Oliver Skeet backs the Hope Not Bus
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BBH
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Great campaign but hadn't realised he was a ' champion horseman'
Santa_Claus
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"champion showjumper"
not sure we could ever call him that!!
dieseldog
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He used to jump Newcomer classes BSJA
Kal
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''Champion Horsemen'' is going a bit too far isn't it. He use to compete at West Wilts a lot against my sister in foxhunters, etc. and i don't think he beat my sister once.
He also slated the british showjumping team because they wouldn't consider him for the olympics (the fact that he had only been jumping foxhunter height didn't occur to him) so he said that he would jump for barbados instead, but that didn't happen.
Now i know it's a good achivement if your the first at something in any sport and thats great but what gets me is that he was bulled up as some kind of legend when he was at the same level as all of us.
He also slated the british showjumping team because they wouldn't consider him for the olympics (the fact that he had only been jumping foxhunter height didn't occur to him) so he said that he would jump for barbados instead, but that didn't happen.
Now i know it's a good achivement if your the first at something in any sport and thats great but what gets me is that he was bulled up as some kind of legend when he was at the same level as all of us.
bahumbug
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That's the curse of the tabloids again..... oh dear!
kerilli
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oh dear, I competed against him at Newcomers level and he didn't look safe or competent doing that! He was on a lovely schoolmistress and she had the patience of a saint with him. All that mouthyness about getting on the British Team for the next Olympics... even if he'd had a horse as good as Shutterfly, he wouldn't!
Well, I suppose it's for a good cause now, but he really wasn't ever much cop as a rider, I cannot understand how he still gets a bit of fame!
Well, I suppose it's for a good cause now, but he really wasn't ever much cop as a rider, I cannot understand how he still gets a bit of fame!
Puppy
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Is a DM article of absolute drivel really worth posting under the pretense of news........
RLF
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Well at least he's putting his 'fame' to good use.
Wasrandyra
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He was at one of our local Bsja centres once. Umm champion he was not
EstherSupporter
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Dear Puppy......if you see this as drivel then why did you participate in reading it?
And even bother to make a post.
Just out of curiosity, does racism bother you?
SJFAN
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He was not a champion (or even competent) rider, but he could be considered a champion self-publicist. Even had his autobiography published!
katelarge
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Give him a break - this is just a paper talking to a very non-horsey audience who need a handy label for him. And "Champion horseman" is a lot snappier than "guy who showjumps to quite a respectable level". Remember, the article has to establish his credibility immediately with a totally non-equine reader who would probably regard most people jumping over 1m10 as champions!
A very good cause, I think.
A very good cause, I think.
SJFAN
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Of course it's a good cause, so full marks to him for that. But the fact remains that he had no success jumping at even "quite respectable level". The tabloids and some TV programmes played the game when for a short while in the 1990s he became "a personality" and if by any chance he made it seem possible for non-white kids to take up riding than it served some purpose.
CorvusCorax
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Good point well made, Caismum!
ES, just because Puppy doesn't like the DM, doesn't mean she is racist!
ES, just because Puppy doesn't like the DM, doesn't mean she is racist!
joe_carby
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i dont agree with the campaign and agree with puppy and i have family who are coloured /black how ever you want to put it to be PC
lilylotus
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I did wonder what had happened to him. He appeared, then disappeared as quickly.
miss_bird
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Would you give the man a break, so he was not very good at show jumping but he had his 5 minutes of fame, and he is now putting it to back a very good cause.
Who cares what the headline says about him, it got to the front page of a newspaper and highlighted the main reason behind it.
Can somepeople not look beyond a headline and see what good there is hidden in there as well.
Who cares what the headline says about him, it got to the front page of a newspaper and highlighted the main reason behind it.
Can somepeople not look beyond a headline and see what good there is hidden in there as well.
ronansmum
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What's wrong with the campaign?
I am sure most of us would hate the BNP to do well...and if you have coloured family even more so...
I remember Oliver Skeet, he was ok, he didn't do anyone any harm that I remember, too many riders are downright snobby and catty...we can't all be good and we can't all afford brilliant horses, if he sold the family car to give himself a chance, good luck to him!!
I am sure most of us would hate the BNP to do well...and if you have coloured family even more so...
I remember Oliver Skeet, he was ok, he didn't do anyone any harm that I remember, too many riders are downright snobby and catty...we can't all be good and we can't all afford brilliant horses, if he sold the family car to give himself a chance, good luck to him!!
Onyxia
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What's wrong with the campaign?
I am sure most of us would hate the BNP to do well...and if you have coloured family even more so...
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Baaaa...
