No haynets in lorry park, how do you cope?

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A few competition venues nearby have decided that haynets are no longer allowed in the lorry park.
Horses have to be IN the trailer or lorry to have haynet... due to the mess left behind.
How do you cope with this, my horse is chilled being tied to lorry with a haynet but would probably get stressed left in the lorry.
I have bought a 'haybag' but I don't know if they would be allowed.
Its a pain when your times are two hours apart.
How do you cope?
 
In Irelnd you arent allowed to tie your horse to the outside of your lorry so you leave it in the trailer or keep a hold of it between competitions - I dont see a problem in most cases. Im sure your horse will be fine inside with a hay net.
 
Some of the competitions around here say you have to keep you horse in the lorry/trailer between classes. Mine are happy enough munching their hay nets in the lorry.
 
I think you just need to prepare your horse in advance. Maybe take them on a short journey park up and leave to stand on the lorry with a net then take home, gradually increase the time parked up until they are happy.

This is what we will do with ours once he is over his injury as he does not like standing on the lorry either. :)
 
I don't see why people feel the need to take hay out with their horses anyway, I very rarely take any net out with me, and my horses stand fine in the trailer until they are ready.
FWIW although our ponies spent most of their weekends at shows we used to tie up outside because the partitions were awkward, ponies are very different to horses and less likely to do something stupid. I would never leave my horse tied up outside the trailer (attended or otherwise!)
 
Baggybreeches said:
I don't see why people feel the need to take hay out with their horses anyway, I very rarely take any net out with me, and my horses stand fine in the trailer until they are ready.
FWIW although our ponies spent most of their weekends at shows we used to tie up outside because the partitions were awkward, ponies are very different to horses and less likely to do something stupid. I would never leave my horse tied up outside the trailer (attended or otherwise!)
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One big answer ulcers, horses need fibre in there stomach at all times, my mare always has access to hay when we are out, she stands in her box but she still has developed them and I'm going to have to give her a high fibre feed 30 mins before competiting and she is never allowed to be without hay.
 
my pet hate is people who tie their horses up outside their lorry/trailer. They take up more parking space, swing around on long ropes, mess up the ground and are prone to getting loose. The owners are usually never around to see to them and I cannt see the plus points of doing this.Mine are always left in the lorry with a net and are very content, safe and not a problem for anyone else!
 
i have to tie my gelding to the side of the trailer, but he is never left unattended, as he is claustrophobic and doesn't travel particularly well and once we have stopped he wants out! however everything else gets put back on as it stops the risk of them getting loose. if i were to take my boy somewhere they ask you not to use a haynet i would go and speak to the stewards to explain why this isn't possible for me and if they can make an exception, the worst that can happen is they say no. however i would say if you don't have a genuine reason why you can't put your horse back in the trailer/box then you should be following the rules to the letter.
 
It is a sad fact of life that this rule has had to be put in place.As I understand it, it is because a lot of competitors do not clear up after their horses and just leave the mess for someone else to sweep up. And if it is windy, then hay will blow all over the lorry park.

Personally I never left my horse tied to the lorry/trailer especially unattended.
 
I had to leave my mare outside the trailer - see would throw a complete tantrum otherwise and once managed to pull two shoes off in a lorry when she had company!

She was ok for about half an hour when you arrived and would stand - not eating - in the trailer, but eventually she just wanted out. She box walked in her stable at home so i think this was an extension of this as she couldnt box walk in the trailer.

So she was tied up outside the trailer with a haynet and was quite happy, at events between sections i would hold her and let her pick at grass, she was content and not super stressed out and i cleaned up my mess so cant see what harm i would do. The only time she was left on the trailer was when i walked the xc course and i had to tap a note to the trailer to say i was on my own and walking the course and my mobile number in case she got stressed before i got back.
 
We are not allowed to leave our horses unattended - at most comps here - which I think is sensible. And I don't think my horses eat very much anyway, they are aware where they are and if anything would rather crop at the grass than anything.
 
Hurrah! Another sensible competion venue! After untangling lots of horses over the years with their legs over lead ropes, headcollers caught up in nets etc etc......i think its a good idea. Obviously i know some people are resposible and keep an eye on their horse but quite a few dont.
 
When I used to go out on my own to competitions horse would be tied up to lorry outside with a hay net but never left alone. I would sit in my deckchair beside him whilst we both ate lunch and he was happier knowing what was going on. Now, horse generally is in lorry if not being ridden or walked around and we sit in the living and eat our lunch!
 
