observation whilst watching olympia

Re saddles, we know that the saddle fits the rider due to the final round at WEG when the saddles are moved around with the riders, presumable regardless of whether the horses involved are very different types.

That did seem a bit :s to me tbh. but then I think that whole final round thing didnt really work.

re looking pretty, its not going to, and that makes me feel better
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Agreeing with 1life and spacefaer. And I also think those of you who are quick to pick fault with them in the ring should go and watch them warm up - they could probably teach you a thing a two about flatwork.

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I agree - the idea that riders that are in a world cup qualifier are unable to ride a proper corner is rediculous. The most supple horse I've ever seen was at one of Tim Stockdale's demos where he could place that horse's neck wherever he wanted without losing straightness! That horse would have done a pretty decent dressage test I think!
 
my leaping enthusiastic show jumper has never done a dressage test in his life (and probably is never going to as he refuses to wear anything other than a dressage illegal grackle) but he can do shoulder in & travers, has canter half pass and a cracking flying change...... and I can definitely ride him into a corner - better than most dressage or event horses
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(and I only hunt him...... don't need flying changes for that!)
 
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Ester I don't get that saddle swapping thing at the WEG either. It got Shutterfly really wound up too as I remember.

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Wasnt that more to do with putting 4 different riders on a horse that really didnt seem suited to that sort of competion?

As for fitting one saddle to different horses, we have limited saddles for our 6, with advice from our saddler we have horses with no back problems who are supple and happy, infact far better that one poor horse who has just had a brand new saddle fitted by a different saddler, this saddle slips off to the right and the horse bucks instead of cantering, saddler says this saddle will slip.....so why sell it to the client, Amazingly by lending the owner one of our grip pads the saddle stays put! I will happily carry on with less saddles thanks.
 
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Agreeing with 1life and spacefaer. And I also think those of you who are quick to pick fault with them in the ring should go and watch them warm up - they could probably teach you a thing a two about flatwork.

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I agree - the idea that riders that are in a world cup qualifier are unable to ride a proper corner is rediculous. The most supple horse I've ever seen was at one of Tim Stockdale's demos where he could place that horse's neck wherever he wanted without losing straightness! That horse would have done a pretty decent dressage test I think!

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yes i have organised oneof Tim Stockdales demos
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I was not saying they couldnt ride, i merely stated the horses had incorrect bends at times. This was not a personalattack to any one rider but a general observation and i clearly stated i donot know much about jumping and were merely interested in why the horses had that way of going.

Seemingly nowadays HHO is a clique and no one can have a small idea of anything or a differing opinion without all these 'experts' coming out of the woodwork!!!!
 
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Just imagine what those horses could do if they had the people from this forum riding them - Britain would be UNBEATABLE

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LMAO
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We could get a whole new team together!

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Ooh, ooh! Pick me, pick me!
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And if you don't pick me I'm taking my saddle away!!
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Sorry I wasn't directing my reply at you specifically and I wouldn't count myself as an expert (although you might not have been directing that at me either lol), but I do feel SJers get pulled apart constantly on this forum and I have no idea why.
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We have some enormous talent in this country and it would be nice to get some positive SJ threads for a change
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It wasnt negative nor positive, it was a supprise as an athlete competing at such a high standard i would have thougth everything would be textbook style, what i meant was that it goes to show that just because you dont bend in the correct manner or have the hind legs working as they are told you should in book, doesnt mean the horse cannot perform. Im a dressage rider and we are always taught about the correctness of the pases, its a different world to me.

SJ'ers get pulled apart on this forum just as much as anyone who dares to own a WB instead of a Cob or people who do parelli
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We have a 15.1 cob and a 16h IDX - both our saddles suprisingly fit both horses and have been checked by our saddler.

I am considering starting to jump in the cobs saddle as it has more support than mine, and we show the cob in my saddle as its more straight cut.
 
I probably notice the SJ ones more as thats where my main interest lies. Although I do dressage too - but I would say I ride my own horse completely differently when I jump to when I dressage! I'm definitely guilty of outside bend too at times when I'm jumping
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I got what your original post was about it just as is often the way the post drifts off in a direction of its own!
 
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Just imagine what those horses could do if they had the people from this forum riding them - Britain would be UNBEATABLE

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LMAO
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We could get a whole new team together!

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Ooh, ooh! Pick me, pick me!
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And if you don't pick me I'm taking my saddle away!!
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I have 8 saddles!
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But one horse is out of work, and the other is broken.
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Just imagine what those horses could do if they had the people from this forum riding them - Britain would be UNBEATABLE

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LMAO
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We could get a whole new team together!

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Ooh, ooh! Pick me, pick me!
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And if you don't pick me I'm taking my saddle away!!
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And if you don't pick me then you won't have the opportunity of also including my three legged horse!
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I probably notice the SJ ones more as thats where my main interest lies. Although I do dressage too - but I would say I ride my own horse completely differently when I jump to when I dressage! I'm definitely guilty of outside bend too at times when I'm jumping
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I got what your original post was about it just as is often the way the post drifts off in a direction of its own!

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indeed as often is the case with some of the egos on HHO.
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mine was an absent minded observation without much thought to it, ho hum, i have pimms
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When you are in competition you do what you have to do even if it might be slightly unorthodox. That is why some people are great in top competition and some aren't. In a small arena like Olympia everything happens very quickly and there isn't time to make many corrections.

Pro riders tend to have a practical attitude towards tack. They can't be too precious about it - as long as it fits reasonably and doesn't do any damage, that's ok. Sheepskin 1/2 pads and riser pads help. Most competition horses, especially eventers, change shape through the season depending on workload, travelling, etc so a purpose made saddle only fits some of the time anyway.
 
Textbook style? - who wrote the text book though? Not the show jumpers
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I think that the fact that top horses jump incredible heights to win Olympic medals in saddles that don't fit just proves that saddles fitting isn't really that important if you can ride properly.
 
DieselDog - which is an intersting point considering the emphasis placed upon a correctly fitted saddle :P

I was amazed at the hights the horses just seemed to 'ping' over :P <--- note the very sophisticated use of terminology there
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Just to add, its not just showjumpers that use the same saddles for different horses. I am pretty sure that lots of eventers out there (don't know about dressagers
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Textbook style? - who wrote the text book though? Not the show jumpers
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I think that the fact that top horses jump incredible heights to win Olympic medals in saddles that don't fit just proves that saddles fitting isn't really that important if you can ride properly.

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*Feels school teachery need to balance this statement by reminding everyone that badly fitting saddles on horses in the everyday rider world cause back, lameness and behavioural problems.*

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