police attacked by dog *vid, contents may upset.

Intervention would have been called. They are first response and have to get there asap. They have body armour on their torso, that's it. Firearms often take longer to respond as there are fewer of them and they might not be in the area. I imagine that if intervention hadn't turned up, there would be the usual public outcry.

I'm surprised the officer appeared to have the dog scruffed then let go. :confused:
 
eeek, my thoughts are jumbled! Dangerous dog, imcompetant officers, they couldnt even shoot it properly...four times at point blank range, what are they blind?! Officer involved in initial attack flapped and farted and made the attack worse, then ran, making it even worse. There are a lot of police there, why were dog handlers not there and sent in first, I thought it was standard practice to send in dog handlers in properties where dogs are known to reside when raiding. Clearly a very nasty attack by a pretty dangerous dog.
 
I counted 5 grown men in that clip and 3 of them were police officers. Now i know this is a powerfull breed but surely between them they could have restrained him.
 
Vizslak said:
eeek, my thoughts are jumbled! Dangerous dog, imcompetant officers, they couldnt even shoot it properly...four times at point blank range, what are they blind?! Officer involved in initial attack flapped and farted and made the attack worse, then ran, making it even worse. There are a lot of police there, why were dog handlers not there and sent in first, I thought it was standard practice to send in dog handlers in properties where dogs are known to reside when raiding. Clearly a very nasty attack by a pretty dangerous dog.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
Allover said:
I counted 5 grown men in that clip and 3 of them were police officers. Now i know this is a powerfull breed but surely between them they could have restrained him.
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Yea I loved the big brave officers jumping on walls and keeping out of the way whilst watching their collegue being savaged...I'd be really pleased to have those gallant officers on my side :rolleyes:
 
thougth police had battons???

without being awful id have whacked the dog a few times if i was an officer....

wouldnt leave my colleagues to be savaged...!!
 
Or a member of the public! Seriously no different to the standard observation of the fact that MOST people will by pass someone in need of major help for reasons of self preservation (physically and legally) people stand by and witness vile crimes every day, its a very small minority that will step in and help that old lady who's being mugged or the woman being beaten by her partner or the man getting his head kicked in in the gutter, its disappointing to see that our law force, there to serve and protect cant even help each other!
 
It is on the news!

They did not know the dog was there, it was called Poison and had been reported by a lady previously and it had attacked a cyclist but the police had not been given any intelligence.

They did have batons and were walloping it, but the dog did not respond to it. It broke one mans arm in it's jaws and 2 men need skin grafts.

That is about all I caught on the news.
 
I don't know if it's relevant to that situation but there have been cases (and videos of it happening - no I'm not going to provide links, hopefully they been taken off the internet) where dog owners have trained their dogs to attack people in police uniform, and set their dogs on cops who came to investigate a situation - and in more than one case it was a hoax call purely for the intent of videoing a dog attacking a copper.

One of the videos I saw looked very like the one in the OP link, except the owner (a teenager) was egging the dog on while his mates hid behind a wall and laughed.
 
Kiristamm said:
They did have batons and were walloping it, but the dog did not respond to it. It broke one mans arm in it's jaws and 2 men need skin grafts.
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It WAS a perfect example of panic making a situation far worse! If it had been a violent person, I'll bet they'd have managed to open his skull. It would have only taken a bit of sense and teamwork - one standing still holding baton by both ends and encouraging the dog to latch on, and another one taking a double handed grip on his and using ALL his strength to deliver a couple of hard blows. But they were all too busy trying to save their own skins! NOT impressed!
 
I don't think that was the whole situation as it only showed the dog attacking 1 officer, I assume the other injuries happened before or after the bit filmed. Had I been the officer that was being attacked I would never want to rely on the others present to have my back in the future (if he ever works again and he probably won't, what a terrifying experience!) I cannot believe that none of them had the thought to pad an arm and try to get the dog off him, surely they have jackets, spare body armour, blankets etc that could have been used. I accept the panic etc but these are men that have been trained extensively not to panic. I do not envy them the experience they had in any way and have a lot of sympathy but I hope there will be a lot of questions asked about their reactions to the situation. If they panic and run from a dog then how will they cope with a knife wielding maniac!

With regard to people not stepping in, my sister was attacked and beaten (she was an on duty police officer) whilst making an arrest, in the town centre. A crowd of people out for the night stood around in a circle and watched her being beaten by one lone man, not one of them stepped in to stop him and she was brain damaged from all the head injuries she received. I cannot understand the mentality of people who will stand and watch another human being injured in any way.
 
