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I don’t know any of the people involved but the allegation is the horses had basic care most of the time but would be left with no care/food at all for periods of time when the girl was busy/out snd didn’t arrange cover. And horses lost condition, not to mention the emotional distress/risks of that. Who knows but if MW is supporting those allegations (an IF at the moment, but that’s what is being hinted at strongly) then that gives them a high degree of credibility.
 
LadyGascoyne said:
Without passing any judgement on the situation or the condition of specific horses as information is clearly arising and who knows what is and isn't true...

I think with top horses in high-end establishments where the costs are substantial and the value of the horses is significant, the expectation is that a very high level of care will be in place.

I haven't seen the photos so I'm only talking in general terms but I can see how there would be a substantial loss of trust if a horse in that kind of set up isn't maintaining a good condition or improving its condition. And if it's losing condition or in poor condition, I could imagine being appalled that I'd made arrangements to provide top level care for a horse and then the horse has been let down.
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Totally agree. perhaps we all need to see past the glossy images of fancy yards posted on social media and we should trust no one!

I did think this GFM was a risky move, takes really confidence to create this, she clearly didn’t expect anyone to call her out?

The dressage world seems to be an increasingly disappointing part of our equine sport. What a terrible shame.
 
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Ambers Echo said:
I don’t know any of the people involved but the allegation is the horses had basic care most of the time but would be left with no care/food at all for periods of time when the girl was busy/out snd didn’t arrange cover. And horses lost condition, not to mention the emotional distress/risks of that. Who knows but if MW is supporting those allegations (an IF at the moment, but that’s what is being hinted at strongly) then that gives them a high degree of credibility.
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That seems to be the allegation line on Tyler Bradshaw's post tonight.
 
nutjob said:
The chestnut horse looks appalling. The muscle wastage and the prominent hip bones, especially compared with the before photo.
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I’m not for one minute saying the horses haven’t lost weight or that there may not be some truth to the story (as I said the situation gets odder and odder) but that was an extremely odd angle to photograph that horse.
 
I find the whole situation strange!
I believe there is a large chunk of information that has been omitted. Agree with others who have said that this is getting a following and therefore there will be speculation and looking into her life and set up
 
I'm clueless about GFM, if its taken down due to fraud etc does everyone who donated get an automatic refund, or do you still have to request a refund? I've never donated through one, so I was curious because they seem so unregulated and open to abuse.
 
ester said:
Its probably quicker to request a refund and report at the same time. What they class as fraudulent will be fairly specific though.
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Thank you, I was just wondering about people who may have donated and have subsequently had a change of heart, just idle curiousity. Any spare cash I have goes to the Brooke charity, not dodgy gfm.
 
wills_91 said:
The second photo makes me uncomfortable - is it a still from a video?
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It was posted as a photo by the owner in Tyler’s fb post/thread

I think it’s tricky for people to discuss stuff they haven’t seen especially if you have to go through fb comments to find it so just trying to make it easier
 
I don’t know anyone involved in this, but I did find the entire thing bizarre and that’s why I started following on here.

TBH Millie presents as a beautiful rider and from her socials she seems to adore the horses… I can only go on what I can see, but it seems there most certainly is another side to this and no doubt more to follow….

I do worry about how all this will be effecting her family, she is someone’s daughter after all. And this type of blow up online can do so much damage to a persons and their mental health.

Not excusing any welfare issues to the animals at all (I still can’t forgive CDJ, or anyone that supports her) but I don’t think this Millie girl would have started a GFM if she thought all this would come out? It would be foolish - surely? I’m so confused!
 
It will be interesting to see what comes out in the wash.

From what I can gather the horse Tyler is posting about is now with the majority share holder of Olaf who has the ride on him (but is seeking funding/syndicate for him so she can keep him).

Seems like there’s definitely plenty of bad blood floating around, whatever has gone on.
 
It's gutting really. When I found out the first thing I said was, I really hope it's not true. The gfm was bad and I was surprised by people defending her. But she did seem to be a good and ethical rider. And here we are. Another "good" dressage person turns out to be an abuser while presenting a totally different front.

Looks like she won't be getting her grubby little hands on all that money now at least.
 
The bit I don’t understand is, if the owner has welfare concerns and has tried to retrieve the horse, why would buying him even be an option?

Like I say, it’s all very bizarre and about 4 sides to the story so far, will be curious to see what comes out of it all.
 
KikiDee said:
The bit I don’t understand is, if the owner has welfare concerns and has tried to retrieve the horse, why would buying him even be an option?

Like I say, it’s all very bizarre and about 4 sides to the story so far, will be curious to see what comes out of it all.
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As far as I can tell she’s trying to raise enough to afford 55% at an inflated value. Perhaps she believes she has enough members of the syndicate who would sell to her to get her to 55% so she has control. Who knows.
 
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From same thread.
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Anyone else think it looks too covered/fat in the first photo?

I’m not saying this is the case here (I’ve actually got no idea what’s going on), but people nowadays do think fatter horses are ‘normal and healthy.
I think if most people saw a fit, lean horse, they’d think it was far too thin. Like dogs, people are so used to fat dogs that anything a healthy weight is seen as underweight.

I see lots of “the horse is emaciated” online when it really isn’t. It’s just not carrying oodles of fat on its bones.
 
Yes I’ve said that further up the thread too. The photos taken as evidence that these horses have lost condition are very odd. I’m not saying they haven’t but you’d post a straight up confirmation shot not some random “horse not square, taken from below, just of its hip” shot. I can make ANY horse look angular that way. Or a “look at the shiny before photo of the wet horse” Again I am not saying there are not issues just that the photos used, both the before and afters, are odd. Also going to say… having been very anti the GFM (anti them in general) Millie IS a very lovely rider. The person out to expose her not so much…
 
scats said:
Anyone else think it looks too covered/fat in the first photo?

I’m not saying this is the case here (I’ve actually got no idea what’s going on), but people nowadays do think fatter horses are ‘normal and healthy.
I think if most people saw a fit, lean horse, they’d think it was far too thin. Like dogs, people are so used to fat dogs that anything a healthy weight is seen as underweight.

I see lots of “the horse is emaciated” online when it really isn’t. It’s just not carrying oodles of fat on its bones.
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Yes, I do. I agree that people are used to seeing fatter horses these days and that in terms of their weight, the horses in the pics aren't terrible by any means.

But I also think that when a horse is away for dressage schooling and drops muscle along it's back and quarters like that then it really isn't being ridden correctly either.
 
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