gunnergundog
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What's the problem with that? If he is civil in the gag.....????
Pre vetting help please
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JenJ
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I thought this was going to be your first horse?Thanks for this. He is sort of what I’m looking for but too strong really. Also had a grey and it was a nightmare keeping him clean. But if it’s the right horse then that obviously doesn’t matter. Am keeping my eye out!
ihatework
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I’m out. Something isn’t adding up so I will invest my time elsewhere!
IMJS97
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This is exactly my point which is why the horse I’m interested in caught my eye. Because yes he’s an ex racehorse but has been hunting and is apparently golden. Very sane and safe. Doesn’t get strong. Happy anywhere.
Mid field. Surrey based. I’m not a huge hunter. Just enjoy the occasional drag hunt. I just want a horse that has hunted because I don’t really want to take any horse hunting for their first time. Also one with hunting experience is also likely to be well behaved at fun rides etc because it’s a similar environment.
I’m not saying I want a mega hunting a horse. Just a horse that has hunted who didn’t loose their sh*t.
But yes I’m experienced and also have experience with youngsters. But not what I’m looking for at this stage of my life.
Anyway I think this is all escalating a bit. I appreciate everyone’s help but I originally just wanted to ask about the specific horse in question. X
IMJS97
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Look, I don’t know why this is a problem. It’s very normal to not want a strong horse. Please just leave this alone now. It’s all escalated and is becoming rather sour. I was only asking for some advice about a specific topic and appreciate the responses but I don’t like these kind of responses. If I’m spending 10k on a horse I am allowed to not want a strong horse. Everyone has traits they look for.
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Who do you go with? Mid Surrey or Staff College are our 2 drag hunts in the county.
gunnergundog
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Which hunt? I may know of one........change of mind.....
I'm with you given the responses above. See you at the bar!
Shinx
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I completely understand falling in love when there are little doubts that make you post online for other people’s opinionsThere have been so many responses here so it’s hard to keep track. I said that I was looking for happy hacker experienced hunt horses (Irish sports horse type) and then stumbled across this one and unexpectedly fell a bit in love. I often hear people end up with the opposite of what they were looking for
If you look at my last thread here everyone was telling me not to buy the gorgeous three year old who was very bum high. I argued with them all If it helps, what I did was sit on my hands for two weeks and refuse to look at his photos or videos, then I went and looked at lots of other horses. Did the trick, and now I’m bringing home a different lovely (and this time well put together) youngster!
Point being, there’s a horse out there for you and when you find it you’ll know. Seasoned hunters will definitely be more, but I still bet you can find one in your budget, your search might just take a little longer. It’s normal for horse hunting to take absolutely ages!
JenJ
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If OP is still around, and genuinely has £10k to spend on an all rounder/hunter, then I'd suggest she contact NT Equine. That's exactly the sort of horse Nat specialises in, and if she hasn't got the 'right' one in currently, she can keep an eye out. Nat is local to where OP said she was based - in fact she used to work out of a yard a couple of miles away from the OP's preferred yard - and is a keen hunter, with a big network of connections.I completely understand falling in love when there are little doubts that make you post online for other people’s opinions
If it helps, what I did was sit on my hands for two weeks and refuse to look at his photos or videos, then I went and looked at lots of other horses. Did the trick, and now I’m bringing home a different lovely (and this time well put together) youngster!
Point being, there’s a horse out there for you and when you find it you’ll know. Seasoned hunters will definitely be more, but I still bet you can find one in your budget, your search might just take a little longer. It’s normal for horse hunting to take absolutely ages!
Mrs. Jingle
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First horse, doesn't even have a vet initially, now owned at least one other horse and galivants off around hunting country as a matter of course apparently. Glad my intermittent internet meant I didn't waste my time responding and just enjoyed a bag of popcorn, but very annoying for those of you who have taken the time and offered experienced and worthwhile advice. 
JenJ
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Haha, I even spent the half the morning looking out for her at my yard, as I'd recommended it to her and someone with a similar-ish name had booked a viewing for a livery vacancy...First horse, doesn't even have a vet initially, now owned at least one other horse and galivants off around hunting country as a matter of course apparently. Glad my intermittent internet meant I didn't waste my time responding and just enjoyed a bag of popcorn, but very annoying for those of you who have taken the time and offered experienced and worthwhile advice.
Shinx
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Natalia is fantastic, very no nonsense and lots of good horses. I haven’t bought from her but have spoken to her about a few of the ones she had on offer in the past.
PurpleSpots
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The grey mentioned could have been a loan/shared horse? Not necessarily an owned one?
IMJS97
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Thank you so much for your kind advice. I completely agree with you. I’m going to sit on it I think. If he’s here in a few weeks then I’ll get a vetting maybe. If he’s gone, he’s gone. I just hope he goes to a good home who doesn’t do too much with him!I completely understand falling in love when there are little doubts that make you post online for other people’s opinions
If it helps, what I did was sit on my hands for two weeks and refuse to look at his photos or videos, then I went and looked at lots of other horses. Did the trick, and now I’m bringing home a different lovely (and this time well put together) youngster!
