Poppet: A horrid story be ready

This story is a disgrace these sorts of things are exactly why people give money to the RSPCA .
Those involved should go to the press local and national the daily mail loves these stories local tv might be interested too and their local MP.
Grrrrr really angry now at bedtime ..
 
Even with an amazing recovery it's unlikely you could ever sell him, due to all his ailments. He is likely to be a companion and looking at his poor start in life if we can offer that he surely deserves it.
 
ozpoz said:
"Person with horse can do what they wish"?????
It is obvious that the RSPCA are aware of the costs involved in trying to help return a sick equine back to health and are doing their best to avoid them.
I thought the organisation was set up to alleviate suffering.
Indefensible Moomins, really...:(
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What moomin means is that after x amount of days, if no owner has come forward the the 'finder' can assume ownership of the horse. So in that sense the person with horse can do with it what they wish. I agree that he RSPCA are being awfully irresponsible and neglectful of this case but I find the is so often the case with the RSPCA and equine cases. I personally would be going to the papers. I don't agree that it is not the rspcas responsibility, and I'm pretty sick of the kind hearted people who find these animals in such a poor state being expected to fund their care and recovery when they would be publically flogged if they just drove by and left them on the side of the rd. we stop, we care, we ring to get the appropriate help for the animal and are made to provide and pay for it ourselves, in which case what is the point in having the charity if it refuses to provide the service it promises... I think that's called false advertising:rolleyes:
 
Queenbee said:
What moomin means is that after x amount of days, if no owner has come forward the the 'finder' can assume ownership of the horse. So in that sense the person with horse can do with it what they wish. I agree that he RSPCA are being awfully irresponsible and neglectful of this case but I find the is so often the case with the RSPCA and equine cases. I personally would be going to the papers. I don't agree that it is not the rspcas responsibility, and I'm pretty sick of the kind hearted people who find these animals in such a poor state being expected to fund their care and recovery when they would be publically flogged if they just drove by and left them on the side of the rd. we stop, we care, we ring to get the appropriate help for the animal and are made to provide and pay for it ourselves, in which case what is the point in having the charity if it refuses to provide the service it promises... I think that's called false advertising:rolleyes:
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How about it being WHW responsibility?
 
I can't understand what would benefit the foal being left for hours without veterinary treatment and help which is what the RSPCA wanted your friend to do, out where he was found? If he was human, he would have been taken straight to hospital, not left to die.
They should be held accountable for allowing an animal to suffer, and that goes against what they stand for.
Your friend did the right thing, no animal should be allowed to suffer, and that should be top priority for the RSPCA. They need act responsible and take the foal, it shouldn't be down to your friend to care for and provide treatment out of their own pocket.
 
Moomin1 said:
Erm, not sure what you mean?

Person with horse can do what they wish after so long of not being claimed. They need to speak to a solicitor to confirm how many days they would advise on this.

RSPCA need have no involvement whatsoever from this point.
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But that makes no sense.

If I were to find myself in this situation I would have no choice but to "redump" the pony.

I don't have anywhere to keep him long term, don't have the money for care or PTS. (the cost when I had my pony PTS was nearly 300 for the vet and 250 to dispose of the body, it was colic)
I could provide emergency help overnight/a day or two but beyond that I'd need help.

And in the meantime, the poor pony suffers.

And what if somebody comes forward to claim the pony after it has had treatment?
Without RSPCA involvement so they could make a prosecution for neglect, how would a person stop somebody from taking the pony?
 
Moomin1 said:
How about it being WHW responsibility?
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Why? Because the RSPCA aren't up to it?

Maybe because the RSPCA are a huge charity, who promote themselves as an animal rescue service and therefore should be well placed to deal with a sick, abandoned horse.

And that is why the piggy and friends' uncle called them and not WHW, I assume.
 
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My predicament was that as my 'non horsey' uncle found him - he only knew to call the RSPCA (the national centre) so that's what he did. I then could have called another equine sanctuary however as I was told an officer would be in contact as a priority; I did not wish to place a burden on any other organisation if an officer was on its way.
What if I was not a 'horsey' person, I wouldn't have been able to take action!? He was dumped to die (we have had 2 incidents of dead ponies in the last. 18mts) in fact I was riding my horse and found one dead colt rope road it's legs tied to a tree (it was how it was pulled out the back of a truck)

My own vet offered me advice over the phone; I can only say this poor pony smelt of death (the infection was so bad it went up his legs to his chest. Good news is he seams to be a resilient chap. For me it's not about the money, ownership etc etc its about saving this poor boy - next 2 weeks will tell. So please do not give up hope for him.
 
