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Oh heck, just saw the video.

Others will be better placed to comment on soundness/quality of movement but I'd definitely say he looks uncomfortable with rider (not a comment on your riding which looked very calm and sensitive) as well as nervy going out by self (which is fine in a youngster with chequered past) and obviously bothered by the flies (assuming that is what he was kicking out at).

Other note: if I was the seller and both myself (lady in blue coat?), horse and name of horse appeared in web video I might be quite upset if I hadn't already agreed to it.
 
Tickles said:
I wouldn't put the bucking down to 'character' (I'm assuming you were only walking around a little on ground as hard and stony as that looks so nothing exciting going on and in his usual area.)

I'd more likely put it down to something hurting him. Could easily be tack but could be something worse too.

Vetting, definitely.

As above, he does still look very young based on colour and shape... so make sure you both ask vet about age and get his racing name/trainer's details/anything to help you verify age with weatherbys/whoever. Having said that, he'll have done too much too young anyway most likely...

Looks sweet though.
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Oh no, I know this already! He needs his teeth done, been over a year apparently, also needs a new bridle, new saddle, back checked etc etc. Only then would anyone be able to see what he is actually like!!

I have seen his passport, with weatherbys, so I know his DOB etc, everything checks out, I just think because of his backwards start in life, he's super baby like! lol

bexyc-bee
 
PS, As he looks really sweet in the video too if you have the finds to fix whatever is necessary, I do rather hope for his sake you buy him... you ride him very nicely and clearly think things through.

Good luck!
 
BoolavogueDC said:
Im watching this video and you ride him very nicely to me, very quiet and very unimpressed with his shenanigans! :D
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Ditto - you are a lovely quiet rider! He would be too much for me, but watching you on him you handle him beautifully. I hope he is cheap though as he is going to take a lot of your time and patience. :)
Good luck!
 
amymay said:
I'm shocked. I thought you'd say he was 3 years at the most.

Go look at him (praying he has more condition on him). Pay close attention to his legs, especially his feets as they look very long in the photo's you've posted.
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Proceed with caution! He has very little in the way of tone, front feet too long, poor fitting tack. BUT, if you have the time and expertise to deal with him, then go for it.
 
And having seen another ladies thread in CR about her ex racer - the transformation was astounding, maybe you should PM her for some advice as she's clearly done a fantastic job. There's also a lady on here called Kit279 with a black ex racer (god I think its that... its something like that!!) who took some time to PM me when i was considering it - very helpful and knowledgeable.

As some have said if he's cheap and passes a vetting I could quite see you two making a wonderful pair.
 
Vizslak said:
How much is he? Or have I missed that bit? If he's cheap, REALLY cheap, I think he's worth a punt....definately looks like he's in pain somewhere to me, get him vetted to check that its going to be fixable, I suspect it is and obviously he's going to take a lot of hard work, but actually, he looks quite sweet and like he could turn into something rather nice in the right home with appropriate care and training.
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Ditto, as he stands I would say he is worth very little (meat money!). There are plenty of ex-racers out there that look far less complicated then this little guy.

I would be very, very cautious about buying him, he looks to be in pain and looks very un-impressed about being ridden, broncing in canter is more then character showing IMO, I think a vetting would definitely be wise!

As you plan to sell him on be aware that Ex-racers don't tend to be worth as much as other breeds, even if they are successfully competing.

You seem more then capable of riding/handling him but I still think you may be better off looking elsewhere, sorry :o


(That said if you do buy him I am looking forward to seeing how he progresses and hope you will keep us updated :D )
 
What a nice quiet rider you are, you can come and ride my lot anytime!

Tbh, he's not really my thing and the tension/apprehension about being ridden would put me off buying him. If he was a freebie I would probably give him a chance, but I think you could buy something better in your budget. Agree that vetting is a must. Let us know what you decide!
 
The thing you have to ask yourself is as you are buying a cheap horse is it a false economy? - will you end up spending a huge amount getting him to a ridable level, if he is even fixable as it does look like you are going to have to spend a small fortune getting him checked out, would the amount you are spending equal a far better horse that would suit what you actually want to do with it? I know it is very easy to fall for a horse and be led by your heart but would you feel the same way about a horse that in a years time is just a lawn mower and eating money?
Rescuing a horse is great but if you end up with a pasture pet that you can't sell if you needed to in the future, can you afford it? And then have to go out and buy another horse that will do what you wanted to do in the first place? Personally if you are after a event/jumping horse then this horse really doesn't, as others have said, have the conformation for it and will more than likely lead to unsoundness issues in the near future, if however you are happy with a happy hacker/possible pasture pet then go for it and rescue him, as long as he is seriously cheap and get a full vetting on him!!:D
I'm sure though if you do rescue this little guy he will be a very grateful pet!!:D
 
Tickles said:
PS, As he looks really sweet in the video too if you have the finds to fix whatever is necessary, I do rather hope for his sake you buy him... you ride him very nicely and clearly think things through.

