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I think that this post has not been phrased the right way.

I sort of see what the OP is getting at, however, if I was a professional horse person, working for someone who I have publicly named, I would be ensuring that I represented him & the sport in a good light - not making it seem more elitist than ever.

But then I am just a numpty, what do I know


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I have not publicly named my boss.

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My mistake, I skim read & thought you were on Edward's team.

Even so, I think that if you are fortunate enough to have the talent & the lessons to ride as you do then you should be encouraging, not scorning others who are not as good as you. I do think it is sad because some might find your attitude intimidating & never take up the sport.
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The replies here should be enough to tell you that.

There are many more examples of cruelty (stamford horses!) that need seeing to before a bit of bad riding IMO so I would get down off your high horse
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Why do Happy Hacker, numpty and not capable of schooling thier horse, have to be in the same sentence?
I happily hack my horses these days but am perfectly capable of schooling mine and other horses too and without being a numpty and inflicting pain.
Please don't assume that because someone doesn't want to compete, that they automatically know less than someone that does.
I school my horses out hacking anyway...none of that faffing about going round and round in circles and ovals
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In response to ester, I would have to think about that because I don't attend unaffiliated events of any sort so I can't say that I could have a properly educated opinion on that matter, although I do understand your point. What I mean though is that I can't believe some people are actually allowed to be affiliated, because surely that is where the good riders should be.

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In my experience affiliating is more about money than ability. Before my horse went lame I could probably go and do a BE90 pretty well, and possibly even a BE100 on a good day (he's a bit temperamental!) but I can't afford the money or the time to do it properly so I don't and now I have a horse who will probably never jump again anyway. Plenty of people I know who ride at the same level as me do affiliate and the only difference is that they have the money to do it.

There are some great riders at unafilliated level (not saying I'm great, I know my limits) who just don't have the time, money or inclination to affiliate. We don't all aspire to be the next Mary King, or John Whittaker or Carl Hester. There are plenty of mediocre footballers, runners etc out there but nobody suggests they shouldn't give the marathon a go because it'll take them 5 hours or play for their local team because they'll never make it to Man Utd. As long as the horse is happy, healthy and well cared for, let them get on with it.
 
TT _ I think you are bored!!

Perhaps a better way of doing something about the problem (as you see it) would be to impart some of that fantastic knowledge to others, and also, to lobby the professionals to ride in a more humane and sensitive manner??
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I'm sick of seeing complete amateurs trying to school their horses and doing more harm than good. My boss has had some youngsters at an event this weekend, and when I was watching her fellow competitors in the BE100, I was horrified. Seeing horses getting socked in the mouths as they're being forced into false outlines is just horrific. I think some people are actually inflicting injuries onto their horses just by riding them, especially back injuries. I think that at events the stewards should tell terrible riders to go home. Fair enough everyone has to start somewhere, but that's for pony club and riding schools. I'm all for happy hacking if that's your thing, but don't school or jump unless your actually capable....... or willing to have plenty of lessons with an accredited trainer.

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I sincerely hope that in person you are not as arrogant and patronising as you come across as on here.

 
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Why do Happy Hacker, numpty and not capable of schooling thier horse, have to be in the same sentence?
I happily hack my horses these days but am perfectly capable of schooling mine and other horses too and without being a numpty and inflicting pain.
Please don't assume that because someone doesn't want to compete, that they automatically know less than someone that does.
I school my horses out hacking anyway...none of that faffing about going round and round in circles and ovals
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Baaah - what they said
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Schooling is soooo boring anyway!
 
CallyH I agree but I don't think a lot of people actually have sound knowledge of how to achieve this.
You are very lucky if you are getting lessons on a Grade A showjumper, a lot of people cannot afford or do not have to contacts to even begin to do something like this. Also, it's more about your own horse rather than an amazing horse that you are having lessons on, is it not? Unless you are planning on competing this Grade A.
As I have said, I think that it should be down to officials and volunteers at events to eliminate bad riders. You can only police riding at competitions, it would be impossible to go to every yard in the country and decide who could ride or who couldn't.
But if I got told that I had to improve my riding before I continued eventing, then I'd jolly well get on with it and be a better rider as a result.
Another thing...I'm not insulting happy hackers, I merely used the phrase to point out that there is a place for non-competitive riding. And maybe some of these numpties at events should stick to it.
 
Sorry, but that still sounds like non-competitive riding = bad riding to me. Yet the worst riding I see seems to be from the pros who should know better....
 
I don't see how my age has anything to do with you.
And the question wasn't taken as rude, I just do not wish to divulge any personal information on the net.
I shan't be having any of that facebook or twitter malarchy!!
 
I dont actually follow eventing but it seems to me that the only things I have seen which got enough publicity to attract my attention in the last 12 months were several acts of cruelty/stupidity by professional riders.

And those were ones which resulted in serious injury / death for the horses.
 
