POWA Hunt monitor arrested for murder

So if a person ran out on to the road in front of me and I hit that person would I be arrested on suspicion of murder?

I am sorry but for an arrest on suspicion of murder (why not manslaughter for example?) there's more afoot than preservation of evidence!
 
Bit of a misconception these days. The objective is to preserve evidence and you can justify an arrest on fairly flimsy grounds if the event was serious or resulted in a death. The clue will be in how quickly anybody detained is released on bail - or not.
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Correct. The police have very little experience of aircraft accidents and it is not that unusual to arrest pilot on suspicion of muder in the event of a death. It is normally the AAIB that would investigate in conjunction with the police. As the aircraft in question is generally fitted with dual controls it would be impossible for the police to confirm (at this stage) who was in control of the aircraft at the time of the accident. Therefore the police would have little option but to arrest both persons.
 
So if a person ran out on to the road in front of me and I hit that person would I be arrested on suspicion of murder?

I am sorry but for an arrest on suspicion of murder (why not manslaughter for example?) there's more afoot than preservation of evidence!
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Yes, I can guarantee, without any fear of contradiction that if you were the driver of a car involved in a fatal collision you would be arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous or careless driving - no matter how blameless you may be
 
oh come on everyone, shape up! all those for and against, there's no point squabbling like ferrets in a sack until the tragedy has been sorted out- so far noone knows exactly what happened or why so meanwhile lets all cool it.
 
On a sunday part of the airfield is used for a sunday market, another part is a dragstrip and another is used for people learning to ride motorbikes. Then a very small section is home a microlites club.

Trust me i know i'm there every week.

I'm not aware things are supposed to just 'land' on it as it's part of a club and the rest is dis-used?
 
I'm not aware things are supposed to just 'land' on it as it's part of a club and the rest is dis-used?
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Pilot had booked in for refuel with airfiled manager the day before he landed. Most airfields are PPR (prior permission required) which this pilot had. So he didn't just land.
 
It really doesn't matter - what does matter is that someone has died as a result of the ongoing troubles between pro hunting people and anti's. This shouldn't ever have happened or been allowed to happen. Unfortunately the fact that it has will cause a huge backlash and there are going to be a lot more problems. Good job its the end of the season!
 
It really doesn't matter - what does matter is that someone has died as a result of the ongoing troubles between pro hunting people and anti's. This shouldn't ever have happened or been allowed to happen.
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That I agree with whole heartedly :(
 
salimali - was that directed at me?

Not squabbling here - just pointing out that you can't draw any conclusion from what is in the press and whatever caused this, it is a very sad incident.
 
no, not directly,just at all in sundry getting their wotsits in a twist before any one knows the truth. it is a very sad tragic thing to happen to anyone whether it be an anti, supporter or whatever- it's a life for god's sake!
 
I feel this is a sad and tragic accident and, until an investigation is carried out then I don't think it's down to us to speculate based on what has been printed in the press.
 

Yes, I can guarantee, without any fear of contradiction that if you were the driver of a car involved in a fatal collision you would be arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous or careless driving - no matter how blameless you may be
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Mother Hen - my point is I would not be arrested on a charge of MURDER unless there was at least SOME evidence that pointed to that. Having qualified as a solicitor, (though not specialising in criminal) I do know people are arrested on 'trumped up' charges, however in this instance there must be at least some suggestion of foul play!
 
I'm really saddened by this - it's too awful for words. I can't believe that the pilot of the aircraft didn't see another person in the vicinity.

I heard that the anti's have been using these to harass and chase the hunt with recently, so I really can't believe that it's some sort of accident that just happened between a pro and anti's.
 
Or is it the responsibilty of the person who happens to be roaming about on a landing strip to be aware of an aircraft which is landing there?

I should imagine its pretty hard for someone to purposely cause the death of someone by hitting them with a gyrocopter, which in effect is not too different from a helicopter.

One would think that the reason they were monitoring the hunt from the skies in the first place is due to the fact that for some reason hunts keep attacking monitors on the ground.

