observation whilst watching olympia

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i agree that college / uni students have no clue to working in the "real world" but it does give an insight to more then just the riding! i have worked in all disciplines all of my life so all u say is [****] 2 me!
u shuld no, if u ave worked in da industry as u say, that, things r no as "legit2 as they shuld b!!
the head lad at my yard trains top sj's horses so dont tell me.... i no it from da pro's side hahahaha
wen u ave da decency 2 cum 2 my face n say wot eva it is u ave 2 say,.... cum! until dden.... shut da fuk up n stop bitch ova a forum!

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Lol, someones yanking "ya" chain.

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haha but its blimmin funny tho
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i'm over and out before this degenerates further
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i agree that college / uni students have no clue to working in the "real world" but it does give an insight to more then just the riding! i have worked in all disciplines all of my life so all u say is [****] 2 me!
u shuld no, if u ave worked in da industry as u say, that, things r no as "legit2 as they shuld b!!
the head lad at my yard trains top sj's horses so dont tell me.... i no it from da pro's side hahahaha
wen u ave da decency 2 cum 2 my face n say wot eva it is u ave 2 say,.... cum! until dden.... shut da fuk up n stop bitch ova a forum!

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I'm not entirely sure what you just said
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which is possibly a good thing?
 
Some of this has made me laugh. I think as far as 'text book' goes then you have to remember these horses won't be text book horses and alot of the ones with the most talent are the most quirky and you work along side this to what suits the horse and if bending it's neck to the outside on a tight course coming into a fence works then that is what you do. These guys know more than any of us what works for the quirky/sharp ones.
And as for jumping with their mouths open. My horse does this as he can get strong and gobby and it bugs me rotten but as my trainer is always telling me, this is jumping not dressage, if he wants to jump with his mouth open then so be it as long as he jumps.
 
haha u do make me laugh!! im not trying to do anything.... and not speaking "kids language" im sorry if u all cant understand me..... ill spell everything properly 4 u!
2 b fair, i am speaking my opinion.... i dont care if im "a new user" i have my right 2 speak up as all of u do!
i work in a working yard and in the industry so i, as all of u do, no exactly wot is going on.... if u ave a problem... report me.... but that makes u all so so childish.... i just have a view and u lot dont like it! im not rude, im blunt!
i have agreed to most of the threads which have been stated, so wot makes me in the wrong?
 
if ur horse jumps with its mouth open and does not take the mick and takes hold of the bit and f**s off with u den its fine! if he does take the mick den use a grackle or flash etc which keeps his mouth shut.... but from wot u said, he doesn't so leave him!
 
Ignoring all the pointless tension...


I can see your point. My OH is learning to ride and a lot fo what he has seen on the 'top end' goes against what he is being taught at a very basic level.

But I guess the boil-down-fact I told him was that SJ simply isn't dressage, whatever gets them over the fence clean is necessary, anything else is just probably a pointless schooling exercise (or unuseful anyway).

The ways I have ridden (past tense!) my showjump horses over the horses I have shown is completely different. It didn't need to look good or classical in SJ - I just rode each horse how it suited them.

It doesn't matter if they're not correctly balanced for non-critical turns, as long as they don't fall over and you can get them onto the approach how it suits each horse.

Don't feel bad - I read your post in SB, it was a very valid observation
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haha u do make me laugh!! im not trying to do anything.... and not speaking "kids language" im sorry if u all cant understand me..... ill spell everything properly 4 u!
2 b fair, i am speaking my opinion.... i dont care if im "a new user" i have my right 2 speak up as all of u do!
i work in a working yard and in the industry so i, as all of u do, no exactly wot is going on.... if u ave a problem... report me.... but that makes u all so so childish.... i just have a view and u lot dont like it! im not rude, im blunt!
i have agreed to most of the threads which have been stated, so wot makes me in the wrong?

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Actually it takes alot of effort to write in "txt spk" - well it does for me but middle age is approaching fast.

I take your denial on board, but I applaud you - apart from the threat of violence........ a bit too far.
 
dare is no violence, just pure state lol i cant help the way i write or the way i talk..... im just stating my opinion! i feel every1 has their views and it is good to hear every1s views but doesnt make some of them right nor wrong!!
 
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I also think top-level experience and classroom degree involve a similar sort of person, you can't achieve either by using "dem" to avoid the indignity of typing T and H.