Another article from that paper
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/19/face-of-hate-115875-21370856/
Do any of us want a "party" that endorses this sort of behaviour getting so much as a sniff of power?
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I remember Oliver Skeet, he was ok, he didn't do anyone any harm that I remember, too many riders are downright snobby and catty...we can't all be good and we can't all afford brilliant horses, if he sold the family car to give himself a chance, good luck to him!!
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Thats pretty much how I would sum him up too.
Point is,it doesnt matter how much he did or diddnt win-he is a "name" and is putting that name to good use.
If any rider(with the exception Zara Phillips) put their name to this would it have made the press?
What's wrong with the campaign?
I am sure most of us would hate the BNP to do well...and if you have coloured family even more so...
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Baaaa...
Another article from that paper
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/19/face-of-hate-115875-21370856/
Do any of us want a "party" that endorses this sort of behaviour getting so much as a sniff of power?
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I remember Oliver Skeet, he was ok, he didn't do anyone any harm that I remember, too many riders are downright snobby and catty...we can't all be good and we can't all afford brilliant horses, if he sold the family car to give himself a chance, good luck to him!!
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Thats pretty much how I would sum him up too.
Point is,it doesnt matter how much he did or diddnt win-he is a "name" and is putting that name to good use.
If any rider(with the exception Zara Phillips) put their name to this would it have made the press?
SJFAN
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I don't think he can be called "a name" these days, but perhaps he has featured in the tabloids more recently than I'm aware of.
jennystreek
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imo, he's a guy who wants fame and probably still has an agent that is trying to get him into the spotlight..
He probably does feel strongly about the campaign, and that's great, but to be honest, it could have been an article about anything..
I cant believe that people still refer to him as a show jumper!! Thought he would've been forgotten by now...
He probably does feel strongly about the campaign, and that's great, but to be honest, it could have been an article about anything..
I cant believe that people still refer to him as a show jumper!! Thought he would've been forgotten by now...
alwaysbroke
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QR Ok Oliver may not have been a champion rider, but hopefully he is doing some good now.
My OH is yes, I will say it a big black guy who rides for a living and has done all his working life. He has found it difficult "being different" many people are astounded that a black man rides for a living.
My OH is yes, I will say it a big black guy who rides for a living and has done all his working life. He has found it difficult "being different" many people are astounded that a black man rides for a living.
RLF
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LOL at some of the comments on here.
He wasn't the best rider in the world but neither is Katy Price and people don't seem to mind her using her 'fame' to sell her equestrian range.
At least Oliver his using his 'fame' to support a worthy cause and not for his own financial gain. Good on him.
Oh and one more point he's Black not coloured.
He wasn't the best rider in the world but neither is Katy Price and people don't seem to mind her using her 'fame' to sell her equestrian range.
At least Oliver his using his 'fame' to support a worthy cause and not for his own financial gain. Good on him.
Oh and one more point he's Black not coloured.
Ladyfresha1
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There are a lot of people on here bothered by Katie Price - it has just been done to death!
nic85
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Haha! I remember him in Horse&Pony magazine, we are talking a fair few years back now, I always used to wonder how he manged to get his dreadlocks under his hat!
And for what its worth,who cares about his ridng ability, he was always smiling.....proabbly still is!
And for what its worth,who cares about his ridng ability, he was always smiling.....proabbly still is!
Robyn0288
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LOL at some of the comments on here.
He wasn't the best rider in the world but neither is Katy Price and people don't seem to mind her using her 'fame' to sell her equestrian range.
At least Oliver his using his 'fame' to support a worthy cause and not for his own financial gain. Good on him.
Oh and one more point he's Black not coloured.
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agree 100%!
LOL at some of the comments on here.
He wasn't the best rider in the world but neither is Katy Price and people don't seem to mind her using her 'fame' to sell her equestrian range.
At least Oliver his using his 'fame' to support a worthy cause and not for his own financial gain. Good on him.
Oh and one more point he's Black not coloured.
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agree 100%!
Puppy
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Dear Puppy......if you see this as drivel then why did you participate in reading it?
And even bother to make a post.
Just out of curiosity, does racism bother you?
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Well, although I have great confidence that any DM article IS very likely to be drivel,
Obviously, I have to read/scan it to be in a position to objectively call it drivel.
Do I have a problem with racism? As in do I object to it?! Yes, yes I do. And partly hence my continuing objection to the DM
Dear Puppy......if you see this as drivel then why did you participate in reading it?
And even bother to make a post.
Just out of curiosity, does racism bother you?
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Well, although I have great confidence that any DM article IS very likely to be drivel,
Do I have a problem with racism? As in do I object to it?! Yes, yes I do. And partly hence my continuing objection to the DM