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I heard about a litter of puppies today.. Someone thought it would be a great idea to cross a spaniel and a Bassett.... They are called spassets and for a grand you could own one...... Why??? I mean they are not exactly compatible breeds for heaven sake..
 
Why ... Just why?! A purposeful crossbreed with a particular function in mind and health tests done on the respective parents can be a worthwhile thing imo. A crossbreed for the sake of a stupid name, no actual function and (more than likely) no health tests is done purely for profit and to fill the rescue centres :(
 
I wouldn't mind some of the designer cross breeds, beagle x pug seems like a good one I think? Pug gets a longer nose, beagle gets less likely to run off (maybe?!). Would only get one if it was in a rescue kennel though. Couldn't imagine buying a family 'no purpose' dog. For 1k I imagine the OH would laugh for a week :D
 
stencilface said:
I wouldn't mind some of the designer cross breeds, beagle x pug seems like a good one I think? Pug gets a longer nose, beagle gets less likely to run off (maybe?!). Would only get one if it was in a rescue kennel though. Couldn't imagine buying a family 'no purpose' dog. For 1k I imagine the OH would laugh for a week :D
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Puggles look like beagles that have been in a car crash! Seriously the uglist dogs ever, I have met 3 and all have had teeth at very odd angles and a face like...well, poor little dogs I am sure they were nice 'people'.
 
alainax said:
Google doesn't enlighten me here, please do tell what a bobbitty pack is? :D
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A random pack of mongrels that you would take out to hunt rabbits, next doors tom cat, squirrels, rats, anything that moved. They probably don't exist any more! Generally terrier based.
 
Clodagh said:
Puggles look like beagles that have been in a car crash! Seriously the uglist dogs ever, I have met 3 and all have had teeth at very odd angles and a face like...well, poor little dogs I am sure they were nice 'people'.
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I quite like them! Although not looked in any mouths lol. Realistically I'll pick the saddest one in the kennels :D
 
Teaselmeg - the advert you shared was mine. Nine gorgeous puppies, ones gone to a working home, ones staying with me and seven have super homes as family pets. Mongrels/crossbreeds- whatever you want to call them - can be superb dogs with great temperaments I'd cross us carefully selected and people shouldn't automatically condemn them
 
baggyb said:
Teaselmeg - the advert you shared was mine. Nine gorgeous puppies, ones gone to a working home, ones staying with me and seven have super homes as family pets. Mongrels/crossbreeds- whatever you want to call them - can be superb dogs with great temperaments I'd cross us carefully selected and people shouldn't automatically condemn them
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Hello. Thank you for coming on to support your side. What has a bassett added to the lab? I am genuinely curious. The one that has gone to a working home, in what way will it be working? Again, no malice I am intrigued.
 
Like Clodagh, I am genuinely interested in why a lab x bassett is a good idea per se. One is a hound, one a gun dog so for what purpose is the one who will be working, being used. This is in no way aimed at you baggyb, but Im sure Im not alone in thinking that a lot of people put 2 dogs together to create a litter of puppies that they can give a "cute" breed name to and then charge ridiculous amounts of money for because of the cute name. That said, I have met several cavachons and poodle crosses of various sorts that I would take home in a shot. They have all had fab temperaments and seemed really personable little dogs. My conscience just wouldnt let me fork out in the region of £800 though for what is essentially a crossbreed. I only paid £200 for my springers and my jrt was swapped for a couple of horse rugs and some hay :)
 
Clodagh said:
Hello. Thank you for coming on to support your side. What has a bassett added to the lab? I am genuinely curious. The one that has gone to a working home, in what way will it be working? Again, no malice I am intrigued.
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Seconded. As I said in my post, a well thought out crossbreed with a function in mind (and with both parents health tested) is no problem in my book.
 
My neighbour bought the most ugly looking mastiff cross I have ever seen, they love her but agree she is no oil painting, they paid about £300 for her.
Eight months later she is in pup buy accident to their springador type dog, who actually looks like a pointer with a wavy coat. She has nine puppies who look like brown/black Labradors who found homes with two weeks of being offered for sale. The two they have kept, a dog and a bitch look nothing like their mother, both look like they would make good working dogs, very calm temperaments and could pass for working Labradors.
I love mongrels, that's all I have ever had. They are cheap to keep, long lived and tend to have no health problems, I just would not pay hundreds for a first x mutt.
 
honetpot said:
They are cheap to keep, long lived and tend to have no health problems, .
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not always the case, my last one was PTS at 5. I do love an old fashioned mutt and would have another-they just aren't that easy to find these days!

Personally I would avoid any dog with a long back and short legs in an un-health tested dog breed/mix (or even in a tested one, and I love dachs)-seen too many with back problems.
 
I too love mutts and have had lots. Ideally a collie x, they always seem to be healthy, and I wouldn't pay more than £150 for one.
 
We have a collie x kelpie, advertised as a border collie, only found out about the kelpie bit when we picked her up, she was breed on a farm, working parents, couldn't wish for a better dog, great temperament very active as would expect. But, big but the chap selling them would have sold to anyone and she would not be suitable for a working family in a small house where she was left alone a lot.
 
