding why I was in a public lane not a private lane and even walking back to her car we could hear the insults thrown. When we got to the top of the hill just past where she reversed me was the house I was going too and the cyclist and me stopped and talked and he also could not believe this woman's attitude. the house I went to said this woman was always like this even forcing delivery trucks to reverse down the hill.
 
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HGA-12 said:
Because detachable ones that I have seen and Have one on my Pontiac still leaves the metal rod visible underneath for the tow bar bit to slide into AND you still need electric hook up which is visible
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Well, most of the detachable ones I've seen have a cover, including my own. A "townie" Mercedes ML that was only ever used for towing.

I've found it's better not to make assumptions about these things.

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You actually make no sense.

You should have stopped when the bike did. You were right next to the passing place at that time. Whether there was a tractor behind you or not is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that you should have stopped at that point, but you didn't. You stated that you told the woman driving the car that you would jackknife the trailer if you reversed it, so of course she assumed you had no reversing skills as anyone who can't reverse a trailer a few yards without it jackknifing really should not be allowed to drive a trailer.

This is not the first time you've posted a road rage incident and been told that you are in the wrong. Maybe you should try to learn something from all these incidents and modify your own behaviour.
 
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HGA-12 said:
Because detachable ones that I have seen and Have one on my Pontiac still leaves the metal rod visible underneath for the tow bar bit to slide into AND you still need electric hook up which is visible
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On my RR everything is hidden behind the tow bracket cover. Although not at the moment because I lost it the last time I used the trailer :D
 
HGA-12 said:
The nearest area NOT I might add a layby as the whole lane is a single track and only had one made the cars pulling onto the verge creating an area to move into is down the lane a bit and it is down hill , so I would have had to back up down a hill a good way baring in mind the Terrano is a high car with the tyre on the back and the trailer is low out of vision, I normally use my mirrors but going down hill into a space already occupied seemed foolhardy
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No one said it was a layby did they? Just a pull in space which yes is clearly verge but it clearly wasn't swimming with water and has been used a an area to move into it as you say...

I love that you normally use your mirrors, I always used my mirrors when towing on the basis that otherwise all you could see was horse trailer. Maybe if your passenger hadn't also been so entitled that everyone should clear the way for you they could have seen you back rather than pointlessly squeezing past a cyclist who then had to come past you again.

I still don't understand your determination that it would jack knife because you were going down hill?? trailers don't jack knife unless driven badly and I am not surprised you then got that reaction from her if you were declaring it would for certain jack knife!
 
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HGA-12 said:
And the other thing that peeves me off big time is when they open the door into the road and stay there for ages getting their sprogs out while they never give a hoot about the traffic, One did this to me she suddenly opened the door while my horse box was approaching, and I very nearly took it off.


Then the last one had her door wide open in a tight area by a school and she gave no hoot about the traffic and on this occation I screamed out " why don't you used the bloody pavement, it is what it is for" !!!!
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Tsk. Some people shouldn't be allowed on the road!!!

Of course I mean you, not her.

If you "nearly took her door off" you were travelling too fast and too close to a potential hazard. You "screamed at her" to use the pavement well, how classy are you. As far as I am aware the pavement is for walking on not parking on.

Lastly if you can't reverse a trailer without jackknifing it, you shouldn't be towing.

What a liability.
 
hollyandivy123 said:
we had some Londoners move into the hamlet, lovely little cottage roses in the garden etc, directly beside the milking parlor of one farm, opposite the yard entrance to another dairy farm................. they wrote to the farmers to ask, if one they could milk at a more reasonable time as the early milk was waking them up and two the cow s**t on the road was ruining the BMW, ended up moving. its like people who move next to a church and complain about bells ;)
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This has just reminded me about the lady who lives in my old village who requested that the farmers didn't harvest when it was breezy and dry as the dust got into her house from the open windows and ruined her washing on the line... This same woman sunbathes topless by her swimming pool and then moans that the drivers of combines and tractors look at her... Oh and the same woman who moans about mud on the road, tractors driving past her house and the occasional wheel marks on her pristine front lawn... And don't even get me started on the fuss made when they are muck spreading. Seriously I give up! She actually deems herself as a 'country woman' and owns horses and dogs. Find it hilarious myself. Sister used to work for her and the stories we could tell would fill a book.
 
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