Please have your dogs vaccinated

[Supertrooper]

I'm sure you all do, had to help put a 11 month old SBT to sleep this morning with raging parvovirus, owners had left it a week, so angry with them as such a waste of a beautiful dog. Owners had no money and they didn't even know what vaccines where! Poor dog was in a dreadful state, even with treatment it almost certainly wouldn't make it. They'd got the dog off a 'friend'!!

And then they have the cheek to ring back to say they'd spoken to another mate and their dog had parvo and was given a tablet and was fine so why hadn't we done that. Sometimes it's very hard to keep your cool!!

 

[CAYLA]

I'm sure you all do, had to help put a 11 month old SBT to sleep this morning with raging parvovirus, owners had left it a week, so angry with them as such a waste of a beautiful dog. Owners had no money and they didn't even know what vaccines where! Poor dog was in a dreadful state, even with treatment it almost certainly wouldn't make it. They'd got the dog off a 'friend'!!

And then they have the cheek to ring back to say they'd spoken to another mate and their dog had parvo and was given a tablet and was fine so why hadn't we done that. Sometimes it's very hard to keep your cool!!

What a pair of ********s, typical of them to ask a stupid friggin question like that after leaving the poor dog that long, this is the down side of working in a vets it makes u want to lamp them.

 

[Vizslak]

morons. It's a terrible terrible virus. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to have animals, fancy leaving the poor thing a week as well Horrible.

 

[Supertrooper]

Yep, it would be easy without the owners! It must of been the day for it cause we also had a cat with a stuck kitten, the owner had noticed it's legs protruding out of the cat at 10pm last night but decided just to go to bed and leave it, they ring us at 8am, que ceaserian to remove now very dead and squashed kitten, we've spayed the cat. We do have nice clients honestly xx

 

[CAYLA]

I never usually rant about work but here goes, last week I had a bad night.
1, A woman calls to say "kitten been off food for 5 days and hunched over as if in pain", I asked her to come into the clinic asap, she said she would phone back but never did, then called the next morning to say kitten is dead "can I bring it in to dispose of body" whats so now the bring the poor fecker in when it's dead Arghhhhh
2, Also a puppy rotti in isolation, fought all week to stay alive, and it's a miracle it did given it was a rotti (it had parvo) the owner basically said, "im not sure if I should just have it pts now"

It makes my blood boil, to the point I could easy kill them at point blank range

 

[Supertrooper]

Unbelievable, it still gets to me and I've been doing it for far more years than
I care to remember! It takes alot to me but it's the stupidity of people sometimes xx

 

[itsme123]

I'll probably get jumped all over for saying this.

But a friend of mine, who's VERY into dogs lost a beautiful collie about 15 years ago from Parvo.
It had been vaccinated. When he took it to the vets showing signs of illness the vet asked WHY hadn't it been vaccinated? After it died he took the vaccination card in (they'd moved from London) and showed the vet, who ate humble pie.

Mine's vaccinated, but I don't assume she's 100% safe. I even asked my vet about it who admitted dogs can still get parvo even after vaccination.

To help combat the problem I don't understand why more breeders don't vaccinate pups before they leave the litter?

 

[galaxy]

To help combat the problem I don't understand why more breeders don't vaccinate pups before they leave the litter?

A lot of breeders do give puppies their 1st vaccination. However when I spoke to my vet about it he said don't bother and bring the puppy straight to him as it has to be the same brand/type of vaccination with the 2 jabs otherwise they don't work. Does that make sense? (I did check, he wasn't making it up!) Otherwise you'd just have to start again anyway and pup gets a needless jab.

 

[itsme123]

yes, had I taken mine to the other vet (across town) they would have had a different brand of vaccination.

It never ceases to amaze me how over inflated the prices of vaccs are, no wonder some people don't bother. The price of our local 'country' vets is £65 for the course, yet the cheaper (and less known) vet does it for £30 the course.

 

[CAYLA]

I'll probably get jumped all over for saying this.

But a friend of mine, who's VERY into dogs lost a beautiful collie about 15 years ago from Parvo.
It had been vaccinated. When he took it to the vets showing signs of illness the vet asked WHY hadn't it been vaccinated? After it died he took the vaccination card in (they'd moved from London) and showed the vet, who ate humble pie.

Mine's vaccinated, but I don't assume she's 100% safe. I even asked my vet about it who admitted dogs can still get parvo even after vaccination.

To help combat the problem I don't understand why more breeders don't vaccinate pups before they leave the litter?

