Petition to ban horse slaughter in the UK.

friesian80 said:
Its a contraversial subject. I really wish it could be banned in the UK, but first I think we need to sort out the overbreeding problem first.[/
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Enfys said:
I am sorry, but you are joking aren't you?:eek:

Banning slaughter houses for horses is absolutely one of the worst things that could happen - more are needed, not less.

Agree with everyone else, complete and utter thoughtlessness by the pony patters.
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emmm why are so many slaughtered, BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS PROBLEM OF OVERBREEDING MAINLY IN THE RACING INDUSTRY BUT ALSO BY PPL WHO THINK IF THEY OWN A MARE THEY NEED TO HAVE A FOAL FROM IT BECAUSE THEIR HORSE IS SO FANTASTIC! :rolleyes:

Their is no way horse slaughter could be stopped atm and im not saying that it should happen but if there were less bred in the first place there would be less who needed 'disposed' off.
 
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Bonkers....totally bonkers!
Show them the welfare pictures of the irish horses, a place that needs MORE abatoirs not less!!!
YorksG is spot on, every large town should have an abatoir, but its the same old "I dont THAT near MY house"......
 
A lot of them appear to be kids who always see things in black and white, that is their excuse but as for the misinformed moron who started the petition, she says she's done her research - I think not!
 
I am vegetarian (mostly because I'm not bothered about the taste, it does nothing for me, animals shouldn't have to die for a food I don't like that much), but having lived in America and seen the effects of the slaughter ban, I would not want the same thing to happen in England.

I've seen the videos, I've seen the suffering - keeping slaughter prevents a lot of this suffering. I agree that licensed slaughter houses in very large town or city would solve a lot of the problems; no long journeys, and regular checks from animal welfare to ensure regulations are met will allow horses to die with more of the dignity the deserve.
 
My mum joined that group & when I questioned her abuot it she said that she doesnt like to see horses killed. My reply was if they are not slaughtered here they will endeavor a horrendous journey over to europe or wherever to face an even more horrible end. She couldnt respond to that.

It really annoys me when people set these groups up, they have no thought as to what happens next.

I really do not want what happens to horses in the US to happen here it really would be a sad day.

Yes in an ideal world people would stop breeding all these horses that dont need to be bred but that is never going to happen is it :( :( :(
 
To be honest i actually think they dont seem bothered that they will get shipped overseas for slaughter, they just dont want it here in the UK....madness!! Do they not realise what they are saying?
 
YorksG said:
Why on earth would anyone be stupid enough to want to end slaughter of horses in the UK? What do people think would happen to the unwanted horses if horse slaughter was banned? Do people want to see the equivalent of the horrenous journeys and subsequent vile deaths experienced by horse from the USA, travelling to Mexico and Canada?
I would rather see the small slaughter houses re-opened and no animal being travelled further than 50 miles from its last 'home'
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This ^^^


OP - some people are obviously completely out of their minds! :rolleyes:
 
"At least starving horses/abandoned ones actually have a chance because people might report it. In a slaughterhouse they have nowhere to run, they're not free, and they sure as hell know whats going on before it happens. Animals deserve to die in a dignified manner, not in a tiny room with blood covering the floor :/"

OMG...i think the girl is totally barking...sorry but this post on there left me speachless!!
 
Maybe they should go to India and see what happens to the cattle that can't be slaughtered for religious reasons!
 
"We dnt like that they have to travel in cramped conditions, have no food water rest when travelin to places and the way they get treated e.g. Beaten straved before and when they go to the slaughter house the abuse they go throught and the way they are killed is horrendous ! I'm not for them going to be shot At home and I dnt like the fact they go to slaughter!!!!"

Dear Uninformed of Facebook,
What have you been smoking, can I have some please. (Is it you that supplies Charlie Sheen? :D:p)
Thanks
 
Allover said:
Yep, realised that and promptly unjoined!

Apparently the need 100,000 signatures on the petition and so far have............................. 47!!
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PMSL.

Love the fact they all talk about what responsible horse owners they are as they know where all of their previous horses have gone to... if they were so responsible, they wouldn't have sold the horses in the first place.

My horse is a pet, no two ways about it, but IMHO there is too much sentimentality about horses in the UK. I see no problem with horses going for meat. I have no issue with ANY animal going for meat, so long as they all (whether horses, chickens, pigs or cows) are reared, kept and slaughtered humanely. Better for those racehorses in Ireland to have gone to the abattoir than ended up in the hands of some well meaning numpty who has no idea how to handle a TB just out of racing...
 
