Numnah that will take a prolite shim

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Expensive to some, absolutely, probably to most. Best design, best quality including sheepskin, best durability, biggest choice of colours (expensive in itself as a manufacturer) and you have added a few "unnecessary" bits to get to that price, correction numnahs and squares start at about £210.


I’m going back to re-evaluate my choices 😂
 

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With the Mattes...

Is the sheepskin attached/the same type as the le mieux or knitted in wool like the nuumed ones?

Just crossing the Is and dotting the Ts before I look to press go
 

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🙄 I think I’m getting more expensive, the more I read 😂

I need to get on my laptop to do it properly. sbloom would you mind if I ran a few q’s past you please?
Not wanting to hijack OP’s thread- shall I start a new one?!
 

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Please please join in as I'm still a. scared to press order incase I've messed it up and b.it will me me feel better if someone else orders one to 🤣
 

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No idea re Prolite, but the mattes shims supplied for use in the correction pads are excellent. They are thin and flexible, and you can layer them up and down as necessary.

Wonky mare has her correction numnah shimmed asymmetrically to suit her. One shim front left pocket, two/three shims rear right pocket 🙈. She has an unlevel pelvis after a field accident.
 

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Question no. 84

Do you reckon the pockets would fit a prolite shim?

I'm quite a prolite fan

As has been said you'd need to t I'm them, depends on the exact pad combo but they're not a good fit, can be too small in some.

It's actually me that needs a shim at the minute...maybe I could invent shimable pants

Keep an eye out for sculptaseat, I hope it's coming soon. There are cycling shorts with customisable padding afaik, or you can cut out the padding on the side that you don't need.
 

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I think here is fine! Its BMA2's thread and they are happy- I just didnt want to hijack someone elses.

I was wondering about a few things.
Brief details on my saddle, Its fitted slightly too wide. As a result I have issues with pads not staying up in the gullet and unattached (poly pad type) just slide out the back. Everything just stayed with his old saddle and a poly pad was my go to pad (laziness i guess)
We rectified this by using a CC saddle cloth so i could attach tightly to the D and also thin front shims.

So at first i thought i could get one with pockets to add the thin shims, but its £60 extra and will I actually need it with the saddle fix thing? Also figured a fleece front collar would help keep it in place more.
Should the saddle fix solve this issue because it drives me nuts and i know i have a few now that do stay in place. I'd be a bit sad to spend a fortune and find it still wont stay put!


Edited to say its fitted like this on purpose! Horse makes it quite obvious what he likes and dislikes and in my saddle fitters opinion its a bit too wide but that's how he is happy so that's what she's done!
 

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I think here is fine! Its BMA2's thread and they are happy- I just didnt want to hijack someone elses.

I was wondering about a few things.
Brief details on my saddle, Its fitted slightly too wide. As a result I have issues with pads not staying up in the gullet and unattached (poly pad type) just slide out the back. Everything just stayed with his old saddle and a poly pad was my go to pad (laziness i guess)
We rectified this by using a CC saddle cloth so i could attach tightly to the D and also thin front shims.

So at first i thought i could get one with pockets to add the thin shims, but its £60 extra and will I actually need it with the saddle fix thing? Also figured a fleece front collar would help keep it in place more.
Should the saddle fix solve this issue because it drives me nuts and i know i have a few now that do stay in place. I'd be a bit sad to spend a fortune and find it still wont stay put!


Edited to say its fitted like this on purpose! Horse makes it quite obvious what he likes and dislikes and in my saddle fitters opinion its a bit too wide but that's how he is happy so that's what she's done!

To me there are two different issues here. One is correcting the fit of the saddle and there are two elements to that. One is to correct the balance (in your case probably needing to lift the front as you did with the CC cloth), but the other is also to correct the contact the panels make, and Mattes shims are WAY better placed for this. You can trim them to have, say, two layers under the tree points (5mm each, compressing to 3-4) and one or none higher up, relieving the pressure at the top of the panel caused by a too wide tree.

If your numnah is slipping because the way you have to adjust the saddle means it's out of balance and slightly umnstable, then the shims may work.

If the saddle pad is slipping even when the fit is perfect then the clip system thingy is a good idea, and helpful for people with half pads etc, downside is it means usually the saddle is stored on top of the pad which is less a good idea. A front collar helps a bit for sure, but they are fairly solidly felt lined anyway which also helps with some slipping. You can order the pads with traditional velcro (100% velcro, no binding, so attaches well to girth straps wherever they're placed under the flaps) or with D ring velcro. I think velcro for the girth itself is optional but obviously would be recommended in this instance.

If someone's spending over £150 on a sheepskin lined pad then most are persuaded to add £60 for a shim system, you never know when you might be very thankful you have it.
 

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To me there are two different issues here. One is correcting the fit of the saddle and there are two elements to that. One is to correct the balance (in your case probably needing to lift the front as you did with the CC cloth), but the other is also to correct the contact the panels make, and Mattes shims are WAY better placed for this. You can trim them to have, say, two layers under the tree points (5mm each, compressing to 3-4) and one or none higher up, relieving the pressure at the top of the panel caused by a too wide tree.

