opinions please.

Don't TBs develop rapidly in comparison to other breeds?

Anyway - that argument doesn't make it excusable to overload any youngster and anyone with any basic understanding of horses would already know the answer as to whether it was acceptable to hunt a rising 3yo.
 
YOU HAVE A VOICE AND A CHOICE the poor animal DOES NOT-

If they told you to wash it in domestos or strap it in side reins overnight or keep it without food for a week would you?

And dont come out with the old chestnut "if i dont someone else will" it does not wash with people whom have a genuine concern for animals.
 
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Bearing in mind that two year old thoroughbreds are racing every day,I think comments like "are you mad "are unhelpfull and possibley hurtfull. At least this person is seeking advice.
I personally dont think it is a good idea for a native breed,however if i ahd a git of a 2yo TB who needed to learn some manners then I wouldnt be averse to the odd hour hunting.(fortunately my days of having to do the riding are over)Hunting is as hard or soft on a horse as the rider makes it!
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thanks, well this is why ive posted this to see if anybody else feels the same way. im am against this horse doing this and i feel i am coming across as actually wanting this horse to hunt which i dont. I am definately NOT a troll and if asking for some friendly advice (in which i know the real answer but wanted opinions on people who felt the same) results in this then i shalt ask again. I dont want people to turn aggressive and turn on me because it makes me feel ''ganged upon'' but anyway thanks for all your advice and its a working progress on getting the horse turned out so thanks, i shall copy all your comments as my backup.
 
ummmmmmmmmmmm no. I would turn her away until the spring of her 4th year, I don't understand the need to do so much so young, and personally would not buy a horse that had been backed at 2.
 
i thought they did too m_c; but i still dont like racing, i understand the jockeys are light etc... i just dont like it

by all means turn it out and handle it... but please dont let the person hunt it... sorry i didnt realise it was someone elses horse, i thought it was you

shadowmonkey, if you read my previous post and disliked it sorry, pony is about 3.5 and we are taking everything slowly... it probs wont be being ridden properly until it is 4
and she has only been sat on once properly for about 5 mins..
ym is an exracehorse trainer and has lots of experience with youngstock.. so wont do anything for the detrement of the pony
 
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i thought they did too m_c; but i still dont like racing, i understand the jockeys are light etc... i just dont like it

by all means turn it out and handle it... but please dont let the person hunt it... sorry i didnt realise it was someone elses horse, i thought it was you

shadowmonkey, if you read my previous post and disliked it sorry, pony is about 3.5 and we are taking everything slowly... it probs wont be being ridden properly until it is 4
and she has only been sat on once properly for about 5 mins..
ym is an exracehorse trainer and has lots of experience with youngstock.. so wont do anything for the detrement of the pony

[/ QUOTE ] huh? sorry it was not to you- must just have been because I used the QR box at the bottom of the page. Appologies. Im going to be honest- I am suspicious of the OP because she has posed the same question about a coloured some months back. I went through years or guilt at backing my baby too young (accidently- long story about passport mix up) and I despise young horses being made to work- the fact that she has even willingly ridden it and has considered the act of hunting is saddening...
 
Sorry if you feel ganged up on but surely you were expecting a backlash from your post???/

See it from our point of view - it is rather an "explosive" subject you have broached and was bound to provoke a huge amount of passion.
 
i dont think it was qr, i just thought i would tell you as you dislike it... before anyone had a go at me too :s

thats such a shame; but you wouldnt of done it if you hadnt of had problems with passports would you?

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I thought OP meant that coloured horse ..and judging by the amount of bone it has and how tall it is already, it has lots of maturing to do even a month on
Personally, wouldn't bother sitting on anything under the age of 3 but i guess its all opinions and they all differ.
 
What on earth was the point of entitling your post 'opinion please' if you didn't want to hear them and weren't going to pay any attention to them?
You say you're trying to get the owners to turn it away but then you agree with someone who says it would be ok to hunt it. Which is it? Honestly you can't complain about people ganging up on you, because they're not - it's obvious that pretty much everyone is going to have the same opinion on the subject.
 
Not a good advert for your stud I'm afraid.

I would not buy a horse that had been hunted as a 2 year old, far too young. They need time for their bones, brains and bodies to develop.

All I'll say is good for you if you refuse to do it, which I hope you will. But if that's how the owners do things, I would steer clear of anything that comes out that yard.

Don't know if it's just me that think's that Mike_007's comment regarding teaching a 2yo horse manners by taking it hunting is a bit mad????!!!! How would that teach it manners? It's a baby??!!
 
If its job is to be a racehorse and it needs to see a bit of life before some poor sod has to sit on it at the races,then a quiet hour out with hounds is not a bad idea.
 
