Pass him by.

Auslander said:
I have this theory. He doesn't have a horse, has never ridden a horse, and spends 23 hours a day sitting in the semi darkness in his underpants, eating cornflakes out of the packet, and trying to upset people on the internet
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lmao or I have a theory here is one of his horses http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marx-Thun...t=Vintage_Antique_Toys_US&hash=item5d47d598cf


or He has one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marx-toys...s_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item2a36a19831
 
That rhyme taught to me was:

One sock; buy it,
Two socks; try it,
Three socks; leave it,
Four socks; shoot it.

Obviously, I have followed this to the letter ever since.
 
Mrs B said:
That rhyme taught to me was:

One sock; buy it,
Two socks; try it,
Three socks; leave it,
Four socks; shoot it.

Obviously, I have followed this to the letter ever since.
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And I always wondered what the flipping heck you were meant to do with the horse with no socks?!
 
Mine are always going to be shod in the summer season assuming sound and in work so if I was to buy another already schooled one I'd be much more likely to leave it if it was unshod and without stud holes as it obviously wouldn't be on form! I competed Buddy unshod at national level as he came without shoes and I wouldn't put them on anything not needing them but don't think he could have done advanced speeds unshod.
 
When I grew up it was

Four white feet, keep him not a day
Three white feet, send him far away
Two white feet, give him to a friend
One white foot, keep him to the end

but one version has Pass him by for the 4 feet

I guess that's another thread, what one thing would make you pass a horse by
 
criso said:
When I grew up it was

Four white feet, keep him not a day
Three white feet, send him far away
Two white feet, give him to a friend
One white foot, keep him to the end

but one version has Pass him by for the 4 feet

I guess that's another thread, what one thing would make you pass a horse by
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Mine's got three whites, and if I sent him further than about 10 miles, he'd be crippled!
 
criso said:
When I grew up it was

Four white feet, keep him not a day
Three white feet, send him far away
Two white feet, give him to a friend
One white foot, keep him to the end

but one version has Pass him by for the 4 feet

I guess that's another thread, what one thing would make you pass a horse by
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^ this is the one i know too
 
Mrs B said:
Oh Gawd! Don't encourage him! He already has an inbuilt superiority complex about how to keep a horse and a Tourette-like habit of yelling 'Barefoot' at odd moments... ;)
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*snort*

PR is FOREVER starting these threads then NEVER contributes further to them, but just watches, I presume, in hopes that everyone will argue. It's a bit silly, but then I suppose these posts do provide a bit of light relief.

lastchancer said:
He must have a very,very high horse lol
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I know a way it could be half an inch higher....;) :D

ETA I don't shoe my horse in winter as he does bob all on the roads and I'd rather not spend the cash. However I don't feel the need to tell everyone I meet that they should be doing the same.
 
There is also "proof" on the internet that we are all going to leave on a comet and live in interstellar space, doesn't make it true.
 
I agree zigzag. I just like shoes on my horse. It looks nice with the standing martingale, running martingale, breastplate, side reins, draw reins and tendon boots that I ride her in.
 
I agree to a certain extent with PR. I have no need to shoe a horse these days, we don't event and everything we do is perfectly suited to unshod horses, including jumping and road work.
Although I wouldn't discount buying a shod horse, it would be something for consideration. The feet are the most important thing for me. If legs and feet aren't good, there's no point in looking any higher.

Last horse I bought was a shod show jumper but the shoes came off after purchase and she adapted straight away.

My only definite no-no when buying a horse, is a former very obese rider/owner. Wouldn't go there.
 
undergroundoli said:
That sounds really interesting LRR, although I have an irresistible urge to be the annoying one who points out horses are not indigenous to Australia.

It would be fascinating to extend the study to include herds that have been running wild for centuries.
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fair point...but where did the brumbies descend from...escaped horses from european settlers. i t would be interesting to do a study in the uK
 
LittleRocketRider said:
um actually..nothing against unshod...but those who rave about the "natural way" are technically incorrect as there is no one true "natural" shape/structure to a horses hoof...as proven by an australian government commisioned study in to the health of the hooves of wild horses in 2011. the study included 14 different herds, ranging from 12 to 100 head in a variety of environments (eg sandy, grassland, rocky etc.) the variety in hoof structure was immense literally no two horses had the same hooves...plus in this study they only found ONE near-fore that was not suffering from any form of ailments and was sound... i can't remember the exact numbers off the top of my head but the vast majority (and i'm talking towards 90 %) were found to of suffered with chronic laminitis. among other things this study concluded that the hoof of the wild horse was not a model fo domesticated equines.

by all means go barefoot..its your choice but please don't discredit a horse because it has been shod and don't claim that what your doing is true to their "natural" state

just to add every horse is different so i will choose to shoe or not shoe as seems to suit each particular horse i own best
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The external hoof shape may well have varied but I think they all still had the same fundamental structure!
The signs of laminitis found (many microscopic btw) are worrying and imho have implications for our use and managemenet of horses! The little I know of the study raises more questions than it answers. I agree the fact it is Aus may be relevant as I believe their soils are very wacky on the mineral front. Don't think any of the horses grew shoes though!

ps. The varying hoof shape has implications for trimming and shoeing to our ideals.
 
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I suppose if unshod is the norm where the OP lives it is likely that horses in that area have good feet, if it works for him fair play but I don't think it is or will be the norm in the UK. I am neither for or against BF but am a strong believer of doing your own thing without preaching to others.
 
TBF, I don't think PR is preaching to anyone, just expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. Everyone else has.


I'm all for the middle camp of owners asking themselves why their horse needs shoes and could they manage without either all the time or some of the time.
 
My horse DOES need shoes. He has good feet, even though a TB, and if we went barefoot he probably would cope fine to an extent, but our problem is that we do LOADS of roadwork. As in about 90% or our hacking is roadwork. We're decreasing our shoeing time from 8 weeks to 5 as he is wearing shoes to razors super quick. Can you imagine if that was his feet? Whilst good quality horn and hard, they don't grow very quick - and I could see them wearing to nothing with the amount of roadwork we do.

Whether a horse has shoes or not doesn't affect my judgement, but each to their own - for me, barefoot isn;t important itself, it's how my horses go, and if they need shoes, then they need shoes.
 
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