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I have a fabulous 16.3 tb who is lovely in many ways and I hope to do (for "do" read "make someone else do") afflicted sj on soon. The only problem is- he jumps like a complete clown. It generally feels nice enough (particularly over xc fences) but when you watch it in slow motion he looks like a retarded camel.

I am so embarrassed and may have to either sell him for 50p or turn him loose on the chilterns. I have taken some good and not so good stills from the recent video of him jumping, judge for yourselves!

Good;

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Weird

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Bizarre

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I just don't know what to do *sobs into mostly empty vat of Ben and Jerrys*
 
Not 'oh dear' STUNNING!
Your beastie has a fab jump and I will give you 50p for him!
Are you able to have lessons with a good SJ for that fab bascule? You will go far.
Bryndu:)
 
He is demonstrating his right to be an individual doncha know?!

Lol at the last two pics, but hey.. he can jump. Maybe style will come with time.













Or not.
 
They made me laugh but I think you've just picked bad moments. Over all he doesn't look that bad to me!

You're a mean mother letting all on HHO laugh at the poor old duck. Oops. Poor old camel.

He's lovely btw
 
Aw, thanks folks! Bryndu- I'll take that 50p if you throw in some extra icecream as I am running low....

He can jump higher, he's an ex point to pointer although at the age of 12 you would have thought he'd have learnt not to lead with his head! Unless he's still trying to win by a nose... The top pics are the good ones I picked, most of the others he's sticking his head over first and trying to drag his front legs under his belly and then kicking up his hinds as high as they will go, bless he didn't hit much though ;)
 
Hm.

I'll raise the 50p to £1, and two tubs of Ben and Jerrys :D

Given my jumping style, or lack of it, he and I will do nicely together :D :D :D


Failing that, pole work? Grid work? Or is this the end result after all of that?
 
Santalover said:
Aw, thanks folks! Bryndu- I'll take that 50p if you throw in some extra icecream as I am running low....

He can jump higher, he's an ex point to pointer although at the age of 12 you would have thought he'd have learnt not to lead with his head! Unless he's still trying to win by a nose... The top pics are the good ones I picked, most of the others he's sticking his head over first and trying to drag his front legs under his belly and then kicking up his hinds as high as they will go, bless he didn't hit much though ;)
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Chocolate ice cream on the way!!! Horse transporter will be with you by 3pm !!!!!:)
Bryndu
 
marinitagsd said:
I wouldn't worry too much, he defo looks like he can jump alot higher! My 5yr old is the same, here's a couple of pics. Oh and by the way, think you would get far more than 50p! ha ha Lovely boy x
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Mits off...50p was accepted with ice cream thrown in for luck !!!:)
Bryndu
 
Hahahahahahaha!

Bless him - scope certainly not a problem, but its a very good job that BSJA is not judged on style or I think both he and rider would be escorted from the ring :D
 
If he is an ex pointer he would find it hard to jump in a showjump type 'style'. How long have you had him?
My boy was a point to pointer and he must have jumped at least 4 ft hurdles on the track but he found upright show jumps very hard. Before he passed away, we were jumping 3'3ft which is a new one for me too but that took a long time and a lot of hard work to get to, and he would often knock the top pole as he found it hard to tuck up his front legs. They try to jump them like hurdles - it looks like your boy is doing this in those pictures, with his nose stretched out and slightly ungainly front legs because they don't really understand. You have to retrain totally for show jumps but he looks like he has a lot of scope. Does he find spreads easier? P used to much prefer spreads - I don't know whether it was the way the looked but he would take off earlier and jump more comfortably. I don't know how long you have had him so don't want to be patronising or anything but perhaps some pole work etc?

letrec_fan
 
He actually looks lovely, like a real try-er! To be honest he has a lovely rounded back and he's reaching with his head and neck which is good. I'd say he'd sort himself out a bit jumping higher. You could always set up gymnastics so he'd have to pick up his legs insead of letting them hang loose. If you don't want to do it, I'm sure there are some velcro-butt kids at your yard willing to pop over a few. I had an ex-steeplechase a few years ago. He rounded up nicely but his front end was atrocious. After loads of gymnastics, he tightened them right up! Also, if you want to do SJ with him, it doesn't matter what he looks like as long as he can do the course fast and clean. I've seen some ugly, and I mean UGLY SJ rounds but they were clean and that's all that matters really! :)
 
Santalover said:
He can jump higher, he's an ex point to pointer although at the age of 12 you would have thought he'd have learnt not to lead with his head! Unless he's still trying to win by a nose...
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Aha! this is the problem then!! Even though he is 12 and has jumped fences, he is GREEN! He probably has no idea what these 'pole things' are and doesnt have a clue how to jump from such a 'slow speed'! Put him at a chase fence at gallop speed and im sure he'd be a pro! You need to treat him as a baby and teach him how to jump. It is very different jumping poles than fences, im useless in an arena but will be much happier sending horse to a fence at flat out gallop and look seriously stylish! Go back to basics and he'll soon cotton on what to do with his body. We've had plenty weve hd to retrain to get them right!

