people please.........

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one of the arguments that came up in the literature was that computers ...[]...has made people struggle more with spelling. Even with a spell check it always pays to proof read.


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Indeed it does pay to proof read.
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I don't. That type of language is so alien to me I'm afraid; that's probably why I often do not understand many Scots.
 
Eh, language is organic. Nothing new there. We'll all survive.
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The "conformation" vs "confirmation" one is funny/annoying though because of what the words mean. I don't think it usually is a simple spelling mistake, more confusion between what the two words mean and not quite open to the same excuse. Conformation is the "form" of the horse so it's not that hard to keep straight. Using confirmation does make for some good responses though, rather like "lounging" for "longeing".
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I dont care either usually but the conformation/confirmation thing really bugs me
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doesnt bother me as long as i get the general flow of the thread i have no prob with it!!! seems odd to have such a huge thread about 'spelling' think there is more in the world to worry about than chuffin spellin!!!!
 
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Maybe someone could start teaching forum english lessons and give out lots of homework.

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Excellent idea, perhaps a little lenient on persistent offenders.

I would support a more radical approach...

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Maybe someone could start teaching forum english lessons and give out lots of homework.

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Excellent idea, perhaps a little lenient on persistant offenders.

I would support a more radical approach...


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I think the point is that so long as you can understand the basic meaning of a post there's no big issue. When it comes down to having to read and re-read a post because someone cannot be bothered to use full stops, commas, capital letters etc, that's when people get irritated. Like I said, if I can't understand a post then I don't reply. However, I don't specifically recall ignoring a post from anyone who has made the occasional error; more importantly, I don't ever remember lambasting them for one or two errors. Yee gads, some of the time I might not even notice!

As has been said over and over again on this thread: every single person, whether they are a teacher, doctor or shop cleaner, makes mistakes with spelling and grammar. Sometimes people make mistakes through ignorance, sometimes people don't proof read because of lack of inclination/time and sometimes people just genuinely believe that is the correct way to spell something. As has also been said, everyone speaks differently and, therefore, pronounces words differently, which can open them up to making mistakes that others of us would not make (hence confirmation V conformation).

There ain't none of us perfick, much as we like to try (and I do try because it does annoy me to get things like that wrong). There's a world of difference between the odd mistake here and there, and not being able to understand a single word!
 
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I don't know what you're talking about Shils.. From where did you find that quote?!

Damn you!
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I agree - hanging is too good for people who persistently can't spell.
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Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, but yes - I agree with you. Spelling and punctuation are basically polite; they make words conform (see what I did there?) and make it easier to read and understand what is written. Just because 'it's only a forum' is no reason not to bother spelling things correctly.
 
I would not like to say that everyone should be able to spell perfectly or not bother to post...... Any more than people should be told to ride perfectly or not bother to ride..

Has it crossed your mind that people are not spelling badly to piss you off...... it could be, as has been shown in this post, that they really think that this is how you spell a particular word.

I think that it is not up to a forum to educate people.... that is what school was for..... People come on here to enjoy themselves and not to be corrected.

Not everyone had the oportunity to go to a good school, there are some out there which let children leave without the basics in place..... let alone perfection
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OP..... think yourself lucky
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Read my signature, I am not going to give excuses/reasons for my innadequate spelling ( I certainly do not want to be accused of pulling any sort of disability card! ) I agree that if the spelling alters the meaning then it is a problem, but I would be very sorry if the only people who were allowed to post were those whose spelling was perfect, in fact this thread would be only half as long as it is
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I would not like to say that everyone should be able to spell perfectly or not bother to post...... Any more than people should be told to ride perfectly or not bother to ride..

Has it crossed your mind that people are not spelling badly to piss you off...... it could be, as has been shown in this post, that they really think that this is how you spell a particular word.

I think that it is not up to a forum to educate people.... that is what school was for..... People come on here to enjoy themselves and not to be corrected.

Not everyone had the oportunity to go to a good school, there are some out there which let children leave without the basics in place..... let alone perfection
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Hang on a minute, how can some of you say you find it so annoying that people spell a few words wrong, do you all know the entire contents of a dictionary, i doubt it! Some people make spelling mistakes on some words, so what! It isn't their fault and they shouldn't have to spell check everything they post, that is just ridiculous.
 
