piebaldsparkle
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They can go to the knackerman, but can't then go into the human food chain.
OMG peoples worst fears
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SirenaXVI
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God, how sad, poor poor old lady.
now_loves_mares
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this is why i take them myself and INSIST on seeing it done, however upsetting.
btw, i know someone whose OH used to work in hunt service, and would send owners away and then take sometimes take the horse to the sales for profit... the message is, don't believe your horse or pony is safely gone unless you have seen him or her hit the deck. seriously.
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OMG. That makes me feel sick. When I had my old event horse PTS, there was not a chance on this earth he'd have been on his own. We were best friends, and I wanted to be the last person he saw. If I could have held him in my arms, I would have
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this is why i take them myself and INSIST on seeing it done, however upsetting.
btw, i know someone whose OH used to work in hunt service, and would send owners away and then take sometimes take the horse to the sales for profit... the message is, don't believe your horse or pony is safely gone unless you have seen him or her hit the deck. seriously.
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OMG. That makes me feel sick. When I had my old event horse PTS, there was not a chance on this earth he'd have been on his own. We were best friends, and I wanted to be the last person he saw. If I could have held him in my arms, I would have
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SonnysHumanSlave
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oh right wasnt sure, either way i think id rather be there when i say bye. id want it done at home rather then a last journey to where ever alone.
lastchancer
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And why is a cancerous horse en route for food anyway?
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Good point and probably why they sent it to us sentimental brits to rescue
There's a very big difference between sentiment and compassion - as this story illustrates.
And why is a cancerous horse en route for food anyway?
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Good point and probably why they sent it to us sentimental brits to rescue
There's a very big difference between sentiment and compassion - as this story illustrates.
ucmeicu
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Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
Rebels
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Someone near to me (hunt masters wife) bought a horse from another hunt to be a masters horse . It was taken out as a second horse and bolted when the master tried to mount. Nothing could have stopped it and master was very lucky to be ok. It was also terrified of whips. After further digging it was found to have been through several hunt stables and had been 'rescued' from the abbatoir by a dealer. It had been sent their by its previous owner as it was so dangerous and thousands of pounds of scans had not revealed a physical issue so was therefore to be destroyed. She was understandably devestated when contacted and also the masters wife had paid around £3000 but was not the legal owner of the horse. She has since had huge success treating it with faith healing (!) and a chiro making it a lovely horse now. The previous owner very fairly signed the horse over to them so they own it. Makes you think though.
piebaldsparkle
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That's rather odd seeing as it was being PTS on vets advice in the 1st place.
wysiwyg
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Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
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shame that the person who has posession ATM and is spending money on this horse will have to hand it back to its legal owner.
she may well also be in trouble for handling stolen goods.
So i wouldnt be too smug yet.
Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
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shame that the person who has posession ATM and is spending money on this horse will have to hand it back to its legal owner.
she may well also be in trouble for handling stolen goods.
So i wouldnt be too smug yet.
ucmeicu
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Smug? Letting people know what has happened today with this horse is being smug?. You will be happy to know both people who the ownership dispute is between are happy the horse is where it is and what is being done for her.
Changes
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Smug? Letting people know what has happened today with this horse is being smug?. You will be happy to know both people who the ownership dispute is between are happy the horse is where it is and what is being done for her.
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Oh dear .... you just believe every line spun you..... the REAL owner is extremely unhappy. Your 'friend' buying what has turned out to be a stolen horse, isn't quite the paragon of virtue you cannot afford her not to be...........
Smug? Letting people know what has happened today with this horse is being smug?. You will be happy to know both people who the ownership dispute is between are happy the horse is where it is and what is being done for her.
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Oh dear .... you just believe every line spun you..... the REAL owner is extremely unhappy. Your 'friend' buying what has turned out to be a stolen horse, isn't quite the paragon of virtue you cannot afford her not to be...........
wysiwyg
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Yes, smug.
Because that is how you have come across in your reply.
Because that is how you have come across in your reply.
ucmeicu
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The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
wysiwyg
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The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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link?
The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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link?
Changes
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Funny, because I've been in touch with her all day............ but then uglyme, you've never been reknowned for veracity.
Battyoldbint
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The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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but this post is about trust or lack of in a nacker man, why do you have to once again make it about you,,,oh i nearly forgot your saint teza once again lmao
The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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but this post is about trust or lack of in a nacker man, why do you have to once again make it about you,,,oh i nearly forgot your saint teza once again lmao
Serenity087
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FFS. Someone hand me a rifle, problem solved.
