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Well done HH'ers. I think Ponease are feeling the heat!
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And the problem is that a lot of visitors to their facebook page and the groups where the products are bigged-up will believe their excuse for not providing any evidence, and think they are being honest and professional by saying they are just sticking to the 'rules'. I wish more people understood basic science better, and how research is carried out and why it is important for products like these.
By the sounds of it they can't share it because no reputable journal would touch it with someone else's bargepole; it's not peer reviewed and because there's such a VAST conflict of interest, no one will be willing to potentially tarnish their hard-earned academic reputation getting involved.
Ditto, I followed the group for a couple of years being genuinely interested in nutrition and dietary management. I unfollowed last year when the Ponease and Equinectar hard sell increased and most other conversations abruptly shut down, including many from desperate owners who suspected either /or product had triggered laminitis. I thought it odd these two miracle products sprang from nowhere but the testimonials were so convincing.
Yes and all the fake profilers and promotors are out in force defending it!Well done HH'ers. I think Ponease are feeling the heat!
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Yep loads of stuff out there which are not medicinal… David Marlin did his supplement products when he owned the company.
Hold the phone, Angus Castus? As in, the Angus Castus you shouldn't feed to pregnant or lactating mares? In the products they wouldn't provide the ingredients of?
I took this to mean their extra special clay and water combo.
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Aside from the questionable 'science', they don't sound like a very nice bunch of people to deal with at Ponease. It looks like there has been an awful lot of lying and deceitful marketing going on.Interesting that this has come up too:
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Who is? Someone posting on this thread?
Yeah I do go on a bit... but in my defence - I am telling a story. It's on my blog where I tell stories. I can appreciate you would expect me to 'understand the definition of brevity' if I was being employed to write a quick news story...But I was writing in my style, for my audience. Feel free to swing me a few bucks and I'll write any way you want when I expose the next one
Why did you ask/why were you offered a refund (If you don't mind me asking)
Earlier this year one of our Olympic event riders was 'stood down' for wearing a Mankini at a fancy dress showjumping competition. The blowback was ENORMOUS and I posted a photo of myself in solidarity with him wearing a 'mankini' I made out of ribbons I found in the tack room... Anyway it went viral (hoooooray!) and I posted that photo in the blog on purpose because I did NOT want the Ponease filth to dig it up and think that they could shame me by reposting it.
Whoops.. again context. I forget I'm the foreigner here
Kiki is a fussy eater and at that point I'd tried a few things that he had refused to eat. I initially asked them for a sample to try and they said that they didn't do them but that most horses like it. Kiki ate it for about 3 days then decided he didn't like it. I let them know but I gave the rest to someone else to try