Mine stand in the trailer quietly eating their net - I think its a novelty for them, as at home they never get tied up with a net. I'd rather they stood quietly, than kept pulling at a net if I'm trying to groom/plait/trim/clip
 
rossiroo said:
my pet hate is people who tie their horses up outside their lorry/trailer. They take up more parking space, swing around on long ropes, mess up the ground and are prone to getting loose. The owners are usually never around to see to them and I cannt see the plus points of doing this.Mine are always left in the lorry with a net and are very content, safe and not a problem for anyone else!
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I totally agree. it infuriates me when people tie up outside and leave their horse unattended. A friend had her brand new lorry kicked by a horse tied up to the next door lorry. We never tie outside and the horse is quite happy and safer inside.
 
I was at a show a few years ago and someone had tied their two ponies to the back of their trailer, and then unhitched the car! :eek:
One of the ponies got it's rope stuck around the bottom of the trailer and started freaking out, trying to get free, and the trailer started rolling back with it!
I tie my horse outside with a haynet, but always keep a close eye, the main reason being so he doesn't get his rope stuck around the exhaust!! he stays on the lorry though if i go off to walk course etc
 
Think no haynets at comps is a good idea. Too many people thinking their horse won't move away from the food! Seen some near horrific things happen in the past.

If they want to eat hay, they should go back on the lorry. Much safer.
 
RoseGrey said:
A few competition venues nearby have decided that haynets are no longer allowed in the lorry park.
How do you cope?
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I frequent about five show centres on a regular basis (compete nearly every weekend at one discipline or another) and one centre says no horses left unattended and another says they are thinking of not letting people have hay. To be honest I always tie to the back of my trailer on one of those cords that pull apart under pressure and my horse wears a quick release gadget attached to his headcollar at all times, both at home and away. I take copious amounts of hay with me when I go to a show and leave my horse tied to the back of the trailer and he eats as much as he wants, when he wants (as he should do) and it is no problem at all. Of course I like to park where I can see him, and try to park so he is between the back of the trailer and a fence/hedge or whatever so that no traffic is passing behind him. To do this I need to often reverse into a parking place, but I am okay doing this with all the practice I've had over the years, and it makes him much safer. I also know that he will never kick out at another horse, he is at the end of a long row at his livery yard and is often tied outside his stable and all the horses pass him and he has never kicked out in all the years he's been there. If I can't see him from the canteen/warming up arena I will take a walk over every 20-30 mins and check he is okay. The only time there is ever a problem is when he is tied up inside the trailer, he seems to get agitated and wants to get out and go going, particuarly if he thinks he might be jumping that day, something he practically throws himself up the ramp for when being loaded! Oh, and if his net runs out he will kick out the tail light of the trailer - he has smashed it before!

And finally I always sweep up after me, putting it (and any poo he has done in the back of the trailer) in the front so he is not standing on it.
 
I would not be able to go to a show that did not let you tie on the outside of the box with a haynet. I have a 17hh very athletic middleweight who just about stands still when the box is moving, he would definately not stand still if the box was parked, he will for about 30 mins with another horse inside but that is it and as he is big and powerfull he could do some serious damage inside the box, he has tried to jump out of the front of a forward facing box (i have since got rid of that) and had kicked holes in the doors next to the ramp. Tie him up outside of the box he is fine! His haynet is tied high of the floor and he is tied semi tight to double bale string (its far too easy for him to break 1 string). I compete alone, I can just about afford my classes, i could not afford a groom, I have no family or good friends in the area so yes i do HAVE to leave my horse unattended for short periods of time. Oh it would be great to have a whole hoard of people following me around but i live in the real world, if I want something done, I go and do it!
 
Unless there is someone at the trailer, then no horse/pony should be tied up to it. Simple risk management ;)

The only time I tie Billy up to side of trailer is to tack up/untack etc.

The rest of the time he is standing in the trailer with his haynet, I don't want other horse's stealing his expensive haylege ;)
 
Surely when its summer time and its hot and clammy it is better for them to be outside the lorry.
When flies are about it is better IN the lorry.

My boy was fine today in the lorry at a comp with a friend and a haynet but I wonder how he would be alone in the lorry without a friend.
He is a laid back boy but when laid back types get upset, they really get upset !!

If I take him out alone in summer, I will leave him in open lorry to keep the sun off him, as long as he has food.... he should be happy.

I NEVER leave my horse alone either in or outside the lorry, If I am competing alone I will ask the rider parked next door to keep a eye on him if I go to check scores or collect sheets etc
Then I will return the favour for them if needed.
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I wouldnt tie to the outside of a lorry or trailer, I feel they are much safer inside. I heard of a horse skin its head on the bottom of the skirts of a wagon, when he reached underneath for the grass and when I bought my first trailer years ago, I asked for tie rings on the outside. The dealer shook his head and said IW wouldnt put them on as they had had reports of horses actually pulling the trailer over when panicking.
 
rossiroo said:
my pet hate is people who tie their horses up outside their lorry/trailer. They take up more parking space, swing around on long ropes, mess up the ground and are prone to getting loose. The owners are usually never around to see to them and I cannt see the plus points of doing this.Mine are always left in the lorry with a net and are very content, safe and not a problem for anyone else!
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Couldn't agree more, think it's a very dangerous habit to get into.
 
