I am becoming increasingly better at sitting on my hands and not commenting. I'm afraid I would look (and feel) more like Andy Pandy in a onesie with weeble tendencies.
As for the 'Welsh One', well I did ask him if he wanted one in his fluffy christmassy stocking but it went kind of like this:
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I am becoming increasingly better at sitting on my hands and not commenting. I'm afraid I would look (and feel) more like Andy Pandy in a onesie with weeble tendencies.
As for the 'Welsh One', well I did ask him if he wanted one in his fluffy christmassy stocking but it went kind of like this:
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Does it matter?
As long as horses get the vet, trimmer, forage, shelter, saddle fitting and all other appropriate care does it matter what their owners spend the rest of their money on?
Oh I don't need a flash back - a flash in the mirror reminds meIm sorry but your post made me laugh so much i just had this flash back to when i was younger of tweddle dee and tweedle dum!![]()
Sorry but I disagree that it isn't verging on a welfare issue - horses aren't designed to have their coats flattened for hours on end, normal rugs at least don't cover 95% of their body unlike the onsies and still allow a little freedom. I also thing they pull over the withers and rumps and I know wearing cuffs annoys me so god knows what a poor horse would feel like trussed up like a turkey for hours on end.
Horses grow their own onsie, its called a fur coat - when we humans realise nothing betters nature maybe we will finally stop messing the poor things endocrine systems about.
Sorry but I disagree that it isn't verging on a welfare issue - horses aren't designed to have their coats flattened for hours on end, normal rugs at least don't cover 95% of their body unlike the onsies and still allow a little freedom. I also thing they pull over the withers and rumps and I know wearing cuffs annoys me so god knows what a poor horse would feel like trussed up like a turkey for hours on end.
Horses grow their own onsie, its called a fur coat - when we humans realise nothing betters nature maybe we will finally stop messing the poor things endocrine systems about.
An indication, perhaps, that getting muddy is something beneficial to horses and that we may be doing a disservice to them by preventing it.Mine wear rugs but still manage to get absolutely filthy by dunking themselves in the wettest, muddiest part of the field each day. Bottom line is they are horses, & I accept / allow them to behave as such.
An indication, perhaps, that getting muddy is something beneficial to horses and that we may be doing a disservice to them by preventing it.
Horses will roll for many reasons but if you take the socialising aspect and of course colic every other reason is basically skin/coat related.
It enables loose and dead hair to be removed, its a natural way for a horse to groom itself, fluffs up the hair in cold weather, helps it to cool down in hot weather, helps with insects, adds natural dirt and grease to the coat and most importantly it makes the horse smell of - well a horse, instead of how humans want them to smell!
IMO a onesie inhibits this natural behaviour.
I've been pondering onesies.Horses will roll for many reasons but if you take the socialising aspect and of course colic every other reason is basically skin/coat related.
It enables loose and dead hair to be removed, its a natural way for a horse to groom itself, fluffs up the hair in cold weather, helps it to cool down in hot weather, helps with insects, adds natural dirt and grease to the coat and most importantly it makes the horse smell of - well a horse, instead of how humans want them to smell!
IMO a onesie inhibits this natural behaviour.
I've been pondering onesies.
Surely the above applies to rugs especially with neck covers and hoods as well? Obviously the onsies with legs are a step further but what makes onsies worse? Tbh I expect the horse is no more upset by a onesie than full rug regalia including leg and over reach boots.
How much is our perception of the attitude of owners who use animal print or twee printed onesies?
In the end any covering is going to impact temperature control, comfort, sensory stimuli and normal behaviours.
I do agreeShow my an "equine onesie" that does not have the potential to rub/come over the eyes/get the horses legs caught up when rolling or is designed of anything near breathable material and I may rethink.
The bottom line is I accept my horses get muddy and I am confident their rugs hinder their life as much as possible, I would not turn my back for more than a second if they were wearing onesies, I think they are dangerous and stupid, I would consider them a welfare issue.
Does it matter?
As long as horses get the vet, trimmer, forage, shelter, saddle fitting and all other appropriate care does it matter what their owners spend the rest of their money on?
My pony has all sorts he doesnt really need but he gets absolutely everything he does need.
As long as a sensible line is taken with regards to warmth with no over rugging i cant see a problem
Poor workmanship aside i am yet to hear of a single genuine onesie injury or health problem caused by one, i think it would be better and more fool proof if they ended at the poll but aside from that actually like them
For a pony like mine who had stripped off the hair and skin on his tummy and down his legs because of sweet itch (before i bought him) that sort of garment may be useful
Well constructed and with good fabric choices i do think they have a place in the market
Show my an "equine onesie" that does not have the potential to rub/come over the eyes/get the horses legs caught up when rolling or is designed of anything near breathable material and I may rethink.
The bottom line is I accept my horses get muddy and I am confident their rugs hinder their life as much as possible, I would not turn my back for more than a second if they were wearing onesies, I think they are dangerous and stupid, I would consider them a welfare issue.
agree
apart from the cheap fleece they're made out of cutting off circulation around the pasterns being a concern i do wonder how many owners of ponies in onesies must come out to the stable in the morning only to find their pony having filled their onesie's back legs' up with poo.
My two greys have snuggy hoods, turnouts with full necks and tail bags to keep them clean. Yes it's entirely for my benefit, but they're happy and healthy so what does it matter? I work full time and manage two horses on DIY so every bit of time I can save is very precious. One in particular is half horse half hippo and if I didn't cover him from nose to tail I would spend so much time brushing him I'd never get to ride. He also has very sensitive skin and hates being brushed with a passion and (not so much in winter when he's clipped) a coat so dense that you think he's clean and then he sweats mud.
I'm not talking vanity here, I'm no clean freak but the amount of mud he gets on him would mean clouds of mud dust coming off him and choking me as I ride or interfering with his tack. They're not in the slightest bit pampered - they go out in a small herd in all weathers from 6am until 7pm and I'd have them out permanently if my yard allowed, have a very basic diet and are treated very much as horses. I'd rather spend my time riding and have a fit horse able to cope with the demands I place on him than spend hours brushing him.
I did worry about putting a snuggy hood on them but they're both very sensible and in a well fenced safe field with a very settled quiet herd. They've torn them (or one has) frequently and lost them once or twice but never had them stuck over their eyes. I've seen some of the cheaper makes and would never use them, they stretch and move way too easily.
Having said that, I wouldn't put a onesie on them, that's taking it way too far.