People have as much right to fly about in craft as hunts do to "exercise their hounds".
 
This was a terrible tragedy, my deepest sympathies to all concenred.
Whether it was an accident or otherwise remains to be seen but it sounds like the police have reason to believe, certainly for the moment, that this was something more sinister than a straightforward accident.

As far as people having as "much right to fly about in craft as hunts do to exercise hounds" I am quite certain that is incorrect. I can exercise my 'hounds' quite legally, provided I am not tresspassing whensoever I wish without having any kind of special training/pilot licence/permission to land/fly in certain areas, however if I were to go out and purchase some kind of winged craft and take to the air in it willy nilly I feel certain I would be breaking numerous aviation laws!
 
POWA are normally very quick to get press releases relating to their activities onto their website.

They are being very quiet about this incident. An expression of condolence would have been a nice gesture.
 
"As far as people having as "much right to fly about in craft as hunts do to exercise hounds" I am quite certain that is incorrect. I can exercise my 'hounds' quite legally, provided I am not tresspassing whensoever I wish without having any kind of special training/pilot licence/permission to land/fly in certain areas, however if I were to go out and purchase some kind of winged craft and take to the air in it willy nilly I feel certain I would be breaking numerous aviation laws!"

I dont think the gyrocopter was tresspassing. Its like me accusing the RAF of tresspassing when a fighter plane comes over my house!. I dont think that area of sky is owned by an individual!.

Secondly, im assuming Joe Bloggs didn't nip into his local toys r us store, simply purchase a gyrocopter for £9.99 and fly around in it willy nilly without passing any qualifications or authority!!.
 
"I think seeing as we all have to pay to go hunting so should anti's if they come - why should they get all the fun for free?!!!"


They dont come because they enjoy it love!. They come because they are trying to prevent the death of a wild animal by people who cant find anything better to do with their time!.
 
"POWA are normally very quick to get press releases relating to their activities onto their website.

They are being very quiet about this incident. An expression of condolence would have been a nice gesture."

I dont think its wise that any organistaion should comment on this at the moment......Lets wait and see what the outcome is!.
 
Let's see how long this post last, but

you utter, utter TWAT
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I agree that Monkey is the Twatest of Twatness.....

All flying aircraft have to obey certain rules, and surely one of them, is to ensure their landing / take off / flight path are clear of interferance.

If an airfield no longer is run as an airport, EG Dunsfold which is close to me, then there are many other activities on it.

Hunting is still legal if those hunting keep within the law, so why should some idiot take a half built helicopter up and cause havoc and in this case death.

I fully support all hunting people, their livelihoods, traditions, jobs and legacies, and feel that this do gooder society we live in is going to be the detriment of society, and bring with it a ' fast forward ' to chavness, and inner city ruin.....

Lets hope the Conservatives get in and this stupid law is repealled.....

Bx
 
POWA are normally very quick to get press releases relating to their activities onto their website.

They are being very quiet about this incident. An expression of condolence would have been a nice gesture.
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POWA should be straight back up there with the gyrocopter and the hunters should learn to stay at home.
 
Stagg may you rot in hell. A man has died and family and friends are mourning. Sick people like you play no part on a discussion board as you have nothing of value to contribute.
 
But the fact is thousands of foxes are killed by these sadists every year for their own sick pleasure.

Why should I mourn for such people?
 
MMIB - what are you doing on a hunting forum, on a pro hunt website if you feel like this.

Anti hunt protestors have killed an innocent man and all you can do is bitch.

The man in question was a good, honest, hard working, helpful member of the Warwickshire hunt. He would have done anything to help anyone. So, please do have some respect.
 
I think this thread has rather gone off at a tangent. MMIB and Stagg are entitled to their opinion with regards to their views on hunting (I don't think this forum actually states it is just pro hunting, it is just a hunting forum).

However, there is NO justification for anybody purposefully killing anyone else just because their opinion differs. If this was intentional then that is disgusting and does not help the anti hunt people in any way, shape or form.

My condolences go to the family of the man who tragically lost his life just because he was doing something he enjoyed.
 
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