New sign in dog walking area

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Just got back from walk in small park area, used to be the rubbish tip for the town but been turned over for recreation to Parish Council.
No play areas on it or anything. During the pandemic area not been closed. Since yesterday the county council have erected a sign re Coronavirus
Stay Home, Save lives, Keep 2 - 3 metres apart, Dogs must be kept on a lead ! Areent they a tad late for this, 10 weeks or so? We have never had to keep dogs on lead, just under control. Ive been walking here for the past 25 years. Not even sure the County Council have any jurisdiction there, though they maintain the pipes taking off the methane etc. Actually its 30 years since the place closed and methane still coming off it, that seems a long time doesnt it Was never a huge tip when it was open. area is about 3 ac res I suppose. Bit cross just having a moan really!
 
I've been keeping mine on a lead as a precaution anyway, rather than have to go and retrieve him if he decides to ignore recall, which he rarely does.
The other one stays on a line all the time anyway as a rule.
I wish other people would too, so that they don't have to come within 2m of me to get their dog with it's nose stuck up his arse.
 
Is the area subject to a Dog Control Order (or whatever it is they are called now... PSPO?) 'Dogs on leads by direction' is a thing. I do often wish it was more of a thing, for the same reason as CC. Not saying it applies to you or your dog PL!
 
Dont Know BC, as I said the sign put up by the parish council yonks ago just says dogs under control, no cycling, no picnics etc!
I think it will be generally ignored anyway, and if you come in through one of the other two access points there is no sign there !
Im just hoping its not a thing the CC is going to erect at all the other country parks etc as dogs always been allowed off lead in them.
Old signage as it doesnt say Stay Alert :) they must be a bit behind!
 
Is it definitely the Council who have posted it up? Could it be another dog walker or cyclist or whoever that also use the area and would prefer people keep their dogs on a lead? It does sound rather late and out of date.

I haven't been anywhere with other people and dogs for months now so don't know what the norm is/was regarding letting dogs off during the pandemic, but I think I would have mine on leads in situations where I was likely to see other people and dogs for the same reasons CC mentioned.
 
Coronavirus (COVID-19): advice for people in England with animals
If you do not have symptoms of coronavirus

You may leave your house to walk your dog. You must stay 2 metres away from anyone outside of your household.

When walking your dog in areas used by other people, you should consider putting your dog on a lead to ensure you can stay 2 metres away from others.

You must wash your hands before and after handling your dog.
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It seems to have been universally ignored!
 
Ha ha ha I’ve been walking all of mine on a lead and I’d actually forgotten why I’d got into that habit - it was because of this! (I can’t always trust my boys not to go awol if they see a small fluffy!)

I don’t think I’ve met anyone else on a dog walk who is taking any notice of it ? my dogs have been attacked by a dobermann and a collie in separate incidents in the last 10 days.....
 
I have been deliberately walking at anti-social times and less popular places and still managed to encounter a repeat offender late on Monday night. I am not on for being chased and cornered by an enormous growling dog when walking on a footpath in the middle of town so that one's been reported to the dog warden, though I know nothing will come of it.

Most of the time it's just the drip-drip-drip stress and unfairness of detaching a rude but non-aggressive dog from the arse of one of mine, but I think this one is actually capable of a human bite. ?
 
Got to say the two encounters I had left me feeling like Popeye - my bicep muscles really ached the next day from holding back 3 furious hounds (and the usual furious terrier!) to stop them engaging with the loose dogs who were barking and snapping in their faces. If I hadn’t been worried about my dogs getting bitten, I’d had let them go ?
 
CorvusCorax said:
You wouldn't pay me to go anywhere popular or indeed anywhere at normal hours, that's been the case for months. The numpties have been out in force from the start.
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I thought the churchyard at 22.30 would have been a safe bet, only me and the ghosties. ? Got pursued by a Gordon setter instead, of all things!
 
blackcob said:
I thought the churchyard at 22.30 would have been a safe bet, only me and the ghosties. ? Got pursued by a Gordon setter instead, of all things!
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I still remember my tiny tiny whippet furiously chasing a Gordon Setter away across the common.... that has to be 30 years ago now..... bless her, she didn’t take any crap from big dogs ???
 
Straying off topic slightly but why is it that Gordon setters are so much less numerous than the other types? I haven't seen many Gordons at all, ever.
 
