On a Diy livery yard...

Probably depends on how DIY the DIY yard is!

If it’s a managed DIY with facilities etc then I’d probably expect things like replacement hose to be included.

If it’s an unmanaged yard where you really are expected to DIY for all aspects then it would probably be up to the livery to deal with
 
Tricky to define as there are about 30 liveries so technically an established yard, albeit no real set management, only owners on site.

I would’ve thought a hose would be included in repairs and maintenance however it would seem not strangely enough.
 
holeymoley said:
Tricky to define as there are about 30 liveries so technically an established yard, albeit no real set management, only owners on site.

I would’ve thought a hose would be included in repairs and maintenance however it would seem not strangely enough.
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Hoses are tricky, because I didn’t think they could legally be used (to do with waste water and contamination I think)
 
Everywhere I've been from DIY to full its been provided, but one yard where it was continuously misused & stepped on by horses through carelessness we all bought a new one - which I thought was fully acceptable.
 
I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on hoses in the last few years - mostly because liveries let their horses stand on them the whole bloody time. Current one has a large split in it, but I am refusing to replace it.

I dont' have DIY's. I'm just really really cross about my hoses...
 
Auslander said:
I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on hoses in the last few years - mostly because liveries let their horses stand on them the whole bloody time. Current one has a large split in it, but I am refusing to replace it.

I dont' have DIY's. I'm just really really cross about my hoses...
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I would be the same. I let a friend put her horse in my field for a while once. It was never going to work long term because every time she used the hose, she rolled it up with kinks in it ?. It drove me mad and threatened the friendship. This is one of the many reasons why I’m not on a yard.
 
All of our taps have a hose of some length connected and the YO looks after/replaces them (albeit I've fixed one myself a couple of times).
 
The YO should provide the hoses but some YOs are so tight they provide only what they can get away with. As for complying with regulations the actual tap needs to be one that prevents water from returning back to the tap.. These are normally available at DIY stores & Garden Centres. All garden taps should have an anti return valve also.
 
Our YO doesn't buy anything like that. Most 'communal' things on the yard actually belong to someone who has just left it there for people to use, like the rake and scoop in the school.

Hoses are another thing entirely. YO doesn't like them. She's tried to discourage us from using them but hasn't actually banned them as she knows sometimes only a hose will do. I've always been respectful of that and only used it when I really needed to for bathing, nothing else. I've chosen my moments when the yard wasn't already very wet (levels are all wrong so if it drains at all it drains down towards YO's house and leaves a bit of a river across her drive) and always swept the excess water towards the drain. I had my own and got it out as and when I needed it as I know part of the reason YO didn't like it was because they look messy if they're not put away neatly. Then new liveries arrived, brought one and left it out. I assume YO decided it wasn't a battle worth fighting any more and everybody began using it (although i do only sparingly). Those liveries have since sold their horses but left the hose. It's very long and only about 10% of it ever gets unrolled so if we get a split in it we just cut the affected piece off! It should last at least another 10 years before it's too short! It's a bit annoying and I can understand where YO is coming from as the tap is outside M's stable and one livery in particular washes her horse's legs every night and, despite us asking frequently doesn't sweep the yard down so the water freezes outside M's stable and we have to put a load of grit (which we have to buy) down before getting him out in the morning. The irony is, this livery moans about everyone using her things (we don't she just forgets where she's left things lying around and thinks other people have moved them) but uses everybody else's and doesn't clear up after herself.
 
Depends on the contract with the yard owners/manager. Personally I would expect anything basically structural to be provided and maintained in the cost of livery, especially because an owner/manager should be concerned to keep a safe environment. I would also expect a contract to say that if horses/owners caused specific damage over and above normal wear and tear that the owner/manager reserved the right to charge them for the damage.
 
It seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. In the yards I’ve been on the hose has been part of the yard as such. I’m a bit aghast that it wouldn’t be replaced. I don’t pay peanuts for livery despite it being diy so surely if something like that brakes it should be included. It’s been going good and strong until the last few days it’s weakened at a kink and the cold weather has just added to it.
 
After my grumpy "I'm not buying any more hoses for people to wreck" post earlier - i have changed my mind and bought another, more expensive, reinforced one.

This is why...
It's kind of my own fault, as i was so mesmerised by an attractive tree surgeon, who was talking to me while i scrubbed feed buckets, that i failed to notice that the hole in the hose was pointed at my leg!
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holeymoley said:
who pays when you need new equipment such as hoses etc?

A genuine query!
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Depends. If it is a hose which was not supposed to be used for washing down, as we have a hose and sign says don't use this one. Then you use it you replace it
If it is a hose allocated for the use of washing etc then yard does.
 
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