Other people's agressive dogs (minor rant only)

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I was walking the terrible trio today around the woods, nearly at the end of the walk, when a biggish flatcoat type mongrel bounded out of the woods near us. Must have belonged to a local resident, as a bloke appeared out of the 'private woodland' area after the dog.

Said dog promptly growled and snapped at mine with absolutely ZERO provocation at all :mad: I grabbed Islay, Amy had disapeared, and stupid little Flick ran off after the mongrel when it headed back towards its owner. Whereupon another flatcoat type mongrel dog appeared, ran back towards me after Flick, bounded over to her and jumped on her growling and snarling :eek: I am not embarrased to say that I booted it twice in the ribs to disuade it from attacking Flick (I had trainers on, so not hard before anyone reports me!) then as I grabbed Flick's collar it turned round on me and caught my hand with its teeth - skin not broken, but nice little bruise/lump there now :mad:

Got Flick on the lead, swore very loudly at the mongrel until it removed itself from the vicinity, Amy appeared so grabbed her and put her on the lead too!

Bloke did ask whether the dogs were OK, I said 'fine thanks but my hand isnt where it got in the way' which he totally ignored - he then said he also had a cat with him, so I can imagine where Amy had been in the meantime :rolleyes:

No damage done apart from the little thing on my hand, but it makes me so CROSS when people let their dogs behave like that without provocation? Mine are all bitches and the two mongrels were dogs as well, so no idea why they jumped on mine :mad:

Minor rant over now thank you :)
 
Well as you know, my fella would probably do something similar, being territorial and not adequately socialised during that important period of his life, as these guys sound..so...I keep him on a lead in areas where I am likely to meet other people and dogs, it's not rocket science, wish other people would do the same!!!

Glad your girls, and your mits are OK!!!
 
I have this issue, except that mine is an entire dog and is normally jumped on by other dogs. :mad:

I think I'm going get a big flashing sign that says 'Keep your ********** dog on the lead if mine is' with other filth on the end. It will double up as a warning and a handy weapon with which to hit the attacking dog.
 
I'm always surprised when dogs go for bitches still, I think I am too used to CKCS :D

The doglets were much placated by being fed their second raw meal when we got home - this time I used bowls :D
 
However you didn't have enough control to have your three dogs back on leads sharpish when this occured i.e close to you whre you could protect them.
Not much better imo..
 
Even the best behaved pack-of-three in the world would be unlikely to snap into a heel position and wait for their leads to be put back on in that situation (while under attack) and the OP seems to have got them under control relatively quickly without a full scale fight breaking out, which is probably better than would have happened to me (ever tried 'protecting' a dog in a fight? It's best to let them run, less puncture wounds for you that way) but hey, I wasn't there, and neither were you :)
 
I don't think its worth worrying about - dogs are dogs - I know that they are living breathing creatures and while they may 99.9% of the time be good with other dogs, there may be that time they turn which no-one can account for.

I'd just chalk it up to dogs being dogs, since no-one was hurt.
 
the thing is, your dogs were off the lead, which isnt on anywhere, i know people do it, but no matter what the dogs temperment, bad things will ensue as you have no control over them. and if thing had ended badly in this situation, you would have been equally to blame unfortunately.

weve had no end of people with dogs off the lead this year, with the wonderful excuses "im on a footpath" (yes well your dogs arent, they are chasing sheep/pheasants and if they go in there will attract 20 head of aggressive bullock who will trample you for the fun of it) or, "but they are good as gold", (which may be the case but weve had a spate of ewe attacks caused by uncontrolled dogs, twice where the owners (usually in tears) have insisted their dogs have never done anything like that before, which is no excuse to the dead sheep and the two orphan lambs that are left behind)

the best thing to do is unless you are on secure private land with the owners permission, buy a long extendable lead or long line, and keep in control.

sorry that was a bit of a rant of my own, can you guess that this has happened quite alot this year lol.
 
We're having a similar problem at the mo - stupid woman who lives near us repeatedly refusing to put her 2 bitches on a lead and lets them rush up to my SBT and Rottie bitch, growling and snarling (mine are always on the lead as they're not the friendliest ) and then it is my husband who is the bad guy and gets called all the names under the sun.
 
dilbert said:
We're having a similar problem at the mo - stupid woman who lives near us repeatedly refusing to put her 2 bitches on a lead and lets them rush up to my SBT and Rottie bitch, growling and snarling (mine are always on the lead as they're not the friendliest ) and then it is my husband who is the bad guy and gets called all the names under the sun.
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If its a regular occurence and if your husband is able to - how about him having a water spray with him - maybe something suitably stinky too? appreciate holding 2 dogs on leads with 2 others racing at them might be a tad tricky but might be worth considering

and you do have my sympathy - I walk mine on long extendables because I do not like them disappearing off into the woods at all but met someone a few weeks ago - his dogs were off the lead, I called mine to sit next to me (quicker than dragging the leads in) and wretched man couldnt control his own dogs - when I shouted at him to call his back, his response was to his dog" oh come away those vicious staffies will hurt you". - when his wretched animal was snapping and running around me.

No prizes for guessing my response but it was pretty sharp!
 