If your numnah is slipping because the way you have to adjust the saddle means it's out of balance and slightly umnstable, then the shims may work.

If the saddle pad is slipping even when the fit is perfect then the clip system thingy is a good idea, and helpful for people with half pads etc, downside is it means usually the saddle is stored on top of the pad which is less a good idea. A front collar helps a bit for sure, but they are fairly solidly felt lined anyway which also helps with some slipping. You can order the pads with traditional velcro (100% velcro, no binding, so attaches well to girth straps wherever they're placed under the flaps) or with D ring velcro. I think velcro for the girth itself is optional but obviously would be recommended in this instance.

If someone's spending over £150 on a sheepskin lined pad then most are persuaded to add £60 for a shim system, you never know when you might be very thankful you have it.
I did question this at the time. It was fitted, and since had its 3 month check. I phoned and said i was having issues with the numnah slipping and was told to try a thin set of front shims, I was a bit worried this would alter the fit but was told that it would be fine, so I'm not 100%. I mean i suppose no its not the best fit because the saddler wanted it narrower to be a better fit, horse just didn't agree.

Your very right re the might as well theory.
Ive just looked at your FB page and now want a girth as well.... the exercise sheet system also look really good....
 

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I'm finding the website quite hard work!, Possibly a me problem. Laptop (I'm working ;) ) is a bit slow in general today.
I'm going to go for a Eurofit, GP with shims and fleece collars front and back, That's my little indulgence! I love that look and if I'm spending this i may as well have it right.
My saddle is a 17" quite small Can you advise with size please?
 

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I'm finding the website quite hard work!, Possibly a me problem. Laptop (I'm working ;) ) is a bit slow in general today.
I'm going to go for a Eurofit, GP with shims and fleece collars front and back, That's my little indulgence! I love that look and if I'm spending this i may as well have it right.
My saddle is a 17" quite small Can you advise with size please?

There are measurements, every saddle is different. My used group on FB has several sizing posts in featured :), remember trim must be subtracted from the measurements and the panels should never sit on the trim.

I'll be placing an order this week if that helps anyone (might get removed for that advertising of course!).
 

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There are measurements, every saddle is different. My used group on FB has several sizing posts in featured :), remember trim must be subtracted from the measurements and the panels should never sit on the trim.

I'll be placing an order this week if that helps anyone (might get removed for that advertising of course!).
I’ll go back to your page instead and look there. Thanks
 

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There are measurements, every saddle is different. My used group on FB has several sizing posts in featured :), remember trim must be subtracted from the measurements and the panels should never sit on the trim.

I'll be placing an order this week if that helps anyone (might get removed for that advertising of course!).
I am going to do the same...re the trims (that's my splurge). If the XL is 62cm how much is made up of a fur roll (this is my issue with the le mieux one...the back is on a fur roll)
 

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And 2 more questions for luck...

would a Albion K2 Jump want a GP or Jump (I seems to cope with GP or Jump in le mieux)?

And is there an option for natural coloured wool...I saw everything but

Thank you so much
 

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Buy and Sell Mattes UK Facebook group:

Thank you. I’ve measured and pretty sure I need medium. It’s almost borderline small but with shrinkage allowance I think medium will be fine.

I am going to do the same...re the trims (that's my splurge). If the XL is 62cm how much is made up of a fur roll (this is my issue with the le mieux one...the back is on a fur roll)
Might as well 🤷‍♀️😂
What colours are you going for?
 

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Thank you. I’ve measured and pretty sure I need medium. It’s almost borderline small but with shrinkage allowance I think medium will be fine.


Might as well 🤷‍♀️😂
What colours are you going for?
I'm a bit of a traditionalist (dullard) so I will go for black with natural coloured fur as I have black tack...

It took me a long long time to get over having a black saddle after being staunch brown...it was a black saddle that fitted. A coloured numnah will send me over the edge
 

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I'm a bit of a traditionalist (dullard) so I will go for black with natural coloured fur as I have black tack...

It took me a long long time to get over having a black saddle after being staunch brown...it was a black saddle that fitted. A coloured numnah will send me over the edge
I’m thinking fairly similar actually, I quite like colours and have various coloured pages but I sometimes look at one and wonder what I was thinking! So I’m going pretty simple too, hopefully it will be a bit more timeless that way! I thought maybe dark green with black fleece.
I *May have a crazy colour spine that isn’t visible, just for a bit of individuality!
 

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Re the fluff front and back they have replied...

trim is pulled around the edges. So if you decide for a pad with a front and rear trimn, you will need to subtract approx. 10 cm from the overall dimensions.





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Subtract 10? Maybe I’m thinking of that the wrong way around. So my measurement plus 6cm was 48cm
Are they saying i need to make it 38cm, kind of irrelevant as the website won’t let me order! Luckily or it sounds like I’d have got it wrong!
 
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