Olympic horse owners neglected horses taken away

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OMG i have just seen the the footage of the horses found at John Byrialsen studs. Its on h&h home page. He's happy to lap up all the accolade of Calecto V at the olympics, but those poor horses he obviously deems undesirable for whatever reason and has forgotten they exist. That poor little soul who couldn't even lift his head off the floor, just whinnied. I honestly thought he was dead until i saw him blink. Why the f00k do people do this sort of thing. Its not like he's skint and can't afford a bale of bl00dy hay!!! :mad:
 
There is no excuse for this. I doubt there will be any real penalty for allowing them to get into this state and, therefore, no deterrent from doing it again.
I know I am probably going to wind someone up, but in my view, sending them off to the abattoir if they were unwanted would have been a better option for these poor horses than the prolonged suffering they have obviously endured.
 
From what I've read, there were/are 300 horses in Poland. These horses were supposed to be cared for by employees of Byrielsen. Just recently, the authorities allowed people to come and take whichever horses they fancied. What a nightmare for those animals! Many will go from being emaciated to dying of colic from being overfed by well-meaning, but unknowledgeable, people. If the horses are being removed from their squalid circumstances so soon after they were discovered, it would seem to me that no charges are being lodged against the owner/carers. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Actually, the prosecution service in Poland has issued charges, but the rest of your post is correct, well meaning volunteers were taking the horses home :eek:
There were around 300 horses and 3 or 4 employees to ''look after'' them, the monthly keep allowance budgeted by mr B per horse was about 1/2 of what it actually costs to keep a horse (even buying in bulk) fed, not to mention their vet care, farrier etc.
 
OMG! Awful. My mare is by Calecto V’s sire Comeback II and was imported from Denmark. Sickening to think she could of been one of these poor things.
 
I just watched that and it made me feel physically sick. Have seen it plenty in person through work I've done, but this extent, on this scale is horrific and the owner and workers should be shot. Human rights my backside...people who can do this to any other animal do not deserve life. It is a precious gift being wasted on these sick b'stards!
 
martlin said:
It will be sort of tricky to do that, because a) the bloke has form and b) his Danish stud has been searched and evidence of neglect has been found there, too.
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do so hope you are right but this sort of wealthy slime ball with connections can usually get away with blaming it all on someone else.
 
This made me think of the often asked question, "if an Olympic level horse is one in a million, what happens to the other 999,999?"

Well, here is the answer for some of them!

I am so so mad about this.
 
eahotson said:
do so hope you are right but this sort of wealthy slime ball with connections can usually get away with blaming it all on someone else.
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I think it went waay too public for him to slime out of it now, but you are right, as far as I know, the complaints about his activities in Posadowo have been coming in for a very long time now, but the horse people and local breeders that were raising them have never been taken seriously, and quite often accused of dirty smear campaigns :o
 
I'm going to say something controversial now, I think.
As a stock farmer, I accept that there is ''waste'', animals that don't make the grade etc, what I have a problem with is not disposing of said animals, but letting them starve to death instead. And before anybody asks, but disposing, I mean euthanasia.
 
martlin said:
I'm going to say something controversial now, I think.
As a stock farmer, I accept that there is ''waste'', animals that don't make the grade etc, what I have a problem with is not disposing of said animals, but letting them starve to death instead. And before anybody asks, but disposing, I mean euthanasia.
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Completely agree with this ^^^^ Why does this kind of neglect happen so much with "pet", i.e. non-food, animals? It does happen with farm animals too, but not as prevalent I think because of the economic aspect, and farmers are businessmen. The same exact story with Lipizzaner breeding farm in I think Romania a while ago, same awful footage of dead and dying starving horses.
 
