Pervert caught after having sex with horses!

I don't want him castrated or locked up for life. He'd just be using up a prison space which would be much more useful for someone genuinely dangerous. I know someone is going to tell me that murderers often start with animals etc but as of now he doesn't appear to be an immediate threat to people so a short sentence and some re education sounds like a good start.

I know they were non consenting horses but, and please don't get offended, don't you think if they were that bothered they'd have just kicked him? He would have had to have been stood in a fairly compromising position after all.
 
sick & twisted....

& yes i too would have been equally as offended if it were a sheep! eek to anyone that thinks this is only slightly tainted :eek:
 
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This isn't as uncommon as you may think. I know of 2 incidents, one at a livery yard (got chucked off), then there was a guy at a local riding stables (lost his job). Horrible, would be very angry & after blood if it was done to my girls.
 
OMG Clyst St George isn't a huge way away from me; I've a cousin who lives near there, this is totally gross.

Feel sorry for the family tho' - not nice to discover your nearest and dearest is a pervey and has been for a while.

If he can do this to horses, or any animal in fact, then there's a good chance that he might be so inclined to try his luck with another human being, which isn't a pleasant thought if, like me, you're frequently in the yard after dark/late at night sometimes. Obviously "fake" security cameras didn't deter him, obviously there was a voyeuristic aspect to all of this as well.

Yuck, yuck, yuck, vomit, is all I can say .....
 
I note that all the posters above have taken the report at face value - indeed, I have heard of many others - but I still have my doubts - may be these guys get stimulated being near a horse but unless they are ( perish the thought ) endowed like a horse - how on earth do they "get it together" ? Might be just about possible with a small pony but my mare's bits were hidden by a considerable hindquarter - the mind boggles.

When I grew up "consenting adults" would be put in prison if they were caught as they too were regarded as sick in the head - nowadays we have "gay couples" getting married so whereas there's still a few of us old'uns who think they're all goin' t'burn in hell - don't go knocking marrying your horse because history lasts a long time!
 
It is well known that a very high % of sex offenders will not only continue even once they have been caught but actually increase the leavel to which they offend in order to get the same kick/satisfaction as they once had.

There is a very good book by a criminal psychologist called the Jigsaw Man who explained the history of quite a few high profile sex offenders. Most of them started out taking womens undies off washing lines then progressed to flashing then on to worse.

Some sex offenders in america have actually opted for chemical castration because they are unable to get there sexual urges under control.

The man has done wrong, fact, and as such has been given the max sentance available.

Would you be so understanding if this had happened to your horse? I wouldn't be.
 
JoJo_ said:
It is also not right to assume he has some mental problem and needs help imo. This guy might be completely sane but simply enjoys beastiality. You dont have to be mentally ill to do things that the majority of people thinks is 'wrong'.

I adore animals so much that I definitely would put this on a par with raping another human. Not like a horse can give it's consent. So yes I think a prison sentence is justifiable and I dont think 6months is long enough.
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This is nothing like as bad as raping a person, many rape victims suffer terrible anguish, I dont expect these horses will suffer long term mental health issues as a result of this.

If he was having sex with them I dont suppose he did any internal damage, unless hes got a very big willy.

I agree that he is a weird & a creep but as sexual offences go this is one of the more minor ones.
 
HighClassWhatevertherestis, from your post you sound like a person who has been about a fair time, without going into too much detail, if there's a hole. the knob will find it. Some blokes just aren't that fussy.
 
I know of someone whos pony was attacked and he was caught sent to prison ( not long enough ) he also attacked the owner that caught him he then came out and caused alot of trouble and threats he is one strange man.
 
Bloomin Christmas Again said:
HighClassWhatevertherestis, from your post you sound like a person who has been about a fair time, without going into too much detail, if there's a hole. the knob will find it. Some blokes just aren't that fussy.
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Er.....hmmm ( the embarassed face smiley won't work so that will have to do ) it's not that I don't believe there aren't such people about BCB but it just the practicallities of doing what they have supposed to have done - did this chap bring a couple of milk crates with him or a pair of steps?
 
Fairynuff said:
Sorry, Im not much good at the 'quote' thingy, but....
Are you saying that this guy is 'normal?'. Is a paedo 'normal?' What is 'normal?' Normal is what society has decided but within society there are the odd bods who don't conform to 'our' idea of normal. So, what do we do? Do we sentence all of them to hard labour and ridicule, or do we try to convince them that what they are doing is socially unacceptable?
Would you have been so outraged had it been a sheep?
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No i'm not saying he's normal. I'm saying he could very well be sane. He could know what he is doing is socially unacceptable and why it is etc. But he still chooses to do it. Now imo that means he should go to jail for choosing to break the law.
 
1stclassalan said:
Er.....hmmm ( the embarassed face smiley won't work so that will have to do ) it's not that I don't believe there aren't such people about BCB but it just the practicallities of doing what they have supposed to have done - did this chap bring a couple of milk crates with him or a pair of steps?
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Says in the article that he dragged a bin into the stable, presumably to stand on... What I really don't get is how he got away without a good kicking! Surely if he was injuring the horse, whilst standing directly behind it, he should have been in trouble?
 