If the dog was fully vaccinated, then I would be more inclined to believe it was not parvo, plenty of symptoms mimic parvo, as for understanding why people dont vax even at £65, thats nothing compared to what a dog goes throught when contracting parvo or the cost of treatment, that will flow into the hundreds, I certainly cannot understand anyone that does not give primary vaxes, even more so for cost reason, you really should not own a dog if you cannot afford the single most important part of there wellbeing

 

[Rosehip]

Some people are clinical! It makes you wonderr how they manage to look afterr themselves let alone be allowed animals!!
I was called out to a lambing this season... Some wannabe good-lifers with a couple of sheep on a smallholding, they werent sure how long the ewe had been going, but 5 or 6 people had 'had a go' before I got there. (grrrr!) I could tell as soon as I saw the poor thing that the lambs were dead, but had a quick feel to see if there was anything I could do, and immediately said call the vet! She came out pretty quick and did a c-sec, 2 lambs wrapped around eachother and very very dead, the ewe was so messed up inside from the world, his wife and the bloke down the road mucking about in her for god knows how long that she had to be put down too. Makes me so cross!!

 

[Supertrooper]

Well said CAYLA! Contrary to all popular belief vets arn't actually rolling in money, practices have huge overheads and even bigger bad debt lists!!!

 

[soloabe]

Yep well said Cayla!

Mine are vaccinated for the first 3 years and then get titres drawn every other year from then on. Because i think there is such thing as over vaccinating to.

 

[Zoisrus]

I am always horrified and baffled speaking to some of the show fraternity in the UK from various breeds who just do not vaccinate their dogs. Or they only vaccinate once as pups before they leave the nest and go to new owners. On the continent you have to produce vaccination cards before being allowed entry at most of the major shows, and they will check ID of the dog. If they do not do it on the entry door, they are likely to come around the rings and spot check dogs for vaccination cards.

Aldo had a lively conversation with several well known breeders last year (again various breeds) who do not believe in worming, not even though they admit they find worms in the dog's faeces!!!

 

[FestiveSpirit]

yes, had I taken mine to the other vet (across town) they would have had a different brand of vaccination.

It never ceases to amaze me how over inflated the prices of vaccs are, no wonder some people don't bother. The price of our local 'country' vets is £65 for the course, yet the cheaper (and less known) vet does it for £30 the course.

I've never known any vets do the primary course of vaccinations that cheap, my mum doesnt get them that cheap and she gets breeder rates from her vets as she has been going to them for years! I would seriously wonder how that vet manages to do it at that price

 

[FestiveSpirit]

If the dog was fully vaccinated, then I would be more inclined to believe it was not parvo, plenty of symptoms mimic parvo, as for understanding why people dont vax even at £65, thats nothing compared to what a dog goes throught when contracting parvo or the cost of treatment, that will flow into the hundreds, I certainly cannot understand anyone that does not give primary vaxes, even more so for cost reason, you really should not own a dog if you cannot afford the single most important part of there wellbeing

Ditto this completely Cayla, mind you perhaps I should have drawn the line at £175 for 5 stitches and had Flick shot instead as it was too expensive

 

[itsme123]

If the dog was fully vaccinated, then I would be more inclined to believe it was not parvo, plenty of symptoms mimic parvo,

I don't know, I'm not a vet. But my vet (who is fully qualified with approx 30 years experience) also told me (when I asked) that the parvo vaccs are not guaranteed to protect

as for understanding why people dont vax even at £65, thats nothing compared to what a dog goes throught when contracting parvo or the cost of treatment, that will flow into the hundreds, I certainly cannot understand anyone that does not give primary vaxes, even more so for cost reason, you really should not own a dog if you cannot afford the single most important part of there wellbeing

well, I know that and you know that, try telling that to someone who's just got a mongrel for £50.....

I was simply making a point, not saying that I'm against vaccinations or that I think they're too expensive. Just saying a) that it's a misunderstanding that if your dog has had it's vaccs it will not get Parvo and b) where ever there's cheap pups there's usually no vaccinations.

 

[itsme123]

I've never known any vets do the primary course of vaccinations that cheap, my mum doesnt get them that cheap and she gets breeder rates from her vets as she has been going to them for years! I would seriously wonder how that vet manages to do it at that price

it would be worth you travelling over my way then, where you can get them MUCH cheaper, and even cheaper if you take a whole litter in to be done at once. This vet ONLY does vaccinations though, no other treatment, with clinics being held monthly / weekly dependant on demand. Fully qualified practicing vet, whom I would imagine buys the vaccs at VET rates and passes on the savings having no over heads as the clinic is held in a shop.

 

[CAYLA]

I don't know, I'm not a vet. But my vet (who is fully qualified with approx 30 years experience) also told me (when I asked) that the parvo vaccs are not guaranteed to protect

well, I know that and you know that, try telling that to someone who's just got a mongrel for £50.....

I was simply making a point, not saying that I'm against vaccinations or that I think they're too expensive. Just saying a) that it's a misunderstanding that if your dog has had it's vaccs it will not get Parvo and b) where ever there's cheap pups there's usually no vaccinations.

I would tell anything to anybody when it comes to being a ****** about their animals welfare, £50 or no £50 all animals feel pain and suffering in the same way, no mater their price.

