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What do you think of them? If you are looking on a budget do they put you off? Or would you still call?

Personally they put me off, as you have no idea what price range they are thinking of
 
If I see POA, I instantly think 'I can't afford that horse' and don't consider it any further. But then again, most horses advertised as POA have prolific records in their disciplines, and I know I wouldn't be able to afford a horse like that, even if they'd put the amount their after down rather than POA.
 
They put me off.. However my tb mare was a POA advert and they only asked £300 for her to cover the price of her tack (which is actually worth a lot more than that!). They just wanted her to go to a good home. She came with absolutely everything including all tack, all rugs, all grooming kit, feed & feed bins! And anything else the owner could find that was hers :D
 
Personally, I don't think that they do themselves any favours. If it is a £25k horse, then advertise it as that. Some of the horses that have POA against them do not look like they should be outrageously expensive, so either the photos do not do the horse justice - or the POA is for another reason...

I wouldn't call up either - as I would feel embarassed if the horse was stupidly out of my price range!
 
the worse thing about poa, is you haven't met the horse so when the seller asks what price you think it is worth, how do you know, pictures don't always show the whole truth.

after ringing up for a couple of Poa over the years, i don't waste my time anymore

you know how much you want for the pony/horse then say

if people think its ok, within budget they will ring and come and see it, so you might as well be honest about this.................

if you see a horse you like the picture, it seems to fit with what you want to do, but when you ring its 8k over budget you have wasted your time and the sellers time, you also have the awkard bit on the phone when you say its over your budget

i knew one girl who poa so the rest of the yard would not know how much she was selling for......................got no takers
 
kyanya said:
If I see POA, I instantly think 'I can't afford that horse' and don't consider it any further. But then again, most horses advertised as POA have prolific records in their disciplines, and I know I wouldn't be able to afford a horse like that, even if they'd put the amount their after down rather than POA.
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That’s what I used to think until recently, I was looking at HH ads and found a couple of youngsters POA then moved on a few pages to find old ads of them, the old ads were £750 and £500 etc, it just seems strange to list a price, horse doesn’t sell so list it again as POA surely that will make them less appealing?
 
SamanthaG said:
What do you think of them? If you are looking on a budget do they put you off? Or would you still call?

Personally they put me off, as you have no idea what price range they are thinking of
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Mostly they are put on by chancers and crooks who want you to ring and then
sound you out to work out how much they can screw out of you!!! or what they are selling on isnt theres and they dont want the owner to know what they are it selling for!!!! I avoid it is usaly a waste of time, if someone is selling they should a least put offers in the region of as a guide...
 
I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!! I am looking for a lorry at the mo - and they still put poa for regular type lorrys -why on earth would you do that - I just skip past because they annoy me too much.
 
I always think the owner MUST have a price in mind, so why don't they just put that!? I do find POA quite irritating, and surely they would save themselves a lot of time if they just put a price, because then they wouldn't get a load of phone calls from people wanting to know how much the horse is!
 
I phoned one once, youngster done nothing, stallion but unproven, wanted quick sale so reasonably priced. Let's just say they wanted 10k more than I thought he was worth (I nearly gagged when she said price). Asked if I wanted to view them, but I polietly declined, but she wouldn't give up & wanted to know why. I said I thought she was asking too much & he was out of my price range, phone got put down. Was still for sale months later.
 
Farma said:
I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!! I am looking for a lorry at the mo - and they still put poa for regular type lorrys -why on earth would you do that - I just skip past because they annoy me too much.
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yes its still rife in the commercal vehicle world same thing they want to chat you up about what they are selling or they say oh sorry that one has sold but we have another better one!!!:D , and its a tactic to keep prices up as its harder for buyers to compare but I think its getting harder to get away with even for these sharks!!! ,now there is ebay!!! ring up ask the price if its stupid just say thanks for wasting my time and put the phone down.....
 
Usually, just by reading the advert you can get a good idea of whether the horse is going to be really cheap or really expensive. Most POA's tend to be expensive though!
 