Levrier said:
Got to say the two encounters I had left me feeling like Popeye - my bicep muscles really ached the next day from holding back 3 furious hounds (and the usual furious terrier!) to stop them engaging with the loose dogs who were barking and snapping in their faces. If I hadn’t been worried about my dogs getting bitten, I’d had let them go ?
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Straying slightly off topic but I've stopped walking my oldies anywhere I may encounter any off lead dogs - we stick to the roads now. Neither of them would be strong enough to fend off a dog attack.

In all honesty, it wouldn't bother be if it was made mandatory for dogs to be kept on a lead in all recreational areas, i.e. parks, beaches etc. It would save a lot of hassle.
 
Moobli said:
Straying off topic slightly but why is it that Gordon setters are so much less numerous than the other types? I haven't seen many Gordons at all, ever.
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My aunt has always had them, I've not had much exposure to the other types of setter but I can see why they aren't all that numerous.
All have died prematurely, one wouldn't do stiles and another was afraid of the dark.
 
ester said:
My aunt has always had them, I've not had much exposure to the other types of setter but I can see why they aren't all that numerous.
All have died prematurely, one wouldn't do stiles and another was afraid of the dark.
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That is interesting ester, especially that despite the early deaths your aunt continues to have them. What attracts her to the breed?
 
deb_l222 said:
Straying slightly off topic but I've stopped walking my oldies anywhere I may encounter any off lead dogs - we stick to the roads now. Neither of them would be strong enough to fend off a dog attack.

In all honesty, it wouldn't bother be if it was made mandatory for dogs to be kept on a lead in all recreational areas, i.e. parks, beaches etc. It would save a lot of hassle.
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I live in the middle of nowhere thank goodness so rarely have to bother with out of control dogs and their owners, especially at the moment, but I do enjoy going to the beach, woods and forest when not in lockdown where I do see other people. I always used to hate the idea of compulsory lead laws in public spaces but I can actually see the benefits to this if it were restricted to public parks and recreational areas but not sure I would want to see it extended to beaches, in forests etc. It used to be the few feckless dog owners that caused problems for the majority of owners who had control over their dogs, when did it change?
 
Moobli said:
Straying off topic slightly but why is it that Gordon setters are so much less numerous than the other types? I haven't seen many Gordons at all, ever.
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I trust this one's aggression isn't typical of its breed but I was astonished by its size, humongous horrible bugger of a dog. I think the rest of the setters are of more sensible proportions?

deb_l222 said:
Straying slightly off topic but I've stopped walking my oldies anywhere I may encounter any off lead dogs - we stick to the roads now. Neither of them would be strong enough to fend off a dog attack.
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Yup, my oldies acted as a very effective bodyguard for the small dog but I just can't keep exposing them to it, it's not fair. Dog #1 takes no messing but is arthritic and doddery on her elbows now, dog #2 has always been scared and reactive of dogs getting in his face on-lead and now his eyesight isn't the best. They have a limited range of 'safe' walks at 6am and that's it.

Now I am the bodyguard and I am shouty and 'orrible. ?
 
CorvusCorax said:
I've seen more Gordons than I've seen Irish Red and Whites.
My friend bought an English setter because he thought it would be a cool breed to do agility with.
I now own all his old agility equipment ?
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LOL! I don't think I have ever seen an English setter attempt an agility course.

I know a couple of people with Irish Red & Whites so that will account for having seen marginally more of those.
 
I’ve seen more Gordons out of the show ring than I have Irish red and whites I have to say - I love Gordon setters, I think they are gorgeous looking dogs ?❤️

Their temperament has always seemed a little bit flaky - nervy rather than aggressive - to me which has put me off a little? But granted being chased by a tiny demon whippet is not a fun experience ? I could have died.....that was in the very early days, I was 17 years old and just not used to What Sighthounds Did ???
 
Straying even further off course, in the USA field English setters are pretty common with bird hunters. Some use Gordons and there used to be a fair number of breed champions that would also work in the field. The Irish have been ruined as bird dogs but have recovered from the huge popularity of the 60's and 70's and are now nice, solid dogs. The red and whites are pretty new here. I really like the ones I've met.
 
I have friends with working bred English setters and they are actually lovely dogs, good workers, and nice to look at too.
 
blackcob said:
It seems to have been universally ignored!
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Maybe because it was a suggestion as opposed to ‘You must...’ Mine won’t interact with people and are obviously kept away from other dogs.

I walk Zak on a longline if I’m on my own. With my OH, he’s off lead unless there’s another dog nearby. Bear is always off lead and despite heeling me across the field to avoid a hugely obese jrt was still attacked by the horrible thing. I was fuming! The owner didn’t appear to have a lead with her. If you know your dog will attack, why wouldn’t you have a lead with you??
 
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