When will people stop breeding !!! Nice little money spinner but FFS the whole country is overrun with dogs needing homes... Sorry rant over but why would anyone want to sell their pet's babies?
 
baggyb said:
Teaselmeg - the advert you shared was mine. Nine gorgeous puppies, ones gone to a working home, ones staying with me and seven have super homes as family pets. Mongrels/crossbreeds- whatever you want to call them - can be superb dogs with great temperaments I'd cross us carefully selected and people shouldn't automatically condemn them
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I would also be interested in why you added Bassett and what health tests were done. I'm afraid calling them 'Bassadors' rather than crossbreeds, just smacked of jumping on the 'designer dog' bandwagon.
 
meesha said:
When will people stop breeding !!! Nice little money spinner but FFS the whole country is overrun with dogs needing homes... Sorry rant over but why would anyone want to sell their pet's babies?
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There will always be place for responsible breeders who breed for a purpose (other than that of simply making a quick buck) and who aim to produce dogs that will excel in a particular sphere, including that of cherished companion. I do agree there needs to be eradication of puppy farms, people breeding their pets simply to make money and with no care or thought given to where these pups end up. Unfortunately in this country, there is a "must have" attitude and couple that with the throwaway mentality of so many, hence our numerous rescue centres are fit to burst with unwanted dogs. Depressing.
 
Of course if you actually look at rescues (I have been to a large number quite recently) you find that whilst there are plenty of bullbreeds/xs and JRT/xs calm family-friendly dogs, particularly relatively small ones, are actually in very short supply.

I have what is supposed to be one of these x-s. (Not any of the ones mentioned above and not by selecting for anything other than the characteristics I was looking for in a pet) and he is fantastic: great with children, healthy, happy in a wide variety of circs and very bright without being too demanding. He was rehomed but I have to say it was pretty difficult to do. Can absolutely see why people pay a lot for pet animals (very few dogs in this country actually 'work' as a percentage of the total canine population) and crosses will tend to have fewer extreme characteristics than pure breeds so why not?
 
Sorry but already as soon as there is an advert up that screams irresponsible breeding as if your breeding you should already have homes waiting and they should have been checked out. I just find the whole over breeding thing just money making. I to have been to rescues and quite a well known one where I got my little dog from. So the breeder never kept in touch obviously. So when selling these pups what is the process?
 
GirlFriday said:
Can absolutely see why people pay a lot for pet animals (very few dogs in this country actually 'work' as a percentage of the total canine population) and crosses will tend to have fewer extreme characteristics than pure breeds so why not?
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I certainly wouldn't disagree that crossbreeds and mongrels can make excellent family pets - but of course that would depend on the breeds involved. I do have to question your last comment though as pedigree dogs are bred to a standard which includes specific desirable temperament traits so a prospective purchaser can choose a breed with traits and personality to suit their requirements. No one can predict the percentage of characteristics a cross may have from each parent. It may well end up with the best of both parents ... or the worst.
 
Kaylum said:
Sorry but already as soon as there is an advert up that screams irresponsible breeding as if your breeding you should already have homes waiting and they should have been checked out. I just find the whole over breeding thing just money making. I to have been to rescues and quite a well known one where I got my little dog from. So the breeder never kept in touch obviously. So when selling these pups what is the process?
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I am sure everyone has a differing view on what constitutes a good breeder. My view is that it is, in most cases, unrealistic to have every puppy spoken for before the mating even takes place - after all, the mating may not be successful, it is impossible to know prior to mating how many pups will be born, people drop out of lists if they find a suitable puppy prior to the litter being born etc. Good breeders certainly gauge interest though and perhaps have a waiting list for a percentage of the pups but I think it is acceptable to advertise a litter once born in certain places such as a breeder's own website, specialist breed and dog forums/publications etc but most definitely avoiding sites such as pets4homes, gumtree, preloved. A good breeder chooses the homes their pups go to very carefully and have a contract that says the pup should be returned to themselves at any point in his/her life should the owner need to part with them for whatever reason. The breeder should also offer a lifetime of backup should it be needed. It is not common for breeders to do homechecks in the way of rescue, but I certainly believe, as a minimum, they should be finding out as much as possible about the prospective home and meeting potential owners a few times prior to agreeing to let them purchase a pup. I would also be happy with a homecheck from a breeder if they felt that was necessary.
 
Our next lab pup will only be confirmed once we have been interviewed by the breedre's wife, to ensure we are suitable. She is only avaialbe as some one has dropped out. I am confident we will pass and have no problems with that, both the last two we had to be intensively questioned before being considered, which is as it should be.
 
It is doubtful I will ever breed a litter of GSDs myself as I just don't think there are enough homes out there to satisfy my exacting criteria!

As my dog is to be used at stud later this year, I will have a hand in vetting any potential owners in the UK and the breeder has extremely high standards and will vet potential owners in Denmark.
 
WGSD, thats exactly why I have never bred a litter myself. I just wouldnt be able to part with them, rightly or wrongly, noone would be quite good enough for one of my girls puppies :)
 
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