Good luck!
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YasandCrystal said:
Ditto - you are a lovely quiet rider! He would be too much for me, but watching you on him you handle him beautifully. I hope he is cheap though as he is going to take a lot of your time and patience. :)
Good luck!
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La Fiaba said:
What a nice quiet rider you are, you can come and ride my lot anytime!

Tbh, he's not really my thing and the tension/apprehension about being ridden would put me off buying him. If he was a freebie I would probably give him a chance, but I think you could buy something better in your budget. Agree that vetting is a must. Let us know what you decide!
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Thank you all :D I shall not be able to walk out of the door today, im sure my head has grown! :o

And La Fiaba, I have already decided, but as so many people wanted to see the recent pics, I thought I would post them lol

bexcy-bee x
 
I like a challenge but wouldn't touch this horse with a very long barge pole.

Whether it's due to pain or just plain nappiness is irrelevant, he is quite likely to hurt someone, apart from anything else he is due to start going up sometimes soon & I wouldn't want to be on board when he does, he's the sort to throw himself over out of temper.

Honestly, walk away.
 
I know that you have a small budget, but I think that it would be wise to have some spare money available to get him pain free (he doesn't look happy at the moment). Don't have the saddle that they are riding him in. Get him vetted as there might be something lurking that will rule him out as your potential horse.

If you get him (I can see he has potential) then expect to spend the first couple of months getting him ready for ridden work. You'll probably have to work through his napping too, as he will (most likely) continue to do it even when he's no longer in pain.

Let us know how it goes. :D
 
3Beasties said:
Ditto, as he stands I would say he is worth very little (meat money!). There are plenty of ex-racers out there that look far less complicated then this little guy.

I would be very, very cautious about buying him, he looks to be in pain and looks very un-impressed about being ridden, broncing in canter is more then character showing IMO, I think a vetting would definitely be wise!

As you plan to sell him on be aware that Ex-racers don't tend to be worth as much as other breeds, even if they are successfully competing.

You seem more then capable of riding/handling him but I still think you may be better off looking elsewhere, sorry :o


(That said if you do buy him I am looking forward to seeing how he progresses and hope you will keep us updated :D )
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Not sure if I confused you, but I'm not looking for a horse to buy and sell, Im looking for one to have fun, cuddles and play with! lol. ETA also to compete, but not to resell lol

And, this chap wasn't an ex-racer, he trained to race, but wasn't good enough, so didn't finish training lol

bexcy-bee x
 
Ooh, stroppy little bugger isn't he?? I do hope she's not asking too much for him as in the state of schooling that he is currently at he's worth £500 max I'd say. Nice horse and as someone else said already- I rather hope that you buy him and not someone who doesn't have a clue. You ride very well and obviously are expecting something that needs a lot of work. I don't see why he wouldn't pass a vetting, looks like he's got a strop on about having to work to me.
 
bexcy-bee said:
Not sure if I confused you, but I'm not looking for a horse to buy and sell, Im looking for one to have fun, cuddles and play with! lol. ETA also to compete, but not to resell lol

And, this chap wasn't an ex-racer, he trained to race, but wasn't good enough, so didn't finish training lol

bexcy-bee x
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Sorry I thought I read earlier that you planned to sell him on eventually :o

I think he would still be classed as an 'Ex-Racer' if you were to sell him on as he has been in training.
 
My gut feeling... get it! Have you already... :D Forward at the knee? Where? Loads of horses stand like that and it's not always a confo issue - foot balance issues can make any horse stand on thier toes.

I think once you sort the back/teeth issue he'll be fine - in that vid, something looks like its pinching him and that headshake screams "ow" to me but I think if you worked him properly he might turn into a swan!
 
What did you decide Bexcy :) I'm dying to know and also dying to search for a lovely horse for you!! :D I get the vibe you liked him. I hope if you did decide yes he turns out to be a diamond in the rough for you and nothing really untoward going on with him.
 
Faracat said:
I know that you have a small budget, but I think that it would be wise to have some spare money available to get him pain free (he doesn't look happy at the moment). Don't have the saddle that they are riding him in. Get him vetted as there might be something lurking that will rule him out as your potential horse.