And unfortunately the people you come across in the horse world are not limited by their... intellectual abilities, and do differences will occur.
 
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dare is no violence, just pure state lol i cant help the way i write or the way i talk..... im just stating my opinion! i feel every1 has their views and it is good to hear every1s views but doesnt make some of them right nor wrong!!

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Very true, but there are ways and means of putting your point of view across.

I think with text speak, it's an art form for the younger generation. But you have to bear in mind the old boring fogey contingent who won't have a clue what you are saying.

Swearing is also a sure fire way of having no one listen to you or appreciate your point of view, it'll put up one big brick wall.

Just my opinion, but one I think may be shared by many.
 
Without trying to veer too far from the OP, it is well known that within any part of the horse world there are some people who use dubious methods and are not very "text book" - but when the chips are down, these methods/styles are only shortcuts and the best of the riders in any discipline know that using shortcuts comes back to bite you.

Does anyone remember John Whitaker's dressage test in the 1st Eventing Grand Prix at Hickstead? He rode his canter half passes to perfection - horses which are not schooled properly will not be sufficiently obedient to hand/leg in sharp turns, small arenas, jump offs etc etc.

They have to be good to go forward from the leg and to come back to the hand when required - under pressure, the outline and lateral bend may get a little wayward but the clean jump is THE most important thing
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i am who i am and thats it! i appreciate that by looking it is not all what is thought of... but seriously, dont judge people by what they write... that is very childish in its own form!
i see in the equine industry now a days that if ur "face doesn't fit", or if u "dont speak correctly" you wont b excepted.... that is so not the case! i have my views, as all of you lot do... if u dnt like it, dnt write bak..... im not being rude, like i said im blunt
 
'...but the clean jump is THE most important thing '
Absolutely, otherwise they'd be showknockers not showjumpers, tee-hee. Ooops, ^^^^^^^^^ could that start a whole new Katie Price thread?
 
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wen u ave da decency 2 cum 2 my face n say wot eva it is u ave 2 say,.... cum! until dden.... shut da fuk up n stop bitch ova a forum!

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I'd hate to hear you when you ARE being rude... (sorry, it's taken me this long to translate the chavchat)
 
Snowponia - I also wanted to say that I don't want to come across as though I don't think you are an established or talented rider - but the horse world is full of so much variety other parts can seem wierd and wonderful!
 
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if ur horse jumps with its mouth open and does not take the mick and takes hold of the bit and f**s off with u den its fine! if he does take the mick den use a grackle or flash etc which keeps his mouth shut.... but from wot u said, he doesn't so leave him!

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Ermm, thanks for the advice lol

I was just answering someones question from about 6 pages ago.
 
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Indoor showjumping can be a bit ore haphazard than the summer shows. When they are riding forward over a tight enough course indoors there is little time for steadying and settling between fences - though its kind of contradictory as more balance is required for indoor GPs.

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When a horse can't make the correct shape/strech over the fence i;e tight bends ect ect the saddle will lift off the back end slighty, had this chat with my saddle fitter...
 
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if he does take the mick den use a grackle or flash etc which keeps his mouth shut....

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wonders if you can use this method on gobby girls too..??
 
I was very interested to watch both of Edwina Alexander's horses jump, I am a massive fan of Itot du Chateau and had noticed that he hasn't been on top form recently.

This may have nothing to do with it but if you notice with both the horses she rode, the white saddle pad ruched up and moved backwards under the saddle, virtually folding in half by the time she finished her round. I guaranteee you that if they weren't fixed at the front with the straps, the pad would have slipped out from under the saddle from the rear.

I have had this problem with a close contact saddle that was not fitting well and was too narrow. I initially put it down to a the pads but discovered it was the saddle.

So based on my own experience, Edwina Alexander's saddle did not fit either of her horses - I am such a sad case that I am considering trying to contact her to let her know. Whoever fits her saddles needs a kick up the backside.

Feel free to mock me for my views if you wish
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He's all fine, just gobby..........bit like some others I know...:)

I was just replying to someone who had said they thought alot of the horses were jumping with their mouths open and strong hands etc and I was just trying to say it doesn't matter how they jump, they can do it inside out if they like as long as they get over the jump. With jumping it's not all about how you look.

.....but then someone else jumped aboard......
 
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