It's a horse, FFS. It was destined for steak and chips, just like every cow, pig, sheep, chicken, goose, rabbit, pheasant, deer, boar or fish raised in this country for our culinary pleasures.
She's been 'rescued' (from what, however, I'm not so sure!), found to be wanting, and is now being forced to suffer whilst people squabble over it's fate.
Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
It's a horse, FFS. It was destined for steak and chips, just like every cow, pig, sheep, chicken, goose, rabbit, pheasant, deer, boar or fish raised in this country for our culinary pleasures.
She's been 'rescued' (from what, however, I'm not so sure!), found to be wanting, and is now being forced to suffer whilst people squabble over it's fate.
Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
Changes
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Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
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You're right. I wish you could tell the sicko who has it that....
Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
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You're right. I wish you could tell the sicko who has it that....
piebaldsparkle
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I'm just disgusted that someone would put a horses welfare below their chance to point score and boost their ego.
The Virgin Dubble
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FFS. Someone hand me a rifle, problem solved.
It's a horse, FFS. It was destined for steak and chips, just like every cow, pig, sheep, chicken, goose, rabbit, pheasant, deer, boar or fish raised in this country for our culinary pleasures.
She's been 'rescued' (from what, however, I'm not so sure!), found to be wanting, and is now being forced to suffer whilst people squabble over it's fate.
Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
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You're missing the point.
If it was really so easy, we would all be doing as you suggest, but sadly we have to abide by the law, and that is why iNAGS exists - to educate and inform the public about what is going on, and to work towards getting the law changed, so as to prevent scenario's like this.
The horse was en route to slaughter, for good reason, until it became a victim of the trade in equine misery, whereby well meaning people have their heartstrings pulled by emotive wording.
How can anybody feel good about themselves, or justify, prolonging the suffering of horses that are going for slaughter for valid reasons?
Admin, can you PLEASE look into this case? Some of us followed this story as it happened, when the horse was originally up for rescue, and I think I speak for all of us when I say we are absolutely heartbroken by what has happened.
FFS. Someone hand me a rifle, problem solved.
It's a horse, FFS. It was destined for steak and chips, just like every cow, pig, sheep, chicken, goose, rabbit, pheasant, deer, boar or fish raised in this country for our culinary pleasures.
She's been 'rescued' (from what, however, I'm not so sure!), found to be wanting, and is now being forced to suffer whilst people squabble over it's fate.
Just blinking well shoot it. I shall buy the bullet myself, if it helps.
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You're missing the point.
If it was really so easy, we would all be doing as you suggest, but sadly we have to abide by the law, and that is why iNAGS exists - to educate and inform the public about what is going on, and to work towards getting the law changed, so as to prevent scenario's like this.
The horse was en route to slaughter, for good reason, until it became a victim of the trade in equine misery, whereby well meaning people have their heartstrings pulled by emotive wording.
How can anybody feel good about themselves, or justify, prolonging the suffering of horses that are going for slaughter for valid reasons?
Admin, can you PLEASE look into this case? Some of us followed this story as it happened, when the horse was originally up for rescue, and I think I speak for all of us when I say we are absolutely heartbroken by what has happened.
FinnishLapphund
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Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
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So with other words, you believe that the vet who first recommended it to be destroyed was wrong and the vet who visited today is right? And why should that be more likely, than that it is the other way around, the first vet was right and the vet who visited today is wrong?
Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
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So with other words, you believe that the vet who first recommended it to be destroyed was wrong and the vet who visited today is right? And why should that be more likely, than that it is the other way around, the first vet was right and the vet who visited today is wrong?
xebec
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The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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Would that be the person who accepted only £100 for this horse because its treatment costs were ramping up perchance?
Money and horse exchanged hands - seems fairly clear cut to me who the 'real' owner is - and it's not the person who took the £100, nor the person who has it now.
The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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Would that be the person who accepted only £100 for this horse because its treatment costs were ramping up perchance?
Money and horse exchanged hands - seems fairly clear cut to me who the 'real' owner is - and it's not the person who took the £100, nor the person who has it now.
M_G
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Just to add, the WHW visited this horse today and are more than happy with the vet who attended today, his diagnosis and how her treatment is being dealt with.
