PLEASE HELP ME :'(

[loulou-Nina]

There is no point in calling a vet right now - my own appointment for a work up got cancelled about a week ago until the foreseeable future. The only thing they will be able to do is send you some Bute.

I am not giving my horse bute until i am 1000% sure what is wrong with her. She is fine in herself other then the left rein when riden.. I have my farrier out next week she is happy to have a look at her. why is everyone saying ulcers. her weight is fine, she is eating her food and grazing when out, i can touch her belly and nothing :/

 

[ihatework]

I am not giving my horse bute until i am 1000% sure what is wrong with her. She is fine in herself other then the left rein when riden.. I have my farrier out next week she is happy to have a look at her. why is everyone saying ulcers. her weight is fine, she is eating her food and grazing when out, i can touch her belly and nothing :/

You are quite clearly an inexperienced horse owner. Please call the vet, even if it is for some telephone advice.
Many really good trainers are now offering video tuition, it might also be worth getting a good independent view of your riding.

If your saddle fits and you are sitting pretty evenly in the saddle yet there is still a marked difference between right and left rein then it’s either your horse is in pain or you are riding badly (or a combination of both).

It happens to the best of us!

 

[HeyMich]

why is everyone saying ulcers. her weight is fine, she is eating her food and grazing when out, i can touch her belly and nothing :/

Why is everybody saying ulcers? Perhaps it is because the details you have given all suggest ulcers. You asked for advice, and that is the overwhelming reply. I'm not quite sure why you are refusing to take everyone's advice?

To put it into context, my mare wasn't under weight, she was grazing well etc etc. However, she had a few very slight behavioural issues, together with occasionally runny poo. She was scoped and was found to have Grade 3 ulcers, some bleeding.

My experience with my mare has made me suggest ulcers to you. That is why we are all suggesting ulcers, due to experience and judgement.

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[ihatework]

Well I will go against the grain on ulcers. I’m not saying it’s not but I think people are jumping on that based on the hay thread. The photo of the horse looked like one in pretty good nick.

The red flag for me is the difference in left and right. That always shouts lameness to me. Or sub optimal riding.

 

[Bellaboo18]

I am not giving my horse bute until i am 1000% sure what is wrong with her. She is fine in herself other then the left rein when riden.. I have my farrier out next week she is happy to have a look at her. why is everyone saying ulcers. her weight is fine, she is eating her food and grazing when out, i can touch her belly and nothing :/

Horses can be a good weight and eat their food but still have ulcers. As you've asked for advice have you taken it and increased her hay?

 

[teddypops]

There is no point in calling a vet right now - my own appointment for a work up got cancelled about a week ago until the foreseeable future. The only thing they will be able to do is send you some Bute.

They will give advice over the phone

 

[teddypops]

I am not giving my horse bute until i am 1000% sure what is wrong with her. She is fine in herself other then the left rein when riden.. I have my farrier out next week she is happy to have a look at her. why is everyone saying ulcers. her weight is fine, she is eating her food and grazing when out, i can touch her belly and nothing :/

What’s the problem with calling the vet for advice?

 

[bonny]

I wouldn’t give Bute in the circumstances and can see no point in talking to the vet over the phone, the situation is hardly an emergency. I think you would be best to stop riding and turn the horse away until we get back to normal, if and when that happens !

 

[SpringArising]

They will give advice over the phone

The advice will either be 1) Continue as you are or 2) Stop riding until we can get to you. I know that because that's exactly what my own vet said to me.

There's nothing else they can do without seeing the horse.

 

[teddypops]

The advice will either be 1) Continue as you are or 2) Stop riding until we can get to you. I know that because that's exactly what my own vet said to me.

There's nothing else they can do without seeing the horse.

I know but the owner is clearly worried as is asking on here. If she speaks to her vet, it may give her peace of mind. She might listen if a vet tells her to stop riding in the meantime.

 

[CMcC]

I have been in touch with my dentist his not coming out due to lockdown at the moment, I 'm looking in get a equine chiropractor out. I have someone who is going in the mean time have a look at her for me I will keep everyone posted as soon as I have anything new. She don't have ulcers not showing any other signs other the when ridden

is there a reason you are so reluctant to call a vet?

 

[ycbm]

Well I will go against the grain on ulcers. I’m not saying it’s not but I think people are jumping on that based on the hay thread. The photo of the horse looked like one in pretty good nick.

