News story about rider kicked in the head after a fall

Toast said:
Hmmm.... Anyone remember jazzeria??? Reminds me of her.
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Oh yes. She's still around. She's been causing scandals on local FB groups, as well as advertising her services as a groom...!!

I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail. Being associated with such a s*** publication would be even more traumatic than having my face demolished! :p
 
I haven't been on here long, so never seen Jazzeria's posts... I did a quick search on here... omg.. what is wrong with that woman?!
 
Puppy said:
I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail...
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Presumably you werent mucking around with your horse, making videos to put onto youtube? I'm assuming thats why this was picked up by the DM, as it was already put in the public domain, although thats just an assumption on my part.

I have to say, I've just watched that link, and I'm pretty shocked. The number of falls / almost falls without a helmet is ridiculous, the refusing, the broncing, standing on the pony while he's in the corner of a paddock next to other horses?? If any one of them had taken fright, she could have been very badly hurt, possibly even killed. And it looks like he has been taught to rear as a 'trick' which is a pet hate of mine - so dangerous. Just wow.

And all of this has been cut together and put onto a public domain, like we are supposed to be impressed at this display of horsemanship or something?
 
Having seen the other videos posted on You Tube here is a girl doing what kids often do with their ponies. However giving how often she seems to fall off she should definitely wear her hat at all times.

Quite often that looked like one peed off pony who looked quite uncomfortable in some of the jumping clips. Rosie, your basic position looks quite good but I would suggest you get some jumping lessons as you are not helping your pony - and are actively making his job harder - in most of the clips.
 
shame really that those whom read the daily fail will now most likely view horses as dangerous ... unpredictable yes very much so but only dangerous if you allow the situation to go that way.

I think perhaps the well aimed kick was a sign to the girl, no horse should do that and i do not condone it but i have never heard of a horse kick out in such a way without being at the complete end of its teather.
 
Puppy said:
Oh yes. She's still around. She's been causing scandals on local FB groups, as well as advertising her services as a groom...!!

I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail. Being associated with such a s*** publication would be even more traumatic than having my face demolished! :p
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Thankyou H my lemonade just came out of my nose :p x
 
Christmas Camel said:
You say you have only 'not worn a hat about 5 times' well in your video you've just posted, there are 4 occasions that you were hatless! ;)
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I counted 12 occasions. Taking into consideration that there were several other times where it was a different clip of the same occasion.

I also see that this is a lot of what I see all of the young teenage girls doing at the yard where my gf's horse and her mums is kept, as its a riding school as well, so I can understand why she's doing what she is. That being said however, none of them EVER get on a horse without a hat.

There seems to be a fascination in the teenage years with your riding ability being measured in how fast you can go bareback and how high you can jump. I can understand this as well, still being barely an adult myself, and I'm surprised by how quickly I've grown out of that mentality.

I don't know how to judge the clip of the kick, I don't think I have enough experience to tell, but thank god a hat was worn on that occasion! I also don't really have enough information to make a judgement on whether the video posted was a snapshot of daily life for the horse or whether it was purely composed of jumping/galloping/falling. I would hope however, that there is more to it's daily routine in terms of schooling and training.

:)
 
I agree with what has been posted on here Rosie.

Although having fun is why I, you and everyone else rides horses there has to be discipline and schooling. I love nothing better than hacking my horse, jumping and going for cheeky gallops in fields but I always make sure my horse listens to me and we have a good relationship based on schooling.

Rosie, from looking at your youtube channel is seems you are teaching a thoroughbred to jump before she is sent to race, I assume you mean she will then be sent to a racehorse training yard to be raced? Correct me if im wrong but did a trainer send you this horse to be taught to jump or is it the owner who sent her to you? I am just thinking that this is a little strange, because i work in the industry myself and if we have a horse who needs to be taught to jump we teach the horse ourselves, under the trainers care. But I could be wrong so sorry if this is not the case
 
JackAT said:
There seems to be a fascination in the teenage years with your riding ability being measured in how fast you can go bareback and how high you can jump. I can understand this as well, still being barely an adult myself, and I'm surprised by how quickly I've grown out of that mentality.
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I must be an acception to this rule ? never really seen what's great about hammering your horse about and putting yourself at risk as the girl did :rolleyes:
 
There's always exceptions! Apologies...didn't make it clear but I wasn't meaning to label everyone aged 13-18 as being wannabe stunt jockeys haha!

It does happen a lot though :)
 
tessybear said:
I must be an acception to this rule ? never really seen what's great about hammering your horse about and putting yourself at risk as the girl did :rolleyes:
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Look on youtube, there are HUNDREDS of teens with many many videos doing the same jumping/galloping bareback/teaching to rear thing going on.

Many "hilarious" falls too with a pony that has been taught to rear after some mad galloping/jumping session which seems to happen in every video. I can really see a similar accident happening!
 
JackAT said:
There's always exceptions! Apologies...didn't make it clear but I wasn't meaning to label everyone aged 13-18 as being wannabe stunt jockeys haha!