Dont worry, its totally fixable!:D
 
Yes indeed pole work is the way forward, we have done quite a bit of work to make him jump doubles with a stride in between rather than as a bounce (with crashing through the second part!). ACTUAL bounces are next on the list, I just hope that the velcro trousers arrive in time....

When I say he's an ex pointer, I mean aaages ex- he retired at least 2 1/2 years ago and has done dressarge since with his old owner and various RC cross country, local shows (including a hotly contested bending race) and lots of sponsored rides since I've had him. Show jumping is not my thing so I have bribed and threatened other people to do it!

I could def do with some exercises to get him to snap up in front although having seen Irish ptp courses I am at a loss to understand why he thinks he doesn't need to lift them when he jumps- scary stuff...

Anyway, the best offer so far is £1 and some ice cream so I'm happy :)
 
Santalover said:
When I say he's an ex pointer, I mean aaages ex- he retired at least 2 1/2 years ago and has done dressarge since with his old owner and various RC cross country, local shows (including a hotly contested bending race) and lots of sponsored rides since I've had him. Show jumping is not my thing so I have bribed and threatened other people to do it!

I could def do with some exercises to get him to snap up in front although having seen Irish ptp courses I am at a loss to understand why he thinks he doesn't need to lift them when he jumps- scary stuff...
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It would appear that the habit stays with them - my boy was 2 1/2 odd years off the track and still did all of this.

In answer to the last part - hurdles are jumped long and low. (best way I can put it) If you watch them going over they often brush through the top of the fences anyway. They stretch out and over them - they don't tuck them up half as much as a show jumper would.
 
It ain't how you jump it is whether you get over, he looks to me like he could go a lot higher as well. I like him and would let him get on with it. If you try to change it you may lose his sense of enjoyment in jumping.
FDC
 
have to agree with Santa and Row, he looks bold as brass but a bit clueless.

Yes, no worries. I'll send you a paypal for 50p. I'll even pick him up.

*tee hee* *mug!*
 
letrec_fan said:
It would appear that the habit stays with them - my boy was 2 1/2 odd years off the track and still did all of this.

In answer to the last part - hurdles are jumped long and low. (best way I can put it) If you watch them going over they often brush through the top of the fences anyway. They stretch out and over them - they don't tuck them up half as much as a show jumper would.
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Agreed, although he never hurdled only steeplechased and ptp and you wouldn't fancy brushing through many of those I wouldn't think :eek:

He is a good boy bless 'im and as everyone says it doesn't matter what you look like as long as you get over them but jeebus, shamefull or what! He's such a stunner on the flat and xc looks just super but as soon as the poles are up he turns back into the demented llama. :rolleyes: I'll send pics of him doing the fallsbury (sp?) flop over some 5' fences asap! ;)
 
He's an ex p2p horse, granted a long time ago, but by the sound of it, never re-educated, therefore he is only knows one way of getting over a fence and that is to hurdle it, if jumping is something you want to explore more, then get some jumping lessons with some well constructed grid work to help educate him, the more the better. If it's just something you want to just play at then let him get over it how he wants as long as you're having fun, as others have said he look like he's got some scope in him, and if all else fails jumping is all down to whether you keep a fence up! But if you want to improve on his style it is just a matter of re-education.
 
I will offer five of my amazing sterling pounds, and I will hand bake you a Blackforrest gateau and any truffles of your choice.

I think you will find this offer pleasing.
 
Steeplechased, and PTP....no wonder he does that giraffe thing! VERY clever boy, he is going forwards with every inch of him, to be the fastest OVER not the most lovely shape. He knows how to clear 'em certainly, and I wouldn't put Puissance past him.

I'd get him to do bounces too, and work on canter collection :-) Lovely lad.

I will offer £11.50, and two of Sainsburys finest doughnuts.
 
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