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i love parelli i have been doing it with both of my ponies and have started to really notice the benefit!!but what are everyone elses opinion??dop you think it is just a laod of circus tricks or do you believe it is actually beneficial??be brutal i don't mind. =] ella xox
 
couldnt agree more.. saw a Parelli programme a couple of nights ago and wasnt overly impressed with some methods..especially with a foal.
 
Its expensive because they want to make lots and lots of money no other reason. True horsemanship comes from knowledge, understanding and an empathy with a horse - not from spending ££££ on a dvd and an overpriced halter etc!
 
Rubbish.

No I havnt tried it, I have good enough relationships with my horses that I have no need to take time out from what I am teaching them to play 'games'...
 
Been watching the programmes and I have to admit I just don't get it. all seems like common sense to me, and TBH if I wafted what is in effect a schooling whip against my pony's face I'm sure he'd bend away from it pretty darn quickly.

I don't need my pony to be able to walk sideways across a load of barrels, and we have a really good bond and relationship, so I won't be doing any parelli...
 
I think certain aspects of it may work with certain horses/ ponies but there are also aspects/ methods I have seen that I am a bit dubious about (on the TV show), where the horses have just looked pretty confused.
I don't feel any need to send Min sideways across barrels, get him to stand on podium or bridle him from a chair, but each to their own.
As for the merchandise- imported or not, its vastly over priced IMO.
 
I saw Kelly Marks a few years ago & to be honest I wasn't impressed. I saw her use one of parelli's halters on a horse that wouldn't load. She got him in.....but I looked at the horse afterwards. The 'Be Nice' halter was so nice to the horse it left a huge divot in it's nose
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. It is designed to look gentle but it is far from that. Parelli...slick marketing...money making venture.....not for me thanks
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To be honest...If Parelli was giving a free show outside my house....I'd probably draw the curtains
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Pro-parelli - a friend does it with our horse and he LOVES it. Another fun thing that people do with him.
More usefully, at shows or prior to loading he occasionally forgets his manner and becomes over-excited and bargy. Last week this happened and she immediately went back to basics on parelli groundwork, asking him to respect her space. Ten minutes later he was back to calmly standing while we put to. If it works, I am for it!
 
Parelli don't use Be Nice halters, or any sort of pressure halter that closes. Kelly Marks does, she used to use the Be Nice and now uses the Dually. Kelly Marks has nothing to do with Parelli and I know she is very, very happy about that. (Possibly Parelli are as well, who knows?).
Here's a Be Nice halter
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=2e87bf48-7b6a-11d5-a192-
Knowing the damage a Be Nice halter can inflict, I'm rather sad that I found this one recommended by vets.
And here's a simple rope halter, of the same style that Parelli uses. http://www.freewebs.com/lodgeropes/ropehalters.htm
I've deliberately linked to a rope halter sold by someone who is nothing to do with Parelli, as many people in the UK associate rope halters with Parelli only, and that's rather like associating headcollars only with the BHS.
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Sorry but don't agree with you about the Parelli halters not being a pressure halter. They have knots tied in strategic places and are razor thin too. Definitely not my cup of tea. Nor are the huge clips which bash the horse's faces as you progress up the Levels something I need on any of my ropes either. And all that bo**ocks about they only hurt themselves on the clips by walking into them doesn't sit comfortably either.

I am sure there are some good Parelli'd horses out there but I am yet to meet one. Actually went to two demos first before making my mind up, and hated every single one. Couldn't see what people were raving on about, all I saw was horses doing things which people might have thought looked good but the horses were tight, anxious, lots of tail swishing, ears back etc going on. Not the soft relaxed look that I like from my horses at all.

BTW if nobody had guessed I don't like Parelli!
 
re: tail swishing, ears back etc... this is the bit i don't understand. i went to the big Parelli conference with the lady in the elec wheelchair working the 2 friesians at liberty. they stayed with her, they obeyed all the commands, looking thoroughly p***ed off the whole time, ears flat back, tails swishing. why didn't they just zoom off? i really don't get it.
 