The red flag for me is the difference in left and right. That always shouts lameness to me. Or sub optimal riding.

I didn't even realise it was the same poster.

I said ulcers because they are very common, and fine to ride to the left and bad to the right is classic ulcer symptoms because of where the digestive system sits.

Horses I have known with ulcers have shown no other obvious signs than ridden difficulties, always worse to the right.


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[ihatework]

I didn't even realise it was the same poster.

I said ulcers because they are very common, and fine to ride to the left and bad to the right is classic ulcer symptoms because of where the digestive system sits.

Horses I have known with ulcers have shown no other obvious signs than ridden difficulties, always worse to the right.


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The OP said the horse was good right and bad left ?‍

 

[SpringArising]

The OP said the horse was good right and bad left ?‍

That was what I understood too.

 

[ycbm]

Then everything I've said was rubbish ?

I was sure it said right when I replied ?‍

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[Leo Walker]

Well I will go against the grain on ulcers. I’m not saying it’s not but I think people are jumping on that based on the hay thread. The photo of the horse looked like one in pretty good nick.

The red flag for me is the difference in left and right. That always shouts lameness to me. Or sub optimal riding.

Its more than likely both. A horse suffering mild pain and standing 10 hours without forage would need a miracle not to have ulcers. Looking in good nick doesn't have a bearing on it. They can be fat and round and shiny and be bleeding internally from the severity of them.The reason every one is so hung up on ulcers is that can be improved immediately, it wont cure it, but it will help significantly if the pony has forage all the time.

The rest of it will have to wait for a vet once all this is over.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Whatever you do, stop riding her. The last thing the NHS needs right now is inexperienced riders being thrown from horses which are clearly in discomfort of some sort, or indeed being tricky for behavioural reasons.

She is not an emergency case, so you are very unlikely to get a vet to come out to her until the coronavirus restrictions are fully lifted. However, you should ring the vets to log her in and ask if they have any advice on how to manage her in the interim.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

You asked for advice on feeding hay. People have you it and you decided against it. People were suggesting ulcers and now you aren’t wanting to take that in either. So you won’t feed more forage and you won’t stop riding a horse that’s clearly telling you there is something wrong. Am I missing anything?

Why not stop riding the mare and feed more hay and cut out the mix which will be full or cereal which won’t be food for a potential ulcer candidate? Give her a couple of weeks of this and see if there is a difference. Many people aren’t riding perfectly healthy and sound horses never mind getting on something that might finally have had enough and chuck you on your head.

 

[holeymoley]

Aside from ulcers- this horse definitely has pain from somewhere whether it be sore through its back, tight muscles, ill-fitting saddle etc etc it needs looked at and not ‘ridden through’. A good knowledgable rider or person on the ground should be able to tell whether it’s taking the mick and needs ridden through or that it’s in pain. PLEASE involve a registered professional and in the mean time don’t ride. Your farrier won’t tell you much either unless it’s lame.

 

[EGUSVet]

I had to do some investigation on previous posts of the OP.

1st issue to address: your horse is spending too long at night without roughage.

2nd: your symptoms could be ulcers, tying in with 1st issue, but could just as well be a back issue. is she showing same symptoms if being lunged for example?

various other posters have given good advice above, but with all the information above, it is impossible to make a diagnosis on a forum.

your course of action now would be to talk to your vet and see what they recommend, as they (hopefully) know your horse better than we do.

 

[EGUSVet]

Speaking about feeding, here is a small feeding guide. Helpful even if your horse does not have ulcers:

https://equineulcers.online/equine-gastric-ulcer-feeding/

 

[loulou-Nina]

FOR EVERYONE'S INFO IT'S NOT ULCERS FOUND OUT AFTER SPENDING 2 DAYS FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HER SADDLE PINCHING HER IT'S WERE SHE IS CHANGING SHAPE SO YES I WILL BE GETTING THE BLOODY SADDLER OUT!!! ALSO SHE DON'T GO ALL NIGHT WITHOUT HAY THANK YOU. I FIND THIS SITE VERY RUDE AND BITCHY. MAY FIND AND DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

 

[ester]

You can't delete your account, it's easiest just not to post again if you aren't finding that it is suiting you. What a shame you weren't able to identify before that her saddle was pinching given the length of time this has been an issue.