I've phoned about a couple of unpriced horses and the owners wanted about the right sort of money for them (under £5k, nothing bonkers). Some people just don't seem to like publicly disclosing anything about money. It is annoying, but I just phone now if I like the horse and if it is out of my price range I say "right then, goodbye" and leave it. Just phone if the horse sounds like the type you are after and you have a realistic budget in mind. If it turns out over budget, don't feel bad or embarrassed for phoning to ask, the seller could have avoided the mither by putting a price on in the first place!
 
It seems to be a bit of a theme in northern ireland. In the most popular horse selling paper people just don't list a price. On one of the ni based websites I would say around half the ads are POA but I wouldn't say many of those are expensive horses, more like canny sellers who will pitch their price on how rich they think you are lol
 
For me, As a buyer its one of those 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' things. Like someone else said, you can usually get a vague idea of the price bracket from the advert. If it sounds very good, I obviously cant afford it. If it sounds average, the seller is waiting for the highest offer. I'm instantly put off by POA's, I dont have the time (or a cheap enough landline!) to ring phone numbers to be told that its out of my price range.

I wouldnt have thought those types of adverts get much notice in these tight economical times.... but people still do it. If a seller is unsure of how much to price an animal, put a high price tag on it but add open to offers next to it, that way buyers are more likely to be interested (IMO). Once my lorry has been revamped this summer, thats what we'll be doing.... put a ridiculous price on it open to offers, and if someone comes along and makes a ridiculously low (in relationship to the advertised price) yet reasonable (in relation to what its actually worth) offer it then off it'll go. We're not that desperate to sell it though, which is why it'll be done this way!
 
If I was looking, I'd be on a tight budget, and wouldn't bother with a POA unless I really liked the horse, and nothing in the ad suggested it'd be extortionate.

I always assume with those ads that if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it.
 
alj7 said:
For me, As a buyer its one of those 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' things. Like someone else said, you can usually get a vague idea of the price bracket from the advert. If it sounds very good, I obviously cant afford it. If it sounds average, the seller is waiting for the highest offer. I'm instantly put off by POA's, I dont have the time (or a cheap enough landline!) to ring phone numbers to be told that its out of my price range.

I wouldnt have thought those types of adverts get much notice in these tight economical times.... but people still do it. If a seller is unsure of how much to price an animal, put a high price tag on it but add open to offers next to it, that way buyers are more likely to be interested (IMO). Once my lorry has been revamped this summer, thats what we'll be doing.... put a ridiculous price on it open to offers, and if someone comes along and makes a ridiculously low (in relationship to the advertised price) yet reasonable (in relation to what its actually worth) offer it then off it'll go. We're not that desperate to sell it though, which is why it'll be done this way!
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That just seems complicated, and may put people off as some don’t like to offer, why not just add a small amount to what you would be happy accepting that way you have a little leeway to come down.
 
I nearly lost out on my dream horse as he was POA, I didn't call about him as I thought he would be very expensive. Eventually after gazing at a picture on his advert to 8 weeks I dared to call and he was 'sold'. They then gave me their website address and and said they had others like him. I called them back and asked how much one was and it was 5.5k so agreed to see it. I knew within minutes that I didn't like it he was far too skittish for me. They then said that they had one that temperament and personality would be perfect, there had been an issue with a vetting, and would I like to see him - this was the original one I wanted, I then met him and was in love; dreading the price I rode him and thought I would pay anything for him, They then said he was 6k but thought we clicked and were annoyed at the incompetence of the vet that vetted him so wouldn't allow the people to buy him. I asked why they put POA as they would have sold him thousands of times and they said if people are really interested they will call and it stops a lot of timewasters. I bought him for 5.5k passed a 5 stage vetting and they had already paid for a specialist eye person as the newly qualified vet had said he had a cataract when in fact there wasn't anything wrong!!

I always think that now I would call as tbh it's not like it's face to face and embarrassing.
 
They do put me off, and also they wont show up in searches if you put your price range into the search.

I was looking to buy last year, and I rang a couple of POA's, but I was a bit anxious when calling them - (ie I wouldn't knowingly want to ring up someone and waste their time if I knew the horse was out of my budget).
One of the POAs I phoned up about was very reasonably priced and actually would have been around my budget, but there was no way of knowing from the advert, and I nearly didn't call them. The seller told me she hadn't had much interest from her advert.
 
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