Hitting an attacking pit or bull terrier does`nt work..it makes them madder.The only hope to get it off is to strangle it by it`s collar,it did`nt have one on I think..and even then you need to get it`s teeth locked onto something to get to the collar.Not easy at all,been there myself and it is no joke at all.
With nowhere to fling it once off the guy ..I had a door to shut..it must have been a nightmare.I sympathise with those guys,the determination and steely strength is a terrifying force to be met with.
 
EAST KENT said:
Hitting an attacking pit or bull terrier does`nt work..it makes them madder.
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Mmm ... I wasn't suggesting 'hitting it' as you might hit a pet dog for ripping up the sofa. More like fracturing its skull! Or ramming a baton into its mouth and down its throat! It HAS to be a better bet than trying to run from it - unless you're Seb Coe! :rolleyes:
 
They admit to not picking up on the intelligence about the dog being in property despite the fact it had already attacked and damaged a cyclist previously. Why was it still around after that incident!

Seriously those poor officers. I think it's easy to be wise about what they should have done in that situation but in reality when your arm is broken by the jaws of an animal can you really be level headed and think OK what I need to do now is....

I know they are trained to deal with lots of situations but these guys were not there to deal with a savage dog they were there to deal with an alleged dangerous criminal. The people who put them into that situation without the correct intelligence should be made to answer!
 
So sorry for them, being attacked in an open street by a pit apparently with no collar..my worst nightmare,their power and tanacity in unreal Janet..and their skulls are very thick..only a bullet would really stop it. Recently a bull terrier was after a burgler ..it got shot through it`s nose,the bullet emerged out of it`s forehead,the brain was`nt caught..but it kept going nonetheless. Once in a red zone nothing much stops them.I still have scars now,and a reminder elecric shock type sensation to remind me.
Then again, a pit is a wonderful gentle companion ,great with babies ,just their breeding gives this bottomless drive..alright if it is on your side. Feel so sorry such lovely dogs are owned by scrotes like this one,and calling him "Poison" says a lot about the owner too.
 
ladyearl said:
They admit to not picking up on the intelligence about the dog being in property despite the fact it had already attacked and damaged a cyclist previously. Why was it still around after that incident!

Seriously those poor officers. I think it's easy to be wise about what they should have done in that situation but in reality when your arm is broken by the jaws of an animal can you really be level headed and think OK what I need to do now is....

I know they are trained to deal with lots of situations but these guys were not there to deal with a savage dog they were there to deal with an alleged dangerous criminal. The people who put them into that situation without the correct intelligence should be made to answer!
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This.

Seeing as they were completely unprepared for the dog, I don't see how they could've done anything else apart from to try and protect themselves.
As for somebody questioning earlier that it took 4 shots to kill it, it was massively pumped up with adrenaline, it was bound to keep fighting. I'm just guessing but I doubt the dog sat quietly whilst they got a clean shot to the heart :rolleyes:.

Sorry, but some people are completely deluded on this thread :eek:
 
I also felt very affraid for the policeman, I have been bitten like that and the pain is unreal (I was alone) I was young and I was parting 2 fighting dogs and one decided I was the next best target, I am glad no one was there to beat the dog as I believe the pain would have been that much worse so I too am glad no one beat the dog whilst it was hanging off the officer. I actually dragged the dog along attatched to my hand (not arm) and opened a door where I proceeded then to close it between me and the dog (pain unreal) dog off!! it was a Gsd.
Not all police are trained to deal with dogs (some are as clueless as the next and some may even fear them) even a dog handler is not trained "how to be attacked".
I have to admit though I have often thought how the police deal with entering houses this way and the fact that a rather pumped up dog may be behind the door and you would think certainly arm protection should be routine (I bet it will be now)
The officer jumping on the wall should me ashamed of himself, I understand how scarey that must have been but surely there was something in the car to aid the situation and help his colleague, christ even driving the car onto the pavement towards the dog to trap it against the wall may have helped, or indeed asking the owner for a lead to place around the dogs neck to choke it to death, or atleast to release.
I also understand why the dog was shot numerous times as suggested it takes more than one bullet to kill a adrenalin enraged animal like that and indeed the skull of a dog, esp this kind is immense, so depending where they shot it may take more than one bullet.
The owner should be hung (he did bog all) except hit it a few times them proceeded to do nothing!! I assume that was the owner?
It is a shame so many people had to be attacked or bitten before something was done about the dog/owner, instead it came to this!
Hopefully something may finally be done about ********s owning dogs.
 