I can't see the pic but if he is coloured and looks sun burnt that is photosensitivity, the main cause for this is liver damage from ragwort poisoning. This needs a vet and blood testing ASAP
 
My predicament was that as my 'non horsey' uncle found him - he only knew to call the RSPCA (the national centre) so that's what he did. I then could have called another equine sanctuary however as I was told an officer would be in contact as a priority; I did not wish to place a burden on any other organisation if an officer was on its way.
What if I was not a 'horsey' person, I wouldn't have been able to take action!? He was dumped to die (we have had 2 incidents of dead ponies in the last 18mts) in fact I was riding my horse she span (she would never spin) and as I saw there was one dead colt rope tied to it's 4 legs and tied to a tree (this was how it was pulled out the back of a truck)
My own vet offered me advice over the phone; I can only say this poor pony smelt of death (the infection was so bad it went up his legs to his chest. Good news is he seams to be a resilient chap, the reason he has been called poppet is when I looked at him all I could say was omg you poor poppet. For me it's not about the money, ownership etc etc its about saving this poor boy - next 2 weeks will tell. So please do not give up hope for him. I'm so touched other people care. Thank you.
 
From the sound of the issues with this pony, personally I think it would be kindest to PTS. What sort of market is there for him out there?

Sorry to sound harsh but if it is ragwort poisoning it would be better to PTS now.
 
He has had a liver test and the vet (local RSPCA) funded this to determine if he instantly needed to be PTS - the damage has not shown excessive levels so there is hope. If he comes through he will be quite a character! X
 
When you looked into his eyes it said save me - not destroy me.
The decision was made based on informed specialist advice. I know a few people who would happily have him as a lawnmower!
 
Piggy- well done you. Amazing to hear there are lovely people like u out there. I recently rescued a coloured that was dumped in a paddock next to mine- RSPCA were useful in my case and got it into a local centre next day where it is still being cared for. Anyway well done you and I wish poppet all the best- sounds like he is a little fighter, you should feel very proud of yourself xx
 
Whatever the issue with the RSPCA, Piggy, I think you are amazing . This little chap is so lucky it was you who found him. It warms my heart to see you care so much for what happens to this little chap. Thank you, you give me hope in an increasingly hostile world! I wish you and him all the luck in the world! xx
 
merrymeasure said:
Whatever the issue with the RSPCA, Piggy, I think you are amazing . This little chap is so lucky it was you who found him. It warms my heart to see you care so much for what happens to this little chap. Thank you, you give me hope in an increasingly hostile world! I wish you and him all the luck in the world! xx
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This.

I'm flabbergasted at the attitude of the RSPCA. But I wish you every success Piggy with this little chap.
 
AmyMay MOST equine complaints are called in to BOTH the RSPCA and WHW, MOST of those complaints are then attended by the local inspector and WHW officer. Then the bills are often shared.
Inspectors who have a lot of equines in their 'patch' are on first name terms with their local WHW officer and will compare job lists and see who has been to what.

I can tell you without a doubt that WHW would take a job even if the RSPCA had been called... If that is out of hours then no WHW won't attend because only the RSPCA have officers on call. ALSO you may get a call from a WHW officer saying that if an RSPCA officer is already attending then you won't need the WHW because unlike you lot they KNOW what the RSPCA officers do EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Both RSPCA and WHW contact each other to attend situations together because they understand the value of working together.

It is KNOW-ONES 'responsibility' (where did you get that from) with 'who got called first' ... Never heard anything so stupid.

It is actually the vets responsibility who was contacted and chose not to attend. It was the inspector in question responsibility to prioritise what animal they went to first. That is the truth like it or not.
 
OP just call WHW or BHS or who ever and tell them the situation. That a foal was dumped, the rspca have given initial emergency treatment but the foal is now considered to be in your responsibility, just tell them you can't afford to have this and ask for help.
 
I'm not sure I've used the word 'responsibility' MillyMoomie.

So on the basis of what you're saying - the WHW will attend this pony. Which is great news. I can only comment on what I've experienced in the past - stupid or not ;)

So, OP based on MillyMoomie's comments it would seem that you can call the WHW and expect them to attend.

Go for it.
 
MillyMoomie said:
It is NO-ONES 'responsibility' (where did you get that from) with 'who got called first' ... Never heard anything so stupid.
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I don't think its stupid... maybe not responsibility per se but I cannot see how WHW can possibly have been expected to attend when nobody has informed them of the situation! To suggest that a welfare organisation, once informed of a situation, has not even a moral responsibility (as opposed to say legal) to do their best for the animal concerned is well very :(

It has also been reported on this board and elsewhere that other welfare organisations are reluctant to attend if the RSPCA has been notified. Carrot and Spud being a case in point.
 
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