 

[EGUSVet]

FOR EVERYONE'S INFO IT'S NOT ULCERS FOUND OUT AFTER SPENDING 2 DAYS FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HER SADDLE PINCHING HER IT'S WERE SHE IS CHANGING SHAPE SO YES I WILL BE GETTING THE BLOODY SADDLER OUT!!! ALSO SHE DON'T GO ALL NIGHT WITHOUT HAY THANK YOU. I FIND THIS SITE VERY RUDE AND BITCHY. MAY FIND AND DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

which is the reason why I asked if your horse showed pain if being lunged...

 

[loulou-Nina]

which is the reason why I asked if your horse showed pain if being lunged...

no she don't so no signs of pain when lunging!!

 

[EGUSVet]

no she don't so no signs of pain when lunging!!

excellent. If we had been given that info, then most here would have suggested looking at saddle.

it is often a process of elimination

 

[splashgirl45]

well, having just read this thread the only one who seems to be rude is the original poster. all the other posts have offered their experienced opinion and tried to be helpful and none of the advice has been followed. lets hope the saddle problem is the solution....

 

[Pearlsasinger]

FOR EVERYONE'S INFO IT'S NOT ULCERS FOUND OUT AFTER SPENDING 2 DAYS FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HER SADDLE PINCHING HER IT'S WERE SHE IS CHANGING SHAPE SO YES I WILL BE GETTING THE BLOODY SADDLER OUT!!! ALSO SHE DON'T GO ALL NIGHT WITHOUT HAY THANK YOU. I FIND THIS SITE VERY RUDE AND BITCHY. MAY FIND AND DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

So you did manage to take something away from the advice you were given - good.
I doubt very much that a saddler will come out now.

 

[Red-1]

FOR EVERYONE'S INFO IT'S NOT ULCERS FOUND OUT AFTER SPENDING 2 DAYS FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HER SADDLE PINCHING HER IT'S WERE SHE IS CHANGING SHAPE SO YES I WILL BE GETTING THE BLOODY SADDLER OUT!!! ALSO SHE DON'T GO ALL NIGHT WITHOUT HAY THANK YOU. I FIND THIS SITE VERY RUDE AND BITCHY. MAY FIND AND DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

Goodness me, I saw your post about hay and responded to that, it was a bit disheartening to see so many people trying to help, yet you didn't want to hear that help. I was surprised you asked on here for nutritional advice when you had a nutritionalist to speak to so readily.

With the above horse, I am saddened it has gone on for so long if it is caused by a pinching saddle. Did the physio not look at the saddle, being as the horse had ridden issues? If not, I would inform them of the outcome, for their information. Was it a qualified physio, or a 'back person'? If it was a physio, and they were told of an issue, then they should, by law, have told the vet.

As for a chiropractor, they too should not look at a horse with an issue without vet's consent.

I would still not discount ulcers, many horses do have them and soldier on. I would feed an ulcer friendly diet even if you think you have found an issue with the saddle. An ulcer friendly diet is not expensive.

I too would have called the vet if I had not been able to identify the issue for all this time, for the sake of the horse's welfare.

As for your account, this is not Facebook where you can delete posts etc. Your posts will stay here forever, even if you delete your account. Your name would just be greyed out to inform readers that you are no longer a member, but it is still readable.

I am sorry that, now you have found what you believe to be the issue, that you are not apparently happier with this result. If a visit from a saddler can resolve this, it would be an astonishing bit of good luck. I hope your horse is comfortable from now on.

 

[holeymoley]

FOR EVERYONE'S INFO IT'S NOT ULCERS FOUND OUT AFTER SPENDING 2 DAYS FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT'S HER SADDLE PINCHING HER IT'S WERE SHE IS CHANGING SHAPE SO YES I WILL BE GETTING THE BLOODY SADDLER OUT!!! ALSO SHE DON'T GO ALL NIGHT WITHOUT HAY THANK YOU. I FIND THIS SITE VERY RUDE AND BITCHY. MAY FIND AND DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

How absolutely charming.

So if it’s only taken you 2 days to find out it’s the saddle pinching her where she’s changed shape (for the last how many months?) why did you not find that out sooner?

Nothing rude or bitchy about the site at all. Everyone gave your their thoughts on what the problem could be by what you described.

I hope your horse is no longer in pain.