Poor ElleJS, I hope they are both ok?

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Couldnt agree more, I personally would like to see this post deleted before Laura comes on here. Cant believe some people
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Sadly I think the damage has been done and we've probably lost one of our nicest, most helpful and most talented members of the CR forum.

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very sad this has happened
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Apologies if this has already been said (I have not read the post other than beginning few)...

Has anyone heard how they are both doing? I have not seen the fall but from first few posts on here and the reactions it sounds like a bad one
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They are both in my thoughts!
 
I think that would be a real shame and the forum is poorer without riders like ElleJS who have gone out there on a home produced horse and are living the dream. I know its my dream to achieve that perfect partnership and get up the levels to the top.
 
TBH, I find this post and the one about Harry Meade a bit distasteful, everyone makes mistakes don't they? I would hate it if I posted a comp report on here and everyone started telling me what mistakes I made during the day (in a non-contructive way) - i know neither Elle JS or Harry have posted comp reports this time btw!

Hope both horses and riders are none the worse for their experiences, and all come out fighting fit for next season, which I sure they will do.
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Hope both horses and riders are none the worse for their experiences, and all come out fighting fit for next season, which I sure they will do.
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I think everyone can echo this
 
Vibes to Connie, fingers crossed for a full recovery. Bad luck Laura, hope you are ok (for what it's worth I thought you rode really well, she doesn't look like the type who wants to take it steady
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I couldn't agree more with Baydale, personally I think when I make any mistake eventing, I probably beat myself up enough without anyone else doing it for me. I imagine ElleJS has gone over and over and over it in her head whilst also being very worried about her lovely little mare and doesn't need to have to read this.
I really hope they are both ok.
 
It did look a very nasty fall but hopefully Laura's spectacular flip meant she didn't take too much of the impact and isn't too sore. What's the latest on Connie? Hope they're both doing ok.

FWIW, I think the thread has got a little bit hysterical now
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I don't think anyone has been particularly nasty about Laura - some people made relatively negative comments, but I can't see that anyone's been outright horrible. No, it's not going to be particularly nice for Laura to read the more negative things but she's a big girl and hopefully she won't take them to heart. She's a good contributor to the forum and I like seeing her reports and progress, so hopefully she'll continue to log on despite the hoo ha.
 
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Laura is fine, Connie is going to undergo some x-rays etc to see if they can find out if there is an underlying problem, but she is not injured from Saturday.

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That is a relief & thanks for letting us know.
 
Thanks for letting us know weezy, have been thinking about them both all day..

Also, would like to add that it would be an incredible shame for someone like Laura to avoid the forum because of one post. I thoroughly enjoy reading all her reports and cheering her on and hope she does come back.
 
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Ok, well maybe it's just me then.. but I can't say I've seen much criticism for us normal folk on here - not compared to top level.

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But isn't that as much to do with numbers as anything? How many people see the 'normal folk' competing and realise who they are compared with those that watch the top level competitors on tv or via the live streaming or whatever? As for no-one criticising the 'normal folk' of HHO - that's not the impression I get from reading the comments in response to some of the photos or videos that are posted on here.
 
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Wise words from Baydale in a wave of some rather distasteful ones (not just on this thread but over the last couple of days in general).

Accepted it's an open forum but I've generally found Competition Riders to be a rather more friendly and supportive place to be.
 
Excellent to hear they're okay and hopefully they can get to the bottom of whatever might be bothering Connie and get her sorted. Not a nice way to find a problem.
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Eventing at any level is a high risk sport. At the top level it's a potentially lethal sport and I think pretty much everyone at the top end knows that, mostly because almost no one gets that far without a very close call or two. Perhaps the lesson to take away from the events of the weekend is that even a good rider on a more than capable horse can end up in trouble far more easily than most people seem to think. Sure, mistakes are made and sometimes the cost is very high indeed. All the more reason to do everything not to make them. So perhaps better to spend time saying "Gee, I'm going to do everything in my power to lower the odds of that happening to me," than to say, "I would have done differently." Because you can't say you would have.

We all get away with all sorts of things. Everyday. And people laugh it off. Look how many times people come on the internet, even on here, and shrug off something that makes the oldies cringe. Not because the teller is stupid or even careless, more often because he/she doesn't know. So a general discussion of what not to do is great. But pretending if you do everything right somehow you'll never go wrong is not realistic. First, you can't be right all the time. Secondly, almost no one does everything EXACTLY as they should. Does everyone with a loose lower leg ride without stirrups for a month? Does everyone with a horse that is difficult to rate stop competing or even jumping until the problem is absolutely fixed? Nope. People come on here all the time and say they want to compete or ask something of their horses but can't even be bothered to get regular instruction.

Sorry to get so heated but I do think discussions like this lose sight of the fact this is a VERY dangerous sport. Heck, horses are dangerous. To us and to themselves. We left a turnout boot off a horse for ONE day last week because it had a slightly weepy cut and it broke its splint bone!! Stupid. Lesson learned. We know better, we thought we'd get away with it, we didn't. THAT'S the lesson to take away. Not just what this one situation should or shouldn't have gone like. Did everyone on this thread go out the next day and make sure they could rate their horse's gallop downhill? THAT would have been helpful.

I'm pretty sure ElleSJ KNEW the second she went down that hill things were not as she would have wished them to be. Then what? Pull up? Circle? Grit your teeth and hope this one would work out? That last one is pretty much the only option at that point. Yes, it's helpful to perhaps mention how less experienced people could avoid such a scenario but the reality is xc is dangerous and a second's misjudgement can have horrid consequences.
 
I think it is a bit harsh that before ElleJS had a chance to do an event report herself, people have been criticising her round. Even though it probably wasnt intended to upset her, it may have done. I have read peoples reports where they say they rode a certain part of a round slightly wrong, they know where they went wrong and dont need it commenting on by anyone else. ElleJS didnt ask for any constructive critiscism, and some of the criticism given wasnt constructive. I hope the horse is ok. I didnt see that part of the round, but they were flying round earlier on, lovely horse!
 
Good news that both Laura and Connie didn't get injured from the spectacular fall....and vibes that the x-rays show nothing major x
 
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I'm pretty sure ElleSJ KNEW the second she went down that hill things were not as she would have wished them to be. Then what? Pull up? Circle? Grit your teeth and hope this one would work out? That last one is pretty much the only option at that point. Yes, it's helpful to perhaps mention how less experienced people could avoid such a scenario but the reality is xc is dangerous and a second's misjudgement can have horrid consequences.

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Good post, TS, and the last bit is nail on head.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to Connie.
 
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TBH, I find this post and the one about Harry Meade a bit distasteful, everyone makes mistakes don't they? I would hate it if I posted a comp report on here and everyone started telling me what mistakes I made during the day (in a non-contructive way) - i know neither Elle JS or Harry have posted comp reports this time btw!

Hope both horses and riders are none the worse for their experiences, and all come out fighting fit for next season, which I sure they will do.
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Completely agree - whether or not we think the riders were right or wrong is irrelevant. I admire both of them for their ability to be there in the first place! If they think they were in the wrong, they will be their own fiercest critics without us weighing in! They know the horses they were riding and will make judgements based on that. Let them be and let's concentrate on what's good in our sport. There's enough criticism of horse sports without those of us who love it putting the boot it!! Surely we should be celebrating that a HHOer was at Burghley competing at all!!!!!
 
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