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Anyone see the photos of that poor little bald puppy, that some S**t had been kicking around in a cardboard box? Had me in tears.
 
Yes, I did :( I love Paul OGrady and always watch this although I do find it upsetting and could never work somewhere like Battersea, I would be a complete blubbering wreck. Have absolutely no time for people who treat animals like this, Im not sure what the answer is but its completely heartbreaking, especially when you see the trust the dogs still have.
 
I am really glad that I am not alone I love the program I have no idea how people can do such things I hope karma comes bites them in the butt soon thou :D:D am I allowed to say Butt??
 
I just see the programme as a wasted opportunity to educate people, to make them think twice before taking on a pet, the young man who gave up his dog because of a change in circumstances, he was un-emplyed and now has a job, didnt it occur to him before getting the dog that he might find a job?
That dog was re-homed from Battersea but so many others going into rescue are heading being put to sleep as there are just too many in rescue.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I just see the programme as a wasted opportunity to educate people, to make them think twice before taking on a pet, the young man who gave up his dog because of a change in circumstances, he was un-emplyed and now has a job, didnt it occur to him before getting the dog that he might find a job?
That dog was re-homed from Battersea but so many others going into rescue are heading being put to sleep as there are just too many in rescue.
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Sort of agree. On one hand I think its brilliant that peoples eyes are being opened about how badly dogs can be treated, but on the other I wish they would also emphasise, REALLY strongly that the dogs that make it to Battersea are the lucky ones and there are a vast number around the country who don't make it out of the pounds and end up as just another statistic on the PTS list.
 
I've only watched snatches of it but I do remember a young woman dressed to the nines, wanting for nothing, with a little handbag dog she had treated like a baby and totally spoiled and had developed a habit for biting. She came to BDH, dropped it off, cried a bit, walked away and let the staff do all the rehabilitating (like they don't have enough to do).

She was hugged, she was supported and not one person, including Mr O'Grady, said 'hang on a mo love, you've made a bit of a Horlicks of this dog, why don't you get a behaviourist or a trainer or if you cannot be bothered with that, you know what the issue is, why not keep it under strict control and never let a situation develop where the dog might bite someone, rather than getting shot of it'?

I'd also prefer that the public were shown a council pound, where dogs are not cared for and fed for the rest of their natural, but are PTS after a week if they are not rehomed or reclaimed, might make people think twice about giving up their pet and walking away believing that it will get 'a nice home in the country'.

Whoops, rant over :o
 
Battersea is technically a council pound, is it not? A world away from some others of course.

The pound that takes in the stray dogs from our area has 80 dogs in at present - they have a no-kill policy. The longest stayer has been there for eight years. :(
 
We fostered a death row GSD from a rescue with a no kill policy, once ground rules were established, our elderly, very aggressive dog posed few problems.
3yrs on, he developed issues, pooing as he walked, welcoming people one minute, attacking them the next. Vet couldn't examine him without sedation, but agreed with me that it was time to let him go, (possible brain tumour).
The rescue suggested putting him back in kennels, no way, it would have killed this dog, vet and I agreed that if necessary, I would take him to another practise to have him pts. Eventually we convinced the rescue it was for the best and the deed was done with dignity.
There are worse things than death, but nothing worse than disposable animals.
RIP Kaiser, know that you were loved
 
I see your point CC, but having met one of the OH's fan club (little old ladies!) in the woods today, she mentioned BDH and how she saw the programme and might pop along there to rescue because her local pound is full of staffies and she wants a small dog. I think it's a clever publicity stunt, but hey, why not? I've met several BDH rescues, the most recent being a long legged staffie who is adored by her slightly mad owner! I would probably visit if we fancied another.

I admit, it was heartbreaking watching that lurcher puppy cuddling in to the owner, falling asleep on him then the idiot handing him over. :( People still think of dogs as a disposable commodity, it makes me sick. The programme could definitely be more educational. :)
 
I get cross when they appear not to point out to people that dogs shouldn't just be handed over when they become hard work. The one that got me was in the last series, a little old terrier whose elderly owner handed her in because she supposedly wasn't able to walk the dog , and was then shown marching away in a very spritely fashion, with her poor little dog straining to follow her. :( But we can only hope that people like her, and the lad with the lurcher and the girl with the snappy chi maybe do get some grief from people they know who have seen the programme and realised how callous they are.
Both the council pound bc refers to, and the one in my part of the county, do operate a no kill, but I think the council only pay for the dogs for a week or so, then it is up to the people who run the kennels to take on responsibility and costs, which is why they are always fund raising.
 
I think that the program does educate in a very subtle way. Any stronger, and people would turn off because they don't want to be lectured. POG and this program has done a wonderful job of changing peoples misconceptions about Staffies. As a result of this series, over 900+ Staffies have been adopted that would otherwise have been stuck in kennels this last year.
If anyone on here thinks the format of the show should be changed, I'm sure the producers would be interested in hearing from you, and the reasons why and what you hope to achieve.
 