Cortez said:
Completely agree with this ^^^^ Why does this kind of neglect happen so much with "pet", i.e. non-food, animals? It does happen with farm animals too, but not as prevalent I think because of the economic aspect, and farmers are businessmen. The same exact story with Lipizzaner breeding farm in I think Romania a while ago, same awful footage of dead and dying starving horses.
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I suppose it is to do with public pressure, to an extent, it is sort of frowned upon to cull horses young only because they are not good enough... But then again, it's not economical to keep them either. I am not justifying what happened here, I am as disgusted as the next person.
 
martlin said:
I'm going to say something controversial now, I think.
As a stock farmer, I accept that there is ''waste'', animals that don't make the grade etc, what I have a problem with is not disposing of said animals, but letting them starve to death instead. And before anybody asks, but disposing, I mean euthanasia.
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Not controversial at all IMO. In fact, a very pragmatic view of it and one that I would like to see encouraged.
 
martlin said:
I'm going to say something controversial now, I think.
As a stock farmer, I accept that there is ''waste'', animals that don't make the grade etc, what I have a problem with is not disposing of said animals, but letting them starve to death instead. And before anybody asks, but disposing, I mean euthanasia.
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Most sensibe people would agree with that statement and if there was a viable market for horse meat and people in partcular would buy and eat it these horses may have some value and so be (hopefully) humanely destroyed.
 
eahotson said:
Most sensibe people would agree with that statement and if there was a viable market for horse meat and people in partcular would buy and eat it these horses may have some value and so be (hopefully) humanely destroyed.
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Bizarrely, in this case, there actually is a market for horse meat in Poland, it is fairly limited, but nonetheless, it does exist.
 
Not enough to blame the minions. The guy at the top should have the ultimate responsibility imo. I saw this video the other day and it made me cry. The look in those horses eyes is haunting me. What I don't understand is the assumption that these are horses that somehow have not made the grade. Is that so? If, as it has been suggested that this was a stud to produce performance horses, I assume they weren't just breeding from anything. How soon to know if a horse won't make the grade (aside from injury), certainly not before it has been backed and schooled surely? This is neglect and cruelty and I hope the person/s responsible are made accountable.

I wouldn't be eating them in that condition either - not that they have much meat on them.
 
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Breeding is lottery at best of times, we give ourselves the best possible chance of success by breeding from suitable animals, but genetics is a funny old thing, and sometimes, you do end up with a very well bred bag of nails. In the photos, there were plenty emaciated animals with rather poor conformation, but also quite a few horses in reasonable condition and of better quality.
 
But when farmers euthanise young animals that will have no economic value, people cry out that it's cruel because the poor animals are so young. Our world is insane.
 
I think that it wasn't even the "substandard" animals left to starve on that Polish farm; it was all of them. I think it was just pure overproduction for the sake of it; too many horses, no oversight or even a reason to produce them, and then everyone just "forgot" about them and the owner never bothered to check. Madness, outright neglect and cruel beyond belief.
 
Cortez said:
I think that it wasn't even the "substandard" animals left to starve on that Polish farm; it was all of them. I think it was just pure overproduction for the sake of it; too many horses, no oversight or even a reason to produce them, and then everyone just "forgot" about them and the owner never bothered to check. Madness, outright neglect and cruel beyond belief.
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Completely agree with the above. The existence those horses have had is tragic.
 
Cortez said:
I think that it wasn't even the "substandard" animals left to starve on that Polish farm; it was all of them. I think it was just pure overproduction for the sake of it; too many horses, no oversight or even a reason to produce them, and then everyone just "forgot" about them and the owner never bothered to check. Madness, outright neglect and cruel beyond belief.
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Possibly, although the footage suggested that there are animals in good condition at the stud. Whichever way it is, it's absolutely atrocious way of treating any living being.
 
martlin said:
I'm going to say something controversial now, I think.
As a stock farmer, I accept that there is ''waste'', animals that don't make the grade etc, what I have a problem with is not disposing of said animals, but letting them starve to death instead. And before anybody asks, but disposing, I mean euthanasia.
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Nope, not controversial at all imo just sensible.

And what I really don't understand is this; ok, so most of those horses aren't going to be stars, but plenty of them probably could be sold to competent owners lower down the echelons of the horse world. But not if they're half starved as yearlings and grow up shonky. It doesn't really even make business sense. Cull the real dross, look after the rest and you've got more money in the kitty surely?!
 
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