Ooh, now someone's put the link on I think I shall have to go on it tonight and see what they are saying! From the sounds of it, they are not intouch with reality at all. I mean, i sometimes live in cloud cuckoo land (it's quite nice sometimes! Lol) but even I have come to terms with the realities of life!
 
ladyt25 said:
Ooh, now someone's put the link on I think I shall have to go on it tonight and see what they are saying! From the sounds of it, they are not intouch with reality at all. I mean, i sometimes live in cloud cuckoo land (it's quite nice sometimes! Lol) but even I have come to terms with the realities of life!
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I think you've missed most of the best posts, they are deleting alot of the stuff they dont like. Though ive just been told of for calling the knacker lorry the knacker lorry...well what else would you call it? "The bus to horsey heaven"?
 
I have been having a bit of a battle on Horse chit chat site on fb with a young lad who thinks there is a person for EVERY horse and slaughterhouses should be closed down.He blames the slaughterhouses for killing horses that could of gone to a lovely home and the only reason people send horses to slaughter houses is because they are lazy and dont spend enough times with the horse.

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=106563206091515&id=129239052859
 
Of course its much better to cram them in lorries and ship them hundreds of miles to be slaughtered.

Maybe its the same people who thought the Hunting Act would help foxes?

Takes all sorts...
 
Totally support the comment made by Yorks SG.

And would also totally support the idea of more slaughterhouses - not just for horses but for all animals and increase the number of mobile slaughterhouses too. I would love to eat meat that's locally bred, reared (pref outdoors) and slaughtered.
 
Here we go again. These discussions usually devolve into slagging matches. Both sides of the debate are entitled to their opinions, but I don't think throwing words like "cretin" and "bunny hugger" around actually enlightens anyone. For that matter, I don't believe that internet petitions solve anything other than drawing attention to the issue.

Anyway, in the interest of trying to create actual dialogue rather than insult-hurling, here is what I posted in the last slaughter debate post.


Facts relating to the equine slaughter debate

Here is evidence of a deliberate and misleading media campaign connecting the US slaughter ban to an increase in neglect. This is not true. In fact, abuse and neglect cases actually went down after the US slaughter ban went into effect:

http://www.kaufmanzoning.net/Deletin...ShortPaper.pdf

It is a fallacy to connect neglect, cruelty, and hoarding to a slaughter ban. If people do insist this is true, could they please cite impartial sources?

During the years when horse slaughter was still legal in the US, they were still exporting horses to Mexico and Canada. In addition, Canadian horses were being exported for slaughter in the United States. Thus, legal slaughter in the US did nothing to stop the transport of horses for slaughter to foreign countries.

Slaughter does not exist as a "service" for horse disposal. It is a profit-driven industry operating on the laws of supply and demand. Most horses who go to slaughter are healthy. The slaughter industry does not want ill or emaciated horses. This is why ex-race horses are slaughtered in large numbers--because they are available when they are still young and tender. Most old, neglected, or abandoned horses are not going to be desirable for meat. This is why slaughter isn't a quick fix solution to situations like the appalling neglect at Spindles Farm or most of the abandoned horses in Ireland.

In the US, only about 1% of horses are exported for slaughter for human consumption--this is in accordance with the European demand for horse meat. Slaughter as a business is not going to increase and open abbatoirs in every corner of Britain just because people perceive an oversupply of unwanted horses. Demand drives the business, not the supply.

Mexico is not the only place in the world where slaughter has found to be inhumane. Two Canadian slaughter plants financed by Belgians to slaughter US and Canadian horses for the European meat market have now closed due to CFIA laws for multiple environmental and animal welfare violations.

In France, a major consumer of horse meat, consumption, and thus demand, for horse meat has declined. The slaughter industry won't vanish overnight, but meat consumption in general is in decline.

Horses are generally not bred and raised as livestock meant to be eaten. They are raised as companion animals, work animals, and sport animals, rather than meatstock. Bute, ivermectin, fly spray, vaccinations, and anti-biotics will state that they are "not for use on animals intended for human consumption." All phenylbutazone products render an animal unfit for human consumption and are carcinogenic when consumed by humans. Given the choice, wouldn't you rather consume organic meat from animals specifically and humanely raised for meat?

Every horse that is rescued from slaughter and that is well-looked-after contributes to the economy, supporting feed merchants, livery yards, vets, trainers, saddleries, and farriers.

Horse ownership is voluntary. With this choice comes responsibility.

Not everyone who has ethical qualms about equine slaughter is a militant vegan bunny hugger. A critical mass of people succeeded in banning slaughter in the US. The same thing could happen in the European Union. As general meat consumption declines, we might be seeing a decline in the equine slaughter industry in any case.
 
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If you have a look at recent comments then ERR raises its very ugly head. No idea if they are behind this, but suspect if not they are hijacking it for free publicity for their 'cause' of rescuing from the slaughterhouses & selling on.
 
I would be more worried if any of those supporting a ban could string a sentence together that actually made any sense, many of them seem to be completely illiterate!
 
*counting down the hours until i cant get home and cause a ruckus* mwahahahahahahahaha :D
fecking halfwits :rolleyes:
 
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