not saying a thing.....

[Gloi]

Since social media there are too many people monetising animals that should be euthanized.

 

[Exasperated]

Since social media there are too many people monetising animals that should be euthanized.

Or even just bolstering self esteem through posting about their animals; and naive to think vet practices never consider their ‘likes’ and social media presence, either.

 

[suestowford]

I have had a vet tell me that she would not advise colic surgery for a large Draft horse. I wouldn't have agreed to it if she had but fortunately the horse pulled through at home with the vet's treatment.

When the old pony here colicked 18 months ago the vet said the exact same thing to me, that he was not a candidate for surgery so if the drugs didn't work it would be the end for him. Fortunately he too recovered and is still here now.

 

[dorsetladette]

OP - I hope things have been arranged by now and the pony is free from pain.

 

[ester]

Actuall

If the vet in clinical attendance had advised euthanasia, it would be a brave insurance claims manager told that vet they were wrong. Possibly a compulsory second opinion with exceptionally valuable horses?
The issue is rather that for (whatever) reasons, attending vets are increasingly less likely to advise euthanasia in the first instance; worse, they are too often reluctant to advise this even as situations deteriorate. Clearly this has financial implications, but welfare considerations should be paramount, and vets can certainly override pushy or unrealistic owners when welfare dictates: prevention of suffering - but increasingly rare that they do.

Actually the beva guidelines for what conditions euthanasia of insured horses has always been been both strict and limited. They are currently being updated.

 

[Exasperated]

Actuall

Actually the beva guidelines for what conditions euthanasia of insured horses has always been been both strict and limited. They are currently being updated.

It will be interesting if the beva update states that an attending vet (or two, dependent on insurance contract) who states the welfare situation demands euthanasia, is to be disregarded.
That is the bottom line, one would always hope and expect that professionals will strictly regulate their behaviours, should go with the territory.

 

[KikiDee]

Actuall

Actually the beva guidelines for what conditions euthanasia of insured horses has always been been both strict and limited. They are currently being updated.

It is. I claimed for death and while they paid out I had to provide all the BEVA paperwork from my vet to prove that euthanasia was essentially the only option.

 

[KikiDee]

If the vet in clinical attendance had advised euthanasia, it would be a brave insurance claims manager told that vet they were wrong. Possibly a compulsory second opinion with exceptionally valuable horses?
The issue is rather that for (whatever) reasons, attending vets are increasingly less likely to advise euthanasia in the first instance; worse, they are too often reluctant to advise this even as situations deteriorate. Clearly this has financial implications, but welfare considerations should be paramount, and vets can certainly override pushy or unrealistic owners when welfare dictates: prevention of suffering - but increasingly rare that they do.

It’s a whole can of worms though as every vets ‘personal’ stance on euthanasia is very different to another’s.

I know one vet who advised a friend PTS her horse as there was no known treatment for the lameness she was suffering with and chances of the horse coming fully sound were slim. Friend chose to chuck horse in a field for 6 months and rehab barefoot as a last-chance saloon and horse came fully sound. A small miracle for sure and vet wasn’t right or wrong, just giving the facts about the the diagnosis at the time.

On the other end of the scale there’s a vet that publicises quite openly on social media that they don’t believe in euthanising elderly horses unless all treatments have been tried, regardless of how costly or invasive they are or how lengthy the recovery. Personally that wouldn’t be my own stance as an owner so if they were my vet we’d be in conflict.

I just think vets having/sharing a strong personal opinion on euthanasia either way is very tricky ground.