To be honest, I think you are backpedalling like a good 'un. Your OP does not read at all like someone who disagrees and is looking for ammo to give to an owner!

It reads like someone saying, she's a big filly, the hunt isn't that fast, what's the chance of me getting away with it? - my aunties did...

Lost any respect for you I'm afraid.
 
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i agree here, sadly.

even if this horse/pony is not yours, it's on your yard and you're allowing (partaking in?) something to happen which is frowned upon massively in horsey circles. apart from the odd person saying it'll teach manners, surely anyone (even me!) knows this isn't right?

judging from your previous posts and your sig, you have some stunning stunning horses, who should make up your reputation. not becoming known as somewhere that breaks two year olds... or, even worse, hunts them.

perhaps you need to have a strict yard rule put in place about things you will and won't tolerate on the yard. and include this? then you can use that as an excuse to the owners, and it will also ensure they won't get someone else to ride for them whilst they're on the yard? xxx
 
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I am probably going to get grief for asking and saying this.
I am curious what involvement you have with this horse I have read your posts on this tread but part of me cannot help but wonder that you have more involvement with the horse than you let on by the way you worded your frist post.
Considering you seem to be rather positive about the way you aunt took the cob out hunting at this age, just your first post and other following seem slightly contradicting. But this may just be the way I have read it.
Part of me just thinks that if you run/own/work on a stud you would know how immature the majority of 2yros can be that I am quite surprised you have to ask about this.
Sorry if I have got the wrong end of the stick, but in answer no I would not hunt a 2yro I would tell whoever wants you to that a horse shouldn't be doing that at such a young age.
Hope it gets sorted for the horses sake.
 
Yeah i agree LindaW i thought it sounded as though it was her horse and she wanted to see if she could get away with it and have some of the guilt taken away especially when this is the second time posting about a 2 year old horse they have been riding
 
Most hunts of any repute would actually not allow you to hunt anything younger than 4 years old with them. So that rules hunting out such an undeveloped youngster.

Seems a shame to start them so young, when there really is no need.
 
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To be honest, I think you are backpedalling like a good 'un. Your OP does not read at all like someone who disagrees and is looking for ammo to give to an owner!

It reads like someone saying, she's a big filly, the hunt isn't that fast, what's the chance of me getting away with it? - my aunties did...


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I agree; the OP reads like a justification for a choice that's already been made - no point trying to claim you're being 'ganged up' upon later on when the strength of opposition has been revealed. You asked a question, you received numerous answers, very few of which were supportive. Negative responses are quite different to 'gang' mentality, just happens most people can't see the logic in hacking/hunting a 2 yo.

If you are already opposed to the idea, why seek to jusify it?
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No, you shouldn't be even considering backing or riding a two year old at all.
I know someone who rides their 3 year pony for 45 minutes a day and I'm my opinion this is still too much, but I'm over cautious and wouldn't back until three and a half to four years old and have a horse in hard work until it's rising five.
 
Well To Mike, just because tbs race at 2 and upwards does not make it right. In fact there are a lot of people against it, including myself. A 2yo is a 2yo, no matter the breed it's a baby.

But aside from that, hunts blow the minds and wind of many mature horses first time if not done carefully, to even contemplate it with a horse so young is ridiculous. To be honest i cringe at the idea of a 2yo even being sat on. I never see the rush to get them backed. Just let them learn about the basics of life and 'education' before they have to be all grown up so fast.
 
even the Irish don't hunt a 2 year old horse - horse is usually 3 rising 4 before taken out on a hunt which then involves going to the quieter meets and jumping tiny things.

Tbh, to hunt a horse at 2 is crazy - especially from a stud
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OP, sorry, but if you were not asking for yourself, why does your first post sound like you are? You have admitted that you are the one riding it anyhow, which is wrong in itself. As others have said, you are not a good advert for your stud.

Was going to say what AmyMay said too, you are not allowed to join a hunt on a horse under 4 years old.
 
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Most hunts of any repute would actually not allow you to hunt anything younger than 4 years old with them. So that rules hunting out such an undeveloped youngster.

Seems a shame to start them so young, when there really is no need.

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Exactly.
 
Please don't do it
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For a veterinary example - my friend bought a 3 1/2 year old, lightly backed it then turned it away til it was 4 -bought it back slowly into work, lightly rode it in school (for say 20min) once a week and hacked it for half an hour maybe twice a week but it suddenley went lame. X-rays and MRI scans revealed it still had the bone growth and ligament formation of a 2 year old and so vet said was not in any way ready for even that level of work (hence going lame) - she has had to turn it away again for a year and hope it comes sound again.

As far as racehorses go - yes they get worked young but then the horses are "needed" normally once they get passed 4-5ys so they aren't concerned with bringing slowly to have a horse for long-term
 
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