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spelling isn't stupid - I wouldn't be proud about an inability to spell correctly - its one of the things that I find slightly annoying as well and I find it a matter of personal pride to post with correct spelling, although obviously I do make mistakes, albeit seldom
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arrgh yow kin pishoff aswel mooning minnies, got nofink beta two du
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PMSL i completely understood that!
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Well said MH!

I can't see what harm there is in the OP pointing out a few of the most common (and most irritating) spelling errors on this forum.

Surely most people would prefer to know, and use, the correct spelling of words such as 'conformation'?

Surely most people know that one gets taken more seriously, on a forum or anywhere else, if one uses correct spelling and grammar?

(A good way to remember the correct spelling of 'conformation' is to remind oneself that it has to do with the 'form' of the horse - the horse's shape and structure.)
 
I think most of us know that conform and confirm are very different things but occasionally type it wrong without realising. My spelling and grammer isn't bad but i find it out of line for people to constantly correct people. Obviously, I see no reason for a post like this, does it not occur to some of you and of course the original poster that some people may be offended and embarassed because of this post?

Sorry to those of you who might find an error in my post!
 
Anyone think it's rather amusing how nearly every post on this thread has every first person in the upper case (i.e. I not i) and lots of punctuation etc etc etc
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Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, but yes - I agree with you. Spelling and punctuation are basically polite; they make words conform (see what I did there?) and make it easier to read and understand what is written. Just because 'it's only a forum' is no reason not to bother spelling things correctly.

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I agree with Sooty, and I think the schools in this country are to blame.
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From what I understand, children these days are not penalised for spelling mistakes or grammatical errors in tests, essays etc., therefore they don't learn what's correct. After all, if nobody tells them it's wrong, how are they supposed to know better?
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I grew up in Germany, so English is not my first language, and EVERY mistake is pointed out to us, down to forgetting to dot an i, in both English and German lessons. I take pride in being able to use (fairly) correct spelling and grammar in both languages, so I take my time and read over what I have written before I post.
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I don't think anyone on here actually minds the odd spelling mistake, like mixed up/forgotten letters and such like, these happen to anyone. However, some people do seem to be too lazy to type out words in full, press the button that makes capital letters at the beginning of a sentence, or use punctuation and paragraphs when making longer posts.
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Oh, and just because no one has said it yet, and because it's the one that annoys me the most:
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It's laminitIs, lymphangitIs, cellulitIs etc.
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All inflammatory medical conditions end in ...itis, not ...itus, it's not that hard!
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Hang on a minute, how can some of you say you find it so annoying that people spell a few words wrong, do you all know the entire contents of a dictionary, i doubt it! Some people make spelling mistakes on some words, so what! It isn't their fault and they shouldn't have to spell check everything they post, that is just ridiculous.

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I'm not giving just my opinion here - it is a fact of life that those who spell correctly, and use proper punctuation and grammar, will get taken more seriously than those who do not. Bad spelling and grammar mark one out as uneducated. This may well be unfair, but it is the way things are.
 
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Hang on a minute, how can some of you say you find it so annoying that people spell a few words wrong, do you all know the entire contents of a dictionary, i doubt it! Some people make spelling mistakes on some words, so what! It isn't their fault and they shouldn't have to spell check everything they post, that is just ridiculous.

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I'm not giving just my opinion here - it is a fact of life that those who spell correctly, and use proper punctuation and grammar, will get taken more seriously than those who do not. Bad spelling and grammar mark one out as uneducated. This may well be unfair, but it is the way things are.

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That is a bit hypocritical, isn't your punctuation incorrect there. I was taught that you don't put ',' and 'and' next to each other, you put one or the other but you wrote 'it is a fact of life that those who spell correctly, and use proper punctuation and grammer.' I'm not trying to be over-critical of you but I'm trying to point out that even those who think they are correct and are annoyed by this make mistakes.
 
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I grew up in Germany, so English is not my first language, and EVERY mistake is pointed out to us, down to forgetting to dot an i, in both English and German lessons. I take pride in being able to use (fairly) correct spelling and grammar in both languages, so I take my time and read over what I have written before I post.
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Hey, how often do you see me correct any posts on here, aside from today, on this thread? I don't actually care, as long as I can understand them.
I'm only doing it today, to be evil to those on this thread who claim to be exemplary in their written English, oh, and to Shaab because it's fun
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I make mistakes too, lots of them. And I've taken the pi$$ out of myself too - my reference to vertebra/e was about a post I made earlier (draw reins) which I was too lazy to correct.
So there!
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

thats all i have to say on the subject.
 
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