It does happen a lot though :)
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Oh no i totally agree with what you said i mean most of my horsey friends are like me and quite like to ensure the happiness and safety of both horse and riders. We get slated for it sometimes by younger people 15-16 usually who think it is cool to act stupid.... they won't be laughing if it ends up in a nasty accident then who will be 'cool' possible unable to walk again ?

FinalFurlong said:
Look on youtube, there are HUNDREDS of teens with many many videos doing the same jumping/galloping bareback/teaching to rear thing going on.

Many "hilarious" falls too with a pony that has been taught to rear after some mad galloping/jumping session which seems to happen in every video. I can really see a similar accident happening!
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Oh i know makes you cringe watching them, some people are not right in the mind to do some of the stuff
 
She is clearly a silly teenager doing what a lot of teenagers do with their ponies, and she has learnt the hard way that repeatedly pissing her pony off is going to end up with her getting hurt.

I had a look on her youtube channel at her other videos and she is forever falling off, jumping bareback, riding in snow and on frozen ground - and most of the time the pony looks unhappy and uncomfortable with what he is being asked to do. It is hardly surprising he lashed out, the videos where he is in the snow/frozen ground are where he looks the most uncomfortable so perhaps she just pushed him too far that day.

I will say though the video where she gets kicked in the head has been edited by herself to only show the fall, we dont get to see the run up to the fence or what happened before the fence. The pony doesnt look vicious in any of the other videos so I do wonder what she did to him before that particular jump for him to react so badly.

Then again I used to share a horse who would be so exicted on landing after a jump that he would buck, so if I had fallen off and he then bucked (he would always buck when I was unbalanced too) there is a great chance that I could have been kicked. This pony did seem to turn around and then kick her, but he could have just been turning after the fence, been spooked by her falling and bucked. It scared my old share horse when I was unbalanced, so through fear of where I had gone and what I was doing wobbling around up there he would buck - so not through nastiness but through fear.

Hopefully she will be more sensible in future and always wear her hat, stop jumping bareback and stop riding on unsuitable ground. It is a shame it went on the Daily Fail, it is giving all horses a bad rep thinking they are all angry kicking beasts, when it is clear from her youtube channel this pony puts up with a lot from her so is a saint really for not lashing out sooner!
 
Most people and horses enjoy a good gallop every now and then, albeit less now than then! I've been riding all my life, but would never endanger myself, my horses or my friends. Her riding is really senseless and totally lacks any control or direction. It's kind of like, lets see how high I can jump, how fast I can gallop, how much I can push a sweet natured pony till it snaps..
 
JennyConnor said:
Here you go Billie: RedDeviland Rosie


A lot of her videos are of her falling off or just messing around with her pony. I don't see any serious work and/or schooling being done. I may be wrong, but he looks more of a game than a partnership.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGMne62ytI

There are several moments in this video where my heart jumps into my mouth, I thought at one point he was going to kick out and have her! and that time she wasn't wearing her hat. 0.48
Rosie, I really do wish you well, and that you recover soon. I sure I speak for all of us that we do have your best intentions at heart and don't want you or your pony in harms way. Enjoy your riding and be safe. :)
 
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Puppy said:
Oh yes. She's still around. She's been causing scandals on local FB groups, as well as advertising her services as a groom...!!

I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail. Being associated with such a s*** publication would be even more traumatic than having my face demolished! :p
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Can someone please fill me in on this girl? I've searched her and she sounds, well err you know :D:rolleyes: but i cant see any of her pictures and her youtube doesn't exist anymore. Am I right to assume all the repllies the sane forum members replied where sarcastic and she was 'all the gear and no idea'?
I'm quite sad I wasn't a member for that, sounds quite interesting!
 
Puppy said:
I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail. Being associated with such a s*** publication would be even more traumatic than having my face demolished! :p
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Lol :D:D

blue89 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGMne62ytI

There is a clip in this video where my heart jumps into my month, I thought he was going to kick out and have her! and that time she wasn't wearing her hat.
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That video is awful - pure Jazzaria!! I felt sick as he was rearing and practically going over on the road :(
 
That 'something holding you back' video is awful.

I felt sick when he was rearing up on the road, he went near vertical and i thought he was going to go backwards.
At the end of the video the ground looks extremely muddy at the takeoff of the jump she is jumping :/

Why people put videos like this on youtube is beyond me.
Probably to get comments like 'oh my god you're such a good rider you're amazing!!!!1!!!111!!'
 
jess_ said:
That 'something holding you back' video is awful.

I felt sick when he was rearing up on the road, he went near vertical and i thought he was going to go backwards.
At the end of the video the ground looks extremely muddy at the takeoff of the jump she is jumping :/

Why people put videos like this on youtube is beyond me.
Probably to get comments like 'oh my god you're such a good rider you're amazing!!!!1!!!111!!'
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The sad thing is and which is probably what encourages people is that the video comments are exactly like that!
 
jess_ said:
That 'something holding you back' video is awful.