To be honest i agree that the post was not phrased right in the 1st place! It was insulting to everyone who rides and learns to ride! Unfortunately at any level you get people that are cruel to their horses and sometimes thats how they believe or have been taught to act with horses! Riding is a constant learning curve and thats what makes it so great - but insulting people won't help!
 
No Im not planning on competing this horse - I am planning on starting competting at local level for fun on a gorgeous very well schooled 17.3.

For me tonight it was a personal achievement and I didnt expect to ride this horse. I dont think it get used much as most people learning to ride would not be able to handle it well.

a horse will not do something it doesnt want to - we all know that and can result in either horse and rider getting hurt. If the horse is happy and the rider is not being cruel wheres the problem?
 
Just so you know there are people out there that can ride and school horses but due to circumstances don't compete, I wouldn't call them numpties. Some riders shouldn't try to school yes due to being a bit too firm but imagine if you weren't firm on some horses? You'd be on the floor.

Personally I prefer to ride quiet and be fair. Not everyone is the same and a machine.. you may just have to live with the fact that not everyone is perfect in this life.
 
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Sorry, but that still sounds like non-competitive riding = bad riding to me. Yet the worst riding I see seems to be from the pros who should know better....


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Why is everyone insulting the pros? I have seen far worse riding at lower levels than from Olympic riders....Is this not a given?
and I didn't equate bad riding with non-competitive riding. I said that competitive riding should equate with good riding, which is a completely different thing.
 
But by that post alone you are saying that numpties are only good enough to be happy hackers . On behalf of the happy hackers on this forum i will say we dont want your numpties the competition world needs them so people like you can reasure themselves how great they are. Happy hackers are an elete group and numpties are not allowed in our world !
 
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I'm all for happy hacking if that's your thing, but don't school or jump unless your actually capable....... or willing to have plenty of lessons with an accredited trainer.

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Hmm your post is contradictory, you can only school or jump if capable, well no one is born capable so surely your post should have read you should only school or jump when having lessons with an accredited trainer until they deem you capable to be let loose on your own!
Never read such codswallop in my life TBH, how are people supposed to start out, how are they supposed to improve, no one is perfect you know. horse riding is a constant learning curve isn't it, please don't knock those that are striving to become better
 
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If the horse is happy and the rider is not being cruel wheres the problem?

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This is not the problem?!?!?!!
My problem is when the horse isn't happy and the rider IS being cruel.
 
No, I'm afraid it isn't a given. As to insulting the pros - why is it ok for you to insult hackers by equating them to numpties (whether you meant to or not - you have!) but not for me to point out that I have seen pros ride terribly?
 
My god you're annoying...and full of shite. PMSL at "there's a place for non competitive riding"...if you are representative of the attitude of those at affiliated events(ie have your head shoved firmly up your backside) then i'm glad i haven't affiliated....yet.
 
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However, in my experience it is the lower level riders that are the most offensive.

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Are they as offensive as you and your posts are??
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May I suggest a couple of things -

1) read a book entitled 'How to win friends and influence people'
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2) get your head out of your ......
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I don't see how my age has anything to do with you.
And the question wasn't taken as rude, I just do not wish to divulge any personal information on the net.
I shan't be having any of that facebook or twitter malarchy!!

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Of course your age isn't anything to do with me, but your posts (particularly your OP) come across as quite arrogant, quite immature and quite inexperienced - something I tend to associate with youngsters who haven't experienced much of life or the world. If you're young or a juvenile, it would be unfair for you to receive slating criticism in replies - I, for one, would feel quite bad about being overly critical of someone just because I wasn't aware they're a kid.

Age isn't any more 'personal' than shoe size or, indeed, what discipline you're into. No-one can track you down or stalk you by your age alone
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Happy hackers are an elete group and numpties are not allowed in our world !

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Damn straight. Numpties + tractors /scary horse-eating plastic bags / Killer Pheasants of Doom / evil white lines painted on the road which are clearly just waiting to kill to death any horse that goes within a mile of them (delete as appropriate) are a bad combination - hence why we SAS-style Hackers prefer numpties to stay safely in the school (that's a joke, before all schooling divas leap on my head and kill me!)
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TBH if you were that disgusted by the way these horses were being cruelly ridden as you put it and you saw this - should you have not done something or tried to re-educate them instead of coming on here and insulting every horse rider???
 
I'm not here to make friends. I'm just here to get numpties to think about the silly things they do sometimes, because I don't enjoy getting irate at events because of rubbish riders.
And yes, I do have my head up my **** because I'm bloody good.
 
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And yes, I do have my head up my **** because I'm bloody good.

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That must make sitting trot very uncomfortable. Do you have a seat-saver?

Also, how can you tell where the letters are in the school - it must be quite dark up there? Have you special super-rider powers of perception?

We numpties are all agog to be told so we can learn from your greatness.
 
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