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I don't actually understand what it is - just sounds like nonsense to me.

Is it for people who can't ride to feel like they are doing something with their horses?
 
There are LOADS of VERY long threads on here about Parelli. Run a search or do some online research if you don't know what it is. And as to nonsense, there are parts of it, just like every single other type of training, that are decent and do make sense and then there's some of it that doesn't.
 
Personally I agree with you, I don't ride but I would rather lunge/longrein/free school rather than parelli but some people find it fun / useful.
 
padderpaws said:
dosymare by name dosymare by nature.
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How rude?!

I'm not judging what Parelli is until I understand - maybe you should do the same.

I have googled the Pat Parelli site and other than teaching the trainer not the horse I don't understand what it is. I require layman terms.
Is it the same at natural horseman Monty Roberts and there work.

My last sentence was regarding a thread I had read on here - it was a question not a statement.
 
padderpaws said:
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DosyMare said:
How rude?!
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It was a little rude but I admit I actually laugh out loud at Padderpaws comment!

I'm not judging what Parelli is until I understand - maybe you should do the same.
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You did judge. You said it sounds like nonsense to you! Probably best doing more research if you are genuinely interested (there are PLENTY of explanations of what it is online), rather than have yet another thread running here about it :confused:
 
IME from judging the few on my rather large yard, you get people who have come across Parelli because they had problems (and still have problems) with a naughty horse. You have those (three) that are too scared to ride their horses. You have the one who has an injured horse. You have the one who tried it on her young horse then went to traditional methods. I've used it for loading a difficult horse.

So 50% too scared :p
 
Maybe I should start a thread titled "Le Trec" and say

"I don't actually understand what it is - just sounds like nonsense to me.

Is it for people who don't do SJ or dressage to feel like they are doing something with their horses?"

I mean... really! :rolleyes:

(P.S. ... and I don't even like Parelli!)
 
It's not my cuppa tea (I'm with the "take what seems right for your horse from different approaches and views" school of thought) but the only two people I know who do it/have done it, do ride their horses and one used it to back her difficult mare (difficult before she started the parelli, less difficult afterwards) and now has loads of fun riding her.
Each to their own.
 
You did judge. You said it sounds like nonsense to you! Probably best doing more research if you are genuinely interested (there are PLENTY of explanations of what it is online), rather than have yet another thread running here about it :confused:
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I can't delete the thread now. I didn't realise how defensive people are regarding it. I do not understand it and therefore it does come across as nonsense to me - but it wasn't a rude insult.

Are there any successful competition horses out there where the riders/trainers are using the methods to get results?

I understand Monty Robert natural horsemanship - is it the same.
 
fburton said:
Maybe I should start a thread titled "Le Trec" and say

"I don't actually understand what it is - just sounds like nonsense to me.

Is it for people who don't do SJ or dressage to feel like they are doing something with their horses?"

I mean... really! :rolleyes:

(P.S. ... and I don't even like Parelli!)
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It is isn't it.....

Only joking :)
 
Last comment from me as I'd rather see this thread buried :rolleyes: but there's no defensiveness coming from anyone that I can see; just pointing out your glaring "I'm not judging" contradiction. I reiterate, run an online search if you are so interested in Parelli training and hopefully this thread will now die.
 
Spring Feather said:
Last comment from me as I'd rather see this thread buried :rolleyes: but there's no defensiveness coming from anyone that I can see; just pointing out your glaring "I'm not judging" contradiction. I reiterate, run an online search if you are so interested in Parelli training and hopefully this thread will now die.
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Amen. DosyMare (nice name, really :) ) - you'll get a pretty good idea of what a broad range of people think of Parelli (and why) if you search for previous threads on this forum (with Parelli in the title, using Advanced Search). For example:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=484971

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=499556

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=534912

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=482858

There are many other threads, but these should at least give you a flavour and some nitty gritty.

ETA: Here's the list of threads I got in my search (not sure how long it'll work for)...
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/search.php?searchid=7722196
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parelli_Natural_Horsemanship - Wikipedia had some answers.

I just found the threads already on here don't actually explain what it is. Just who is for and against and refer to things I don't understand.

I've now watched a few you tube videos and read the methods on the Parelli site. But I guess you need to buy the book or DVD to understand how and why and theory.

I think I'll stick with Monty Roberts methods and I would like to think that my horses have no reason to fear me and we already have a great bond and trust without fear.
 
I backed my youngster using the parelli methods, and he has turned out fine, I wouldn't stick strictly to those methods tho and am open to other methods. I know many people who have had genuinely good results using parelli. The method is not based on fear. Some people do make assumptions about it but the same can be said for traditional methods from the outside it looks like suppression is used as the horses seem to be tied together with tack, that may or may not be the case but its each to their own. I find mostly the negative comments are aimed at the advertising and selling of the programme and the fact that pat and linda are annoying which is not really to do with the methods. Everyone has their own opinions on training and dealing with horses and what works for one might not work for another.
 
Parelli, is just a brand name of Natural Horsemanship. If people are into Natural Horsemanship, Parelli is in there somewhere.
Parelli himself is a student of Ray Hunt, Tom and Bill Dorance to name but two of the original people who popularized this very old method of training.

I've been training horses using these methods for twenty odd years and for me, it's the only way to go.

A bit like barefoot really, we get horses to train when all else fails, but that's the nature of things.

Basically, I don't give a tinkers what people's opinions about it are, I just look at their horses or read about their problems.
 
jeeve said:
I have two excellent PNH trained instructors nearby, they have helped me a lot. NH is just good horsemanship, have a look at their websites, I wish there was more video footage, so hard to see what they are capable of


http://www.markrodney.com.au/Horsemanship_Australia/Welcome.html

http://www.naturalequestrian.com.au/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTRIKgPgCHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahNP1rl5Irw
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Thank you. I really like the Rodney site and video. They do not use the word Parelli at all.

Thanks Pale Rider - for explaining more.
 
DosyMare said:
Thank you. I really like the Rodney site and video. They do not use the word Parelli at all.

Thanks Pale Rider - for explaining more.
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Debbie & Mark trained to level 3 instructors and were instructors with Pat for probably 10 years each, but they now teach natural horsemanship, under their own banner, and have adapted it.

Mark started my horses for me.
 
I think it is difficult to judge Parelli NH ( well, not for me, but then I'm an opinionated old bat, who is stuck in the mists of time, with " in MY day, we ..." as default mode). Like the art of effective bitting - bits are as effective as the hands at the end of the reins. Useful in some situations, and very oppressive and cruel in others. My views are based on watching quite a number of videos of Mr and/or Mrs Parelli demonstrating their methods, and being on yards with Parelli afficionados, whose behaviour and horse management left a lot to be desired, imo.
My main dislike of the Parelli method is the marketing hype, the Messianic zeal which insists that without their gadgets - invariably hideously expensive - the enterprise is Doomed!
 
Saw a "carrot stick" for the first time last night. then felt compelled to youtube a video where the lady doing "natural horsemanship" was riding and using the stick on the horses neck to turn then putting it right over her head to tap the horses rump to ask it to trot. WTF? Why is this so much better than using your legs? Also, saw a prog other night with Monty Roberts backing a young warmblood. Must say, was not impressed....... he also said about how lungeing is unnatural as you flick a lunge whip to encourage the horse.....then proceeded to fling his long line at the horse to make it go. Sorry, just dont get it. I know there are points that are good but I have a bond with my boy and i have not done any join up or chasing him with a long rope, etc.

It seems to me that Parelli and Roberts use their names for opportunities as opposed to anything else.
 
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