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Did they not also visit the Stamford horses? they take advice from vets and its easy to find a vet who will say what you want them to say if you know where to look
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Did they not also visit the Stamford horses? they take advice from vets and its easy to find a vet who will say what you want them to say if you know where to look
AmyMay
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The real concern here has to be the fact that the owner of this horse used a recommended operator to take the horse away and put it down - only to find it had been sold on.
Vets will disagree about treatments for some ailments - but clearly this mares days are numbered. However, if she is under veterinary treatment then the WHW will be satisfied.
It's always the most difficult decision to put our horses down, and the owner must be devastated to be in the position of having made that heart renching decision - to find out now that what she had paid for has not happened. Her decisions waere made on veterinary advice, and she must be beside herself to think that the horse's suffering continues.
It is very, very sad for all involved - and there will be no happy outcome. At this point, however, all we can hope is that the mare's pain is managed appropriately until such time as a resolution is reached.
Vets will disagree about treatments for some ailments - but clearly this mares days are numbered. However, if she is under veterinary treatment then the WHW will be satisfied.
It's always the most difficult decision to put our horses down, and the owner must be devastated to be in the position of having made that heart renching decision - to find out now that what she had paid for has not happened. Her decisions waere made on veterinary advice, and she must be beside herself to think that the horse's suffering continues.
It is very, very sad for all involved - and there will be no happy outcome. At this point, however, all we can hope is that the mare's pain is managed appropriately until such time as a resolution is reached.
SirenaXVI
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The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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The REAL owner paid out 1000s in vets fees before she, on vets advice, paid £450 to have the horse taken away and pts, SHE is devastated by the turn of events. The person who accepted £100 in payment for this mare is NOT the owner, however, she has also stated that she would have the horse pts. Mind you, that person changes her story so often yoiu never know when to believe her. The poor mare is now in the hands of someone who believes in life at all costs and so her suffering will continue.
As an aside, this mare was destined for slaughter in France because of her current condition, do you really think the then owner did not take veterinary advice? This will be at least the third vet to see the mare, how is he more right than the others?
The REAL owner has posted how happy she is the horse is where she is on another internet site.
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The REAL owner paid out 1000s in vets fees before she, on vets advice, paid £450 to have the horse taken away and pts, SHE is devastated by the turn of events. The person who accepted £100 in payment for this mare is NOT the owner, however, she has also stated that she would have the horse pts. Mind you, that person changes her story so often yoiu never know when to believe her. The poor mare is now in the hands of someone who believes in life at all costs and so her suffering will continue.
As an aside, this mare was destined for slaughter in France because of her current condition, do you really think the then owner did not take veterinary advice? This will be at least the third vet to see the mare, how is he more right than the others?
M_G
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You are right the important one here is the mare and other horses this knacker may well be doing the same thing to.. I hope and pray she is not in pain but fear she is
colormorestud
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What a sad,sad story.....I agree fully..a horse that is suffering should be put out of its misery...sometimes it can be all to easy to think we are "saving" a horse...but we also need to set aside our own feelings and do what is right by the horse in question....so very right,older horses that are being sent for slaughter,are most of the time being sent for a very valid reason...We see things differently in this country,but if we were to go to see a horse to buy that had a health problem,we wouldn't buy it would we,but add to it "rescue" and for some reason it becomes wanted??
I once took on an elderly pony (sort of rescue) during the winter month to discover during the summer she suffered with severe asthma...we made the decision to put this girl out of her misery,we took her and stayed with her...we could have kept her going for our own selfishness,pumping her full of drugs etc....but feel we did the right thing by her,her owner at the time parted with her as she couldn't bring herself to do the "right" thing....I dont hold it against her previous owner,as in the end it is a hard decision,but as horse owners...we sometimes have to take that step back and really look at what is going on,and do the "right" thing by that horse or pony.
I once took on an elderly pony (sort of rescue) during the winter month to discover during the summer she suffered with severe asthma...we made the decision to put this girl out of her misery,we took her and stayed with her...we could have kept her going for our own selfishness,pumping her full of drugs etc....but feel we did the right thing by her,her owner at the time parted with her as she couldn't bring herself to do the "right" thing....I dont hold it against her previous owner,as in the end it is a hard decision,but as horse owners...we sometimes have to take that step back and really look at what is going on,and do the "right" thing by that horse or pony.