Because they get walloped/chased round with the "carrot stick" etc etc until they conform. They don't want to be with that person but are too scared not to be if that makes sense.

I wonder how many horses who are over Parelli'd or not Parelli'd the right way end up turning on their owners?

And to anyone who practises Parelli, does it well and has happy soft horses I genuinely don't mean to cause any offence with my posts. It is just that I personally have not seen any, but not saying they are not out there.
 
well thanku for that last comment.i wish you could see my horse i rescued him and he was aggresive and he dragged my mum along the floor,there are different aggression levels with parelli and personally i don't like them so i use a softer approach and use the parelli but calm it down make the movements slower and larger so like slow motion exageration lol.and he is a poppet and we love him to bits now and he wouldn't ever dream of dragging my mum along the floor now!! =]
 
Hmm. My tb rescue came from someone who Parelli'd all the time and she has taken nearly a year to get back to "normal". Those stupid carrot sticks are the biggest waste of time ever. She was going to be delivered to mine but they couldn't get her into the horsebox because they had messed around with that carrot stick, flicking her and generally p*ssing her right off.

We went along, and with a bit of common sense calm loading, and two people walking behind her with a gate, she thought about it for a while then just walked in. And I don't pretend to be Monty Roberts.

From my (admittedly limited) experience of Parelli, its a load of rubbish and I think people would be better off reading around and using a bit of common sense sometimes. Maybe it works in the right hands but how many people out there are doing it wrong?
 
No problem Ellz, it is great to hear a success story like yours. And that you were kind enough and thoughtful enough to your horse to work in a way which clearly suited you both, without the need to keep upping and upping the pressure. It is like any training method, take the good bits and leave the bad bits behind. Well done to you, and delighted that you rescue horse has done so well.
 
i aggree in the wrong hands it cna be fatal but if you do it right it works (from what i've done) and personally i don't approve of the carrot sticks because i feel that they are the same type of thing as a lunge whip. =] and i don't use abe nice i use a plain rope halter and my horses know the difference between when i want to work them om the pessoa or ride them and when i want have a play with them and do some parelli so they wear a headcollar normally but they realise when i want to do parelli we put the rope halter and long white rope on.
 
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Sorry but don't agree with you about the Parelli halters not being a pressure halter. They have knots tied in strategic places and are razor thin too. Definitely not my cup of tea. Nor are the huge clips which bash the horse's faces as you progress up the Levels something I need on any of my ropes either. And all that bo**ocks about they only hurt themselves on the clips by walking into them doesn't sit comfortably either.


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That might be considered a load of bo**ocks too, but I'd be too polite to say so. I'd just assume you don't realise that rope halters aren't unique to Parelli, so just because you see someone with a rope halter, don't assume they are working up any Parelli levels. Surely you realise that many people who use rope halters have nothing to do with Parelli training, and in fact don't use any clip on the leadrope at all? If you compare a razor and a rope halter I think it won't be rocket science to see that they are slightly different in thickness... and if you read on the Lodge Ropes site you will see that they, who make rope halters, can find no evidence to support they myth that the knots are in any sort of strategic place at all.
I agree, Parelli isn't all that great, and please don't tar everyone who uses a particular sort of horse headgear with that training method.
 
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have you ever tried it though??the stuff is expensive because it is often imported.x

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Why do they need to import some rope and a carrot stick? I could make them here in my living room for a fraction of the price.
 
Oh yes, I'm sure you could! All you need to do is buy a big ranch in Colorado, write and video a programme and get it manufactured, fly the world with and without horses and then add little leather bits to your halter with your own trademark on them.
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cant stand it saw it on tv last night and those horses looked so bored also a woman at the yard who does it and her horse looks so bored, plus why do they insist on taking a stick with a carrot bag every where not helpful when tryinbg to work my baby
 
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