I'd never take my horse out and about without hay. Some days we've left home at 6am and aren't home til 5pm. Are you honestly saying your horses wouldn't eat a bean for 11hrs?
 
madhossy said:
I'd never take my horse out and about without hay. Some days we've left home at 6am and aren't home til 5pm. Are you honestly saying your horses wouldn't eat a bean for 11hrs?
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^ this, not all horses will stand on the lorry. Also in Summer even with the back down it gets very very hot in a lorry especially, if you've more than one, for the horses further into the lorry. IMO better to make a rule saying you must tidy up after yourself or your entry will not be accepted next time. To OP question what about getting one of those clip on buckets with some redigrass or similar.
 
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Oh Dear - pc has got to tieing up at shows!

Horses, Trucks & Trailers have been around for decades - horses tied to the side with a haynet and not always watched by a beady eyed owner.

In summer it's far too hot to have a horse stuck inside. If they are tied up correctly then they should be OK. My babies go to shows and are tied up all day - with a bum rope and learn that they have to behave.

We have one place Waipa Equestrian Park where no horse may be left tied up to a truck or trailler but they provide yards for the horses to be left in.

I've rescued a few over the years with a leg over the rope and caught a few that have managed to escape with no problems to others. If your horse is used to being tied up they should be OK.
 
madhossy said:
I'd never take my horse out and about without hay. Some days we've left home at 6am and aren't home til 5pm. Are you honestly saying your horses wouldn't eat a bean for 11hrs?
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ditto this! I have enough trouble keeping weight on my mare as it is and she will not eat in the trailer when moving so goes without on the journey and once she arrives she wants off and would quite frankly be dangerous left in there as well as not eating. And it's not a matter of getting her used to it, she is a nosy mare who has to know what's going on around her and even at home she needs a stable with a decent view or she gets agitated.

I always tie her up outside, with a hay net and there's always either me or my Mum in attendance. But I don't tie her up on a long line as that's simply asking for trouble.

I can understand the why competition centres feel this way because of mess. But space wise you need to be able to tie up outside the trailer to tack up, do studs, boots etc. No way is there room in a trailer, a lorry maybe but we don't all have those!

ETA and it's much too blooming hot most of the year to leave a horse in a tin can aka trailer. At least when on the journey you get some air movement but none at all once you stop.
 
God what a forigen attitude! :eek:
Only stallions HAVE to be left on the lorry/trailer here unless their rider is standing next to them/holding them.

Everyone ties up to the side of the trailer/lorry generally via a piece of bailing twine. Except in the middle of winter when its actually pouring if you left a horse on a trailer/lorry here they'd bake - literally! The RSPCA would have to do rescues like they do for dogs in cars...

I have known a few horses get loose, but never cause a serious accident they tend to go to the nearest hay. Also I have never heard of a horse injuring themselves on a lead rope/ hay net.
I think to a certain extent it is what they are used to.
If somewhere here suddenly said you had to leave your horse onboard when not riding you'd have an awful lot of battered trailers and lame horses by the end of the day.

I can kind of see the space argument I guess we are lucky in that space generally isn't a problem! :)
 
I never have this problem, once Andy is off the trailer he has to be doing something or he's prancing around and becomes a danger to himself and anyone near him. We tack up in the trailer where he stands beautifully and the moment he comes off I get on.

When were done he is un-tacked and brought home or walked around in hand if we need to wait for prizes.

Even though my previous ponies would stand outside I'd prefer to do this with them as you just don't know what is going to happen, even if you are stood near them. There are too many things on the side of the trailer they can get caught on or hurt themselves on.
 
Agree Felicity_09, seems bizarre compared to over here! Only time I've ever seen horses kept on the truck is the occasional excited stallion, basically being sent to the naughty corner :p

It would get far far to hot in a truck/trailer during summer. Never heard of a horse pulling a float over, although it's always said never to tye up to an un-hitched float, and generally never to tie solid awlays to hay band so something will give!

Mine are all taught to stand, and stand sensibly when out, but they always have a haynet. The tye ups on my truck and floats are up high, with one higher for a hay net. If I have one that is a bit iffy, I can take the portable yards and set them up off the side of the truck. But we are very lucky with space at venues over here :)

Most venues have a clean up after yourself policy, which I think is great!
 
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