Superhot said:
I think that the program does educate in a very subtle way. Any stronger, and people would turn off because they don't want to be lectured. POG and this program has done a wonderful job of changing peoples misconceptions about Staffies. As a result of this series, over 900+ Staffies have been adopted that would otherwise have been stuck in kennels this last year.
If anyone on here thinks the format of the show should be changed, I'm sure the producers would be interested in hearing from you, and the reasons why and what you hope to achieve.
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Well it was so subtle it went right over my head:rolleyes::D, the general public dont do subtle and while it might have help raise the profile of Staffies this programme cant take credit for that.

What got me was the blatant way the handing over of dogs into Battersea with no consequences just lots of support and hugs, what message does that send out to the public, it rather supports the throw away society we live in but its alright to do it because Ive seen it on the telly.:mad:

Whilst I wouldnt want them to be heavy handed and hand out a stern lecture I think as others have said even if it was out of earshot of the owner they could of pointed out what help they owner could have found. If they went over the top with this they run the risk of the dog being abandoned or advertised for free on Gumtree.
 
So you would have preferred seeing a man who had made the difficult decision to give up his dog, directly into the care of those who would look after it and rehome it, being slagged off in the background because there were alternative actions he could have taken???? Personally, I think it takes a very brave person to give up an animal for genuine reasons, and to do it on camera especially. The usual alternative action these days is simply to abandon the animal. Far better to encourage people to give the pet up properly than simply dump surely??? As in the dog tied to the electric gates the other week..
In a perfect world, people would think far more before taking on any sort of pet, it is for life after all. In a perfect world, people would also do far more research into the sort of pet they want, and find decent breeders instead of going to puppy farmers. BUT, we live in a selfish, must have now world, and damn the consequences, someone else will always clear up the mess we leave. Throw away society for sure. How are we going to turn this way of life around, to become a careful, kind and considerate society??? I wish I knew...
 
Superhot said:
So you would have preferred seeing a man who had made the difficult decision to give up his dog, directly into the care of those who would look after it and rehome it, being slagged off in the background because there were alternative actions he could have taken???? Personally, I think it takes a very brave person to give up an animal for genuine reasons, and to do it on camera especially. The usual alternative action these days is simply to abandon the animal. Far better to encourage people to give the pet up properly than simply dump surely??? As in the dog tied to the electric gates the other week..
In a perfect world, people would think far more before taking on any sort of pet, it is for life after all. In a perfect world, people would also do far more research into the sort of pet they want, and find decent breeders instead of going to puppy farmers. BUT, we live in a selfish, must have now world, and damn the consequences, someone else will always clear up the mess we leave. Throw away society for sure. How are we going to turn this way of life around, to become a careful, kind and considerate society??? I wish I knew...
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Wow youve got a bee in your bonnet:D Who said anything about slagging him off, I was suggesting they could have discussed the alternatives and also why its so important that people have an animal for the right reasons and a duty of care which includes working through any issues.

Ive already said why they shouldnt be heavy handed and as for people handing dogs in for genuine reasons I think you will find these are few and far between as other rescues will Im sure agree. You only have to look on preloved,gumtree etc to see the reasons people get rid of their dogs so handing them into rescue if they can get a place that is would be the same excuses, sorry reasons.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Both the council pound bc refers to, and the one in my part of the county, do operate a no kill, but I think the council only pay for the dogs for a week or so, then it is up to the people who run the kennels to take on responsibility and costs, which is why they are always fund raising.
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Ours is very good in that respect, so long as the dog is 'salvageable' (horrid but apt term!) they ask us to administer any treatment needed, they pay upfront and then claim it back from the council in that first week. After that they fundraise and have deals with local vets. If the dog can go on to a happy healthy life they give it every chance. :)

The RSPCA are a shower of effluence by comparison, they won't take in stray animals or authorise any treatment over about £40/50 and just tell us to put it to sleep. Then won't pay up for the cost of euthanasia. There's more than one happy healthy three-legged cat out there that one of our soft vets has amputated for free and rehomed when the RSPCA would have them euthanised. They get Christmas cards from one of them. :p
 
It is. Everyone I've dealt with there is great, extremely helpful and passionate about what they do but my only criticism is that they still have the no garden rule for rehoming, I approached them pre-D and it was a flat no. Understandable but frustrating!

They have a stand at the Dogs Trust open day this Sunday coming. :)

Little grey kitten has discovered the joy of sofas and laps. I'm threatening them with a puppy next. :p
 
I do usually love reading through this board but this has got me a bit wound up! I also watch this program every week and agree that there should be a bit more emphasis on what is needed to look after a dog adequately. But that guy that gave up his lurcher did the RIGHT thing!! If he was someone who had come on here and said that he'd got this job now and had to leave his puppy at home the whole day etc etc, there would be most of the board jumping down his throat immediately saying that he shouldn't have the dog. Now I agree, he shouldn't have got the dog in the first place... however he did and then had to deal with the situation. So we have option a. leave a very young pup at home all day or b. hand it in somewhere where you KNOW it will be well looked after and placed with someone who is in a position to give it the care and attention it needs.

And he did state clearly that he wasn't aware of the amount of time and care a dog needs and he was clearly heartbroken to have to leave Archie there. If that's not a warning to anyone with half a braincell I don't know what is. And those without half a braincell, well they won't listen to even the sternest warning.

On another note... how lovely was Egg/Grady? To be so badly neglected and still have that much love, joy and affection to share is just amazing. Gorgeous dog!! :)
 
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