1stclassalan said:
Er.....hmmm ( the embarassed face smiley won't work so that will have to do ) it's not that I don't believe there aren't such people about BCB but it just the practicallities of doing what they have supposed to have done - did this chap bring a couple of milk crates with him or a pair of steps?
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I am also struggling with the logistics involved......

There is a man who has a history of this around our area.

I am not suggesting mob rule is acceptable - but a bunch of husbands went and made sure he knew never to visit the local yards again.....
 
turkana said:
This is nothing like as bad as raping a person, many rape victims suffer terrible anguish, I dont expect these horses will suffer long term mental health issues as a result of this.

If he was having sex with them I dont suppose he did any internal damage, unless hes got a very big willy.

I agree that he is a weird & a creep but as sexual offences go this is one of the more minor ones.
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I suppose you would say beating the hell out of a child is worse than beating the hell out of a dog too? I know the law doesnt treat abuse of animals as bad as abuse of humans but I put it on the same level.

Yes the horse may not have much internal damage but why should that mean the rape isnt so bad? If he was abusing a labrador where he would probably cause damage and more anguish - would that make the rape worse?
 
1stclassalan said:
Er.....hmmm ( the embarassed face smiley won't work so that will have to do ) it's not that I don't believe there aren't such people about BCB but it just the practicallities of doing what they have supposed to have done - did this chap bring a couple of milk crates with him or a pair of steps?
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Please don't wonder about the practicalities, unless you wish to fall into a deep pit of despair & hopelessness, though I suspect tiptoes. Weirdos have been about since time began, but due to lack of funds and prisons overflowing, leniency is the new black. Oh well, give him a few more years and he'll start molesting/raping/ripping/torturing some other poor unfortunate.
 
It's not where he put his willy... it's what you can do with your arm... think along the lines of what vets do to cows...

What I DO have to ask is... if it's rape to molest an animal who can't consent, is it also rape to take them to stud? I don't recall Dorey ever agreeing to it!

And do bear in mind, normal people view us as weirdos for cleaning a horses genitals. We're somewhere in between those who get off on molesting animals and those who would never touch an animal!
 
I have to admit this comment on that news site made me laugh:

"In his defence, perhaps he mistook the horse for Sarah Jessica Parker whom is it generally agreed looks very much like a pony."
 
Yuletide_Gal said:
It's not where he put his willy... it's what you can do with your arm... think along the lines of what vets do to cows...

What I DO have to ask is... if it's rape to molest an animal who can't consent, is it also rape to take them to stud? I don't recall Dorey ever agreeing to it!

And do bear in mind, normal people view us as weirdos for cleaning a horses genitals. We're somewhere in between those who get off on molesting animals and those who would never touch an animal!
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Animals mate with animals, consenting humans with fellow consenting humans. Cross that line and ye shall burn in hell. So sayeth the Lord. And I wear Marigolds, so couldn't possibly be considered a weirdo.
 
Fairynuff said:
he shouldn't be 'put away for life', he needs help. So easy to spout off without thinking things through. This isn't an isolated case and a prison sentence isn't going to help anyone.
Lets all take a deep breath before we virtually hang this ill person!
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I agree, this is a very ill person. He needs help. However I do not understand how it went on for 10 months, very distressing for the horse/s in question. And of course their owners.
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I've read through all posts and really had a giggle at some ppl.

Honestly!!!

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR HORSE HE HAD S** WITH!!!!

I'd personally want him locked up for a seriously long time......or i'd hunt him down myself!
 
a senior policeman told me years ago that this is much commoner than we think. he'd headed a major surveillance campaign after a girl tending her pony was molested, and apparently the hidden coppers saw a surprising number of men regularly interfering with horses. :( :( :(
tbh, i'm not sanctioning it at all, God forbid, BUT for the horse how is it that different to a rectal examination which a vet does, where they put their whole arm in? that CANNOT be comfortable either. I doubt a mare can feel a man's *****! the thing is, we train our horses to put up with whatever we choose to do to them, we expect them to accept a vet sticking heaven-knows-what inside them, a horse isn't to know that a man isn't supposed to do that.
he's sick and needs help but maybe i'm alone in thinking "thank heavens he did it to a horse - which probably couldn't feel it, and has no emotional trauma, no shame, etc - and not to a child..."
I am NOT defending him though, the sicko needs help.
 
JoJo_ said:
I adore animals so much that I definitely would put this on a par with raping another human. Not like a horse can give it's consent. So yes I think a prison sentence is justifiable and I dont think 6months is long enough.
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Im not condoning it in any sense BUT they don't consent to us forcing them in breeding (or AI in terms of 'forcing' them to become pregnant), nor do we ask their consent when having the vet stick his arm in, to be fair we don't ask consent for anything we do to them, and we often do literally force things upon them. Its sick but I'm sure the act itself won't have done the horse that much harm, however the bloke clearly nearly needs to be locked up as its not right!!!
 
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