Dolcé;10553725 said:
I don't think that was the whole situation as it only showed the dog attacking 1 officer, I assume the other injuries happened before or after the bit filmed. Had I been the officer that was being attacked I would never want to rely on the others present to have my back in the future (if he ever works again and he probably won't, what a terrifying experience!) I cannot believe that none of them had the thought to pad an arm and try to get the dog off him, surely they have jackets, spare body armour, blankets etc that could have been used. I accept the panic etc but these are men that have been trained extensively not to panic. I do not envy them the experience they had in any way and have a lot of sympathy but I hope there will be a lot of questions asked about their reactions to the situation. If they panic and run from a dog then how will they cope with a knife wielding maniac!

With regard to people not stepping in, my sister was attacked and beaten (she was an on duty police officer) whilst making an arrest, in the town centre. A crowd of people out for the night stood around in a circle and watched her being beaten by one lone man, not one of them stepped in to stop him and she was brain damaged from all the head injuries she received. I cannot understand the mentality of people who will stand and watch another human being injured in any way.
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Re your sister (that is horrendous):( I hope the person who did that is rotting in prison.
 
quirky said:
This.

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Sorry, but some people are completely deluded on this thread :eek:
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Probably the most sensible comment to date. The attending Police didn't receive the available intel. An armed response unit should have been on hand, but wasn't. With dogs of the type in question, and when they are ready to face the world, there's only one answer, a gun and an experienced and trained user.

Alec.
 
Dolcé;10553725 said:
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With regard to people not stepping in, my sister was attacked and beaten (she was an on duty police officer) whilst making an arrest, in the town centre. A crowd of people out for the night stood around in a circle and watched her being beaten by one lone man, not one of them stepped in to stop him and she was brain damaged from all the head injuries she received. I cannot understand the mentality of people who will stand and watch another human being injured in any way.
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As a foot note to my last post, I'm with you. We live in a world which is short on samaritans, we seem to be surrounded by the "passers by", don't we? We can only hope that those who acted as spectators, continue to feel a deep sense of shame.

Alec.
 
As I was not there and do not know the full details of the situation I cannot comment.

However, in my work with the police it astounds me how very judgemental the public can be.

If the officers had beaten the dog down with their batons or all piled on the dog at the same time there would be a video titled, "Police officers beat dog to death." and everyone would be outraged.

If the officers had all scattered and the dog went on a rampage with the neighbours, there would be a video titled, "Police officers stand by while dog mauls public." and everyone would be outraged.

Five officers were mauled and none of the public was injured - yet here we are, picking apart what the officers did WHILE they were being mauled :(

Seriously - this is their JOB. Would you like to be mauled while on duty and then get slagged off by the general public afterwards?

And they are condemned for jumping on the wall? So they SHOULD endanger themselves just to satisfy joe public?

They are human beings and were probably terrified!

I can safely say if that dog had been mauling a member of the public - those officers WOULD have jumped in.

As it is they kept the scene secure and waited for backup.

A couple of officers were called to a man asleep on the beach the other day.

He'd had a row with his family, got drunk and decided to teach his children a lesson by killing himself in the sea, but he fell asleep on the beach when the tide was out.

The tide was coming in fast and had cut the man off while he was still asleep.

The officers waded out (our sea is VERY dangerous and officers have died many times doing this) and tried to bring the man to safety.

He started FIGHTING with the officers but they refused to back down and held on to him while the lifeboat scrambled.

The man was arrested and brought to the station for his safety.

What happened in the morning?

THE MAN COMPLAINED THAT THE OFFICERS WERE TOO ROUGH WITH HIM
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You'd be shocked by how common this behaviour is
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Utterly awful situation for all concerned, and perhaps highlights the need for officers to KNOW if a dog is present at some unsavories home. I do wonder howver how many dogs would have reacted aggressively to 4 coppers turning up unannounced IN their property. I do not imagine the police rang the bell and waited.
 
Agreed Lexie,any house dog with a bit of fire in it`s belly would not stand there wagging..but it is the power and tenacity inbred that is so frightening when they are owned by scrotes like this one.
So it dies? So what? As soon as he can he`ll be off to buy and educate another one.
 
It's amazing how you can all say what they should of done! Were you there?? Those officers wern't dog handlers and these dogs are incredibly unpredictable and also don't react like normal dogs when wound up, the more hyped up they are the more aggressive they become and they will stay hyped up for a long time.

I'm not saying that things couldn't of been done better but it's easy to say what should of been done when you're not in that situation xx
 
I haven't watched the video but it sounds like a horrendous and terrifying situation to be in. I still at the end of the day feel sorry for the dog though and other dogs of a similar breed to this as it it because of these despicable people training dogs to act in this way that so many others are condemned because of their 'type'. That is what really angers me - more often than not the animal is the one that pays the ultimate price :(
 
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