This is one of my pet peeves! I have a Greatweiler, ( great Dane x rottweiler) he is very well behaved, always on a lead in public yet has been attacked a few times by loose dogs. He was once bitten quite badly by a jrt whose owner laughed about it! I was furious and told her so in as few words as possible! Why is that funny? Wouldn't be seen as funny if it were the other way round! As a result tho he is now tense around other dogs and tends to go in with a woof and bounce approach to anything that approaches and knock it off it's feet. I get people being rude about that too, but he is only protecting his space not running about out of control.
 
To be honest as dog owners while most of us do our best - they are animals and they can be unpredictable. A little understanding and common sense both ways would save a lot of upset in these types of situation. For instance:

I took my dogs on a trip with me last week to Lincs, the B+B owners little cairn x went for my JRT bitch. but instead of labelling her a loose, wicked uncontrolled dog, I chalked it up to a clash of personalities - as owner assured us she was nice normally and my bitch is usually very good. Nothing to shout and scream about and no harm done.
 
SusieT if I could post pics I would but I'm a bit thick I think! Basically he is 30ins to his shoulder with the rottie build, so looks like a brick outhouse! He is mostly black with a few White patches,( dad was a harlequin) and blue eyes! Looks very imposing but is as soft as muck!
 
Kitsune said:
To be honest as dog owners while most of us do our best - they are animals and they can be unpredictable. A little understanding and common sense both ways would save a lot of upset in these types of situation. For instance:

I took my dogs on a trip with me last week to Lincs, the B+B owners little cairn x went for my JRT bitch. but instead of labelling her a loose, wicked uncontrolled dog, I chalked it up to a clash of personalities - as owner assured us she was nice normally and my bitch is usually very good. Nothing to shout and scream about and no harm done.
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Your situation was different though, if the cairn was on its own territory then it was more understandable, if not really excusable. I think you said Lily had a few "sharp words" with Zarno when you had him, and you accepted that she was just letting him know it was her home. If you were out walking your 2 and they were attacked by a bigger dog I think you would understandably be less inclined to chalk it up to dogs being dogs.

Fallenangel, I'm with you there. My GSDs have frequently been yapped and snapped at by little dogs, and the owners always seem to find it funny, but it would soon wipe the smile off their face if the shepherd retaliated.
 
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As much as people may hate me for this Abe has been taught to bark like crazy on command that's one trick i like using when little dogs come up all yappy and snarly and the owners think its funny, wipes the smile off most of their faces and it looks like they fill their pants at times to!
 
I'm on the opposite side, my terrier bitch is not very well socialised but she is getting better!!! She is very nervous and territorial and her particular hates are golden labs. I bring her everywhere with me now and she is always on a lead.

It would annoy me if I had her on a lead and another dog who was loose came up to her and started to worry and snarl and bark and the owner did nothing about it as I am doing my best with my dog why shouldn't others. So I understand where both sides are coming from.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Your situation was different though, if the cairn was on its own territory then it was more understandable, if not really excusable. I think you said Lily had a few "sharp words" with Zarno when you had him, and you accepted that she was just letting him know it was her home.
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No the Carin wasn't on her own territory at the time, well I take territory to mean house and garden, not the term territory as in where the dog usually walks etc!

If you were out walking your 2 and they were attacked by a bigger dog I think you would understandably be less inclined to chalk it up to dogs being dogs.
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Nope, I would only NOT chalk it up to dogs being dogs if the owner knew full well their dog was aggressive. If a normally friendly dog and mine had a altercation (whatever size oponent) if the dog was usually nice I don't know how any dog owner can lambast another dog owner for what? Not reading their dogs mind? Sorry I must be getting a bit soft and free love lately! :D
 
Good heavens, how this thread has grown :D I would completely agree with the comments about loose dogs/dogs on leads, it is a really difficult situation and I get really hacked off with people who let their dogs come up and bother mine when they are on the lead :mad:

In this case all dogs involved were off the lead, and as I said the other dogs attacked mine without any provocation whatsoever :mad:

Takes all sorts I suppose :)
 
CareyR said:
I get really hacked off with people who let their dogs come up and bother mine when they are on the lead :mad:
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This is my issue-if you have your dog on the lead, then they should recall theirs-common sense. I'm sick of mine being attacked while on the lead-another one did it today-dog was with OH who is big and scary and shoved the other dog away (chocolate lab, off the lead, owner with two small kids in a pushchair who had zero control, obviously). The owner apologised, but that's a fat lot of use if her dog had pulled out Brig's staples-he's on the lead for a REASON!:mad:
 
I always recall mine when another dog is on the lead and there's no escape route. Most of my walking is great open spaces, so 9/10 I can just call them away and they don't go near the other dog. However if we're head on, back on the lead they go.
 
Kitsune said:
I always recall mine when another dog is on the lead and there's no escape route. Most of my walking is great open spaces, so 9/10 I can just call them away and they don't go near the other dog. However if we're head on, back on the lead they go.
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Then you can come and walk with the spangle pack anytime! We walk in woods, loads of room, massive wide paths, yet still other owners insist on heading straight for us without getting their dogs back.:mad:
 
I know exactly how you feel OP. I always have mine on the lead unless im in an area where I can see people coming, it winds me up when other people moan that my dog is attacking theirs when mine is the one on the lead!!
 
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