I felt sick when he was rearing up on the road, he went near vertical and i thought he was going to go backwards.
At the end of the video the ground looks extremely muddy at the takeoff of the jump she is jumping :/

Why people put videos like this on youtube is beyond me.
Probably to get comments like 'oh my god you're such a good rider you're amazing!!!!1!!!111!!'
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Also in the first 10 seconds (looks like the same day as the kick) the horse looks terribly uncomfortable. :(
 
FionaM12 said:
Also in the first 10 seconds (looks like the same day as the kick) the horse looks terribly uncomfortable. :(
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I agree :(

Though i don't blame him as he was being made to jump on snow covered, probably hard/frosty uneven ground.

Whatever happened to common sense??
 
Puppy said:
Oh yes. She's still around. She's been causing scandals on local FB groups, as well as advertising her services as a groom...!!

I'm glad when I was double barreled in the face I didn't make it into the Daily Fail. Being associated with such a s*** publication would be even more traumatic than having my face demolished! :p
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Where?! :confused:
 
I wrote a comment on one of their videos telling them that they were a bunch of idiots for trashing their ponies about on frozen ground and that I felt sorry for the wee critters. The response I got? Thanks for caring about the ponies.

@%&***@#%@
 
Just seen part of the Final Victory (think it was) video & making a horse rear at the side of the road...

The one linked mid way through the thread can't remember who by, but thought that horse was going to be pulled over backwards that was rearing on the road.

There was also a chestnut, not sure how long between when each bit of footage was shot where it paddled through a small fence and ended up on its knees that was then seen refusing a spread that looked at least 1m... Appologies if its not the same horse but the markings looked the same.

Cringed at quite a bit & also wouldn't jump on snow/ slush etc as surely if the snow is wet then it will be slippery.
 
fatpiggy said:
Sorry love, but while we all think our horses are perfect, kind souls, 40 years experience of horses tells me your pony went out of his way to turn round and aim his kick very precisely. You were incredibly lucky and you should learn a very serious lesson from it. I knew someone who was jumping their horse and it was refusing so he gave it a good leathering. The horse then decked him, cantered around the arena and came back and jumped fair and square directly on him. They are perfectly capable of thinking for themselves and just deciding they have had enough and will indulge in a spot of revenge. Arabs are particulary intelligent, more so than many of their riders and need sometimes quite different handling to other breeds. Moral of the day is 1. ALWAYS where a properly fitted, done up hard hat, 2. respect your pony, he isn't a machine, 3. don't jump in frozen conditions. Even a sand school will freeze. Next time you might not be so lucky.
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I couldn't agree more! The first thing I learnt when vaulting ponies when younger was - how to roll well out of the way!!

I actually don't think this pony to be malevolent - he was just kicking out at something he didn't like without thinking ( they never do bless'em) the fact that it happened to his erstwhile rider's prone form didn't matter.

He will probably always be a little too handy with his feet but it wouldn't worry me unduly.
 
Watching the two video's and reading the posts I have come to the conclusion that this is a very honest horse being ridden irrationally and dangerously. :eek::eek::eek:

I'm not gonna go on and on as a lot that has been said is what I'd agree with anyway but seriously this lass needs a good talking to in the true care of looking after a horse instead of tearing around showing off for a video


No wonder I can't bring myself to sell my young horse, I'd be devestated if someone like her ended up with him.
 
As most people would know, horses and ponies are completely different, not just in their size etc, but in their heads too. Ponies are smarter than most breeds of horse, and horses tend to tolerate less than a pony does, I have no idea why, but there's something in that inch between 14.2hh and 14.3hh that changes.

You need to start to read your horses more, Luke blatantly doesn't like being ridden bareback, he decks you constantly, runs off with you and rears when you don't ask him. When riding a horse you need to be more mature, yes we all have childish days where we want to play ponies, but not every day can be that day. WHEN you start to read your horses, you'll then get a bond and you'll have days that you can ride bareback and hatless till your heart's content, but you have to pick the day.

For example, I'm 20 (and mentally about 6) I own a TB mare, that I adore and we have such an amazing bond, you can tell because whenever someone else is riding her, she still comes up to me for instruction and reassurance. I know she doesn't like being ridden bareback, so I don't, only tried about 3 times and every time she's had her ears back and got really tense. She does, however, LOVES her jumping, so I played ponies one day, and had her going over a jump of about 1 foot in a straight line backwards and forwards as she can turn on a sixpense (que me nearly falling off when I decided I actually wanted to go around the arena and she wasn't quite up to speed with what I wanted) but I got her back into horse mode and we had some lovely work.

It's all about maturity and reading when you can play ponies with a horse (as I say) because that is exactly what you're doing. If you want to do that, get a 14hh something that you can do that with, because they rarely get peeved at you. You also have some very young horses, with youngsters you also need too be more mature, so a young horse needs a very mature, organised rider. There's no harm in ragging it around once in a while, but not all the time. That's when they get bad habits I'm afraid.

Sorry for repeating myself so much and I hope you have a speedy recovery :)
 
I also really don't understand how someone, who claims to bring on youngsters, can fall off so much when they do nothing particularly bad. Maybe you've had some really genuine youngsters, but one day you'll have one that isn't so forgiving and is meant to be produced for a job and wont put up with all of your messing around and falling off.
 
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