If you get him (I can see he has potential) then expect to spend the first couple of months getting him ready for ridden work. You'll probably have to work through his napping too, as he will (most likely) continue to do it even when he's no longer in pain.

Let us know how it goes. :D
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The money isn't an issue, at all. Im not prepared to pay over £1k, for any horse, because I know I can make them worth more, so why pay for what I can do, does that make sense? lol

He would be ridden in my wintec to start with, fully fitted, but so if he were to fall over etc, then I havent broken anything expensive! lol

Im not sure how much is nappiness, as he walked happily past the entrance to his field, I think most of it is pain if im honest, which I know will continue when he's fine, due to habit.

Having read everything people have said, I am now going to reveal what Im doing...

He has a deposit down on him, and we are picking him up. I dont think we're paying enough for him to warrant a vetting, he is literally peanuts, even though advertised for £1300.

So, Im very excited, but if he doesnt turn out to be an eventer/sjer or anything, I know I will have a lot of fun with him regardless. Im not into horse owning for winning, Its all about fun and love to me, which he showed a hell of a lot of (love that is!) on the ground, was very affectionate, so yes, meet MY new horse everyone :D

bexcy-bee x
 
I think he is going to be an absolute smasher in a couple of years! youd be hard pushed to find a tb with good confirmation if im honest! The breed is a man made mess! I have a tb bought with a ewe necked, weedy thing and he was competing novice BD last year, a completely different animal! Personally if it were me i would go for it! let him chill for a couple of weeks, get his teeth done and back done then pessoa work him for a few weeks to get him comfy over his back and get some muscle their and then get a saddle fitted that will allow for muscle to form.
It makes me laugh how when ever a horse is having a buck or a naughty moment, everyone jumps on the he must be in pain band waggon. That to me looks like a green 6 yr old pushing his luck! if he wanted you of that bad im sure hed have no trouble! But im not vet so couldnt tell you if he was in pain or not. If it contined after a certain amount of time i would have it investigated. My tb has kissing spines but not once did he show it! just happened to be picked up on a bone scan!
I would make an offer though and try and knock them down abit! I bought my mare for £500! she has been a baggage to bring on, but went out and kicked ass at her first show the other week!
 
I'd be very careful TBH, if you do go ahead make sure you have him vetted and have his back looked too, my TB is having major back issues at the moment caused by poor confo and may end up as a field ornament - shes only 6. She was reluctant to work too. I would def say his issues are caused by some sort of pain,most likely back, and his confo isnt going to do him any favours either esp if you want him for eventing.
All i am trying to say is go into it with your eyes wide open and be careful as you could end up with a very pretty field ornament :eek:
 
Yup - if you are interested and patient enough to sort his back pain (looks like) issues, then there IS something about him... :)
He looks as if he could be a fun and sweet little horse, and I hope for his sake he gets a chance. Don't take his saddle and don't pay very much at all!
 
Faracat said:
It sounds like you've thought this through very carefully.

I'm looking forward to the progress reports, with lots of pics please. :D ;)
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Faracat, I really respect your opinion, and on a few things you've made me see things a different way, helped me out etc, so thankyou for all that, and Im really pleased you said that :D so thanks again [=

bexcy-bee x
 
I am amazed you have decided, with what sounds like good riding skills but probably limited lameness/pain issue knoweldge to pay roughly what, a grand? for a horse that will cost you far more in vets bills if he has something serious giong on (the old story about not being fast enough to race...also fits in with an injury in training..which would also fit with being kept in a stable at the polo yard). I will be 'interested' to see how this goes, it is not too late to get a vetting yet.. For the extra 200 quid (or even less if you just go for a lameness and heart check) it's not worth the heartache of ending up with a horse you can't compete on-particularly if it's your only horse.
 
Personally, I'm glad that you've gone for it. I don't know why but I think there's really something nice about him and I feel like you can make him come good. You are obviously prepared to put in the hard work and to invest the time and money in sorting out any health issues and then working on the rest. You look more than capable.

I look forward to seeing photos of him in a years time to see how he has turned out. :)
 
i think hes lovely :o

Really quirky.... but what horse is perfect ? :D

your well aware of his faults/checks (back/teeth/tack).... you obviously know what your doing - so good luck to you :)
 
That's so kind of you. :D

I agree with everyone that says that you are a lovely rider (I'm very jealous ;) and I have a huge soft spot for ex-racers, even if they didn't make it through training. :p I really hope that he transforms into a super little horse for you (I'm sure you'll get there). Lots of work, but so, so worth it. :)
 
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