The vaccine thing, well the chances of a dog getting parvo when vaxed is about the same as me one day waking up and looking like cheryl cole either the needle misssed, the vax was dud or the dog has some kind of immune breakdown at the time of vax, I think I would have seen alot more cases (even 1), working in a vets and in a rescue if they where to be seen,
I would have to see it first hand to believe it.

You can also still have a vax card that looks authentic but is not worth the card it's written on so as far as saying vaccinating won't guarantee your dog wont get parvo, well it's ludicrous(sp)

I could be wrong and im to lazy to look back but I thought you said "I don't balme people at that price" I however would blame them and call them irrisponsible t*8ts, after all it's not them that fights for dear life and lie's with their bones and body aching feeling like they have sh!t the equivlant of their own body in blood with cramps thats put any period to shame, and a temperature that makes you feel like you have been set alite

There is simply NO excuse except ignorance.

 

[CAYLA]

it would be worth you travelling over my way then, where you can get them MUCH cheaper, and even cheaper if you take a whole litter in to be done at once. This vet ONLY does vaccinations though, no other treatment, with clinics being held monthly / weekly dependant on demand. Fully qualified practicing vet, whom I would imagine buys the vaccs at VET rates and passes on the savings having no over heads as the clinic is held in a shop.

I think you can get them a fair bit cheaper at vax and neutering clinics, no sure how much cheaper, I think £40 for a course here.

 

[itsme123]

I would tell anything to anybody when it comes to being a ****** about their animals welfare, £50 or no £50 all animals feel pain and suffering in the same way, no mater their price.

The vaccine thing, well the chances of a dog getting parvo when vaxed is about the same as me one day waking up and looking like cheryl cole either the needle misssed, the vax was dud or the dog has some kind of immune breakdown at the time of vax, I think I would have seen alot more cases (even 1), working in a vets and in a rescue if they where to be seen,
I would have to see it first hand to believe it.

You can also still have a vax card that looks authentic but is not worth the card it's written on so as far as saying vaccinating won't guarantee your dog wont get parvo, well it's ludicrous(sp)

I could be wrong and im to lazy to look back but I thought you said "I don't balme people at that price" I however would blame them and call them irrisponsible t*8ts, after all it's not them that fights for dear life and lie's with their bones and body aching feeling like they have sh!t the equivlant of their own body in blood with cramps thats put any period to shame, and a temperature that makes you feel like you have been set alite

There is simply NO excuse except ignorance.

I said "It's no wonder" not "I don't blame them". Totally different things.

FWIW I think plenty of people shouldn't have dogs (especially those who cannot even afford vaccs).

To go back to the other point, I don't know, maybe my vet has seen a case, I'm not saying it's common. But NO vaccine, human or animal, is going to make that patient 100% immune.
That said I'd rather have my dog vaccinated and know I'd done my best to protect her.

 

[CAYLA]

I said "It's no wonder" not "I don't blame them". Totally different things.

FWIW I think plenty of people shouldn't have dogs (especially those who cannot even afford vaccs).

To go back to the other point, I don't know, maybe my vet has seen a case, I'm not saying it's common. But NO vaccine, human or animal, is going to make that patient 100% immune.
That said I'd rather have my dog vaccinated and know I'd done my best to protect her.

I did say I was to lazy to look back, but I still dont understand the "no wonder", because I would wonder, wonder why they where so pig thick

However I know how thick and ignorant some folk are , I deal with them most days.

 

[Shutterbug]

I don't understand people who get dogs and then cant afford to give them even the basics of care, or simply cant be bothered to take them for simple vaccinations!! It begars belief, really if you cant afford the upkeep of an animal then dont bloody get one. The people who live next door to my mum have had 3 dogs in the time I have known them - each dog is taken to the PDSA for everything - like they rely on this charity to care for their dog rather than actually stop and think, well I cant actually afford a dog so I wont get one - really it irritates the life out of me - my horse, 2 cats and my new dog are all insured, can be taken to the vet if needed and treated and the treatment paid for - if I couldnt afford that I simply would not have them!!

 

[itsme123]

I did say I was to lazy to look back, but I still dont understand the "no wonder", because I would wonder, wonder why they where so pig thick

However I know how thick and ignorant some folk are , I deal with them most days.

So do I, I live near most of them.

"I bought a pup for £500 and it's pi$$ed on me value carpet so I stuck it in paper next day for hundred quid"

"for sale, staff pups, mum and dad can be seen as are bruver and sister, full pedigree £600"

 

[prosefullstop]

Yep well said Cayla!

Mine are vaccinated for the first 3 years and then get titres drawn every other year from then on. Because i think there is such thing as over vaccinating to.

Agree with this.

My Boston terrier was hospitalised for several days after experiencing an allergic reaction to her rabies vaccine, at the age of five; now we do titres.

Vaccination for pups and young dogs is essential, though.