Point being, there’s a horse out there for you and when you find it you’ll know. Seasoned hunters will definitely be more, but I still bet you can find one in your budget, your search might just take a little longer. It’s normal for horse hunting to take absolutely ages!
Mrs. Jingle
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Quite possibly.
IMJS97
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IMJS97
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Thank you so much, will have a look!
IMJS97
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I’m very confused? I had a horse on loan who has just been sold. I have never once said anything about gallivanting around?? Why do people become so mean?First horse, doesn't even have a vet initially, now owned at least one other horse and galivants off around hunting country as a matter of course apparently. Glad my intermittent internet meant I didn't waste my time responding and just enjoyed a bag of popcorn, but very annoying for those of you who have taken the time and offered experienced and worthwhile advice.
BBP
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I too fell in love with a horse on sight. There were a number of red flags. Other people pointed them out. I saw them. I bought her anyway. I didn’t bother vetting as I knew she would fail. Now I am dealing with exactly the things that the red flags pointed to. BUT, I buy a horse to be more than a riding horse. I buy them to be a friend, a companion, someone to keep me grounded, and to be themselves regardless of whether they can be ridden or not. I bought this 5yo knowing she may not stay sound because I liked her personality, her energy and knew I would like having her around. I’m prepared to put in the hours, days, weeks, months and years if needs be on the ground to make sure she is as comfortable and if one day she can be ridden, that is wonderful.
The horse you are looking at I would view the same. Based purely on the very poor photos I have seen (poor as in not stood up properly) I wouldn’t look at him as a riding horse, but a horse who needs a significant amount of correct, slow, careful, thoughtful groundwork to develop his balance, his posture and his musculature to then see if one day he might then be suitable for ridden work.
With both the horse you are looking at, and my little mare, you could easily crack on and enjoy riding them. They have nice temperaments and would tolerate it for a while, but muscles and bones, conformation and posture don’t lie, and both horses would suffer for having those weaknesses ignored for the sake of their human having some fun for a year or two until they break down.
The horse you are looking at I would view the same. Based purely on the very poor photos I have seen (poor as in not stood up properly) I wouldn’t look at him as a riding horse, but a horse who needs a significant amount of correct, slow, careful, thoughtful groundwork to develop his balance, his posture and his musculature to then see if one day he might then be suitable for ridden work.
With both the horse you are looking at, and my little mare, you could easily crack on and enjoy riding them. They have nice temperaments and would tolerate it for a while, but muscles and bones, conformation and posture don’t lie, and both horses would suffer for having those weaknesses ignored for the sake of their human having some fun for a year or two until they break down.
IMJS97
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I love this. Exactly this. It’s not just about the riding but a horse who is kind and who I truly love and want to spend many happy times with, even if some of those times are inevitably tough. Many people would sadly buy this sort of horse and just do far too much with it purely for their own enjoyment.
Thank you for this, a very refreshing outlook
good luck with your girl!Gingerbrat
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Yes, I bought a weak ex racer who'd had a winter of hacking. Quiet as pie, didn't react to birds flying up between his legs, nothing. When he put on condition, he was a big, sharp horse.
mini-eventer
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I've seen it a fair few times at the livery yard I worked on. They don't tend to get silly until after the weight and muscle comes back on, because they feel weak. Once they feel strong they change.
Bobthecob15
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Oh great something for me to look forward to then!! I’ve got one that fits this description too
vickyb
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He is being fed 'so much' but is still in very lean condition. Apart from anything else that may or may not be wrong, I would be concerned that he is a very poor doer and keeping weight on him is going to cause you no end of problems.
spacefaer
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Speaking from hard won experience , seasoned hunters are not necessarily delights on fun rides. 
Nor are they always sensible if you subsequently only take them out a few times a season. Some "perfect" hunters need to go every week to maintain their sensible heads.
Nor are they always sensible if you subsequently only take them out a few times a season. Some "perfect" hunters need to go every week to maintain their sensible heads.
spacefaer
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Also I'd probably know a nought off the price of the original horse.
MissMay
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Absolutely 100% agree with this.Speaking from hard won experience , seasoned hunters are not necessarily delights on fun rides.
Nor are they always sensible if you subsequently only take them out a few times a season. Some "perfect" hunters need to go every week to maintain their sensible heads.
In fact the ones I have hated taking to non hunting events are always seasoned hunters.
Also you don't want a horse that has only been out once or twice as usually its not till a good few goes the excitement kicks in as they haven't figured out the ropes etc Once they realise the horn means go or what's going on that's when they become over excited prior to that it's a jolly with no anticipation of what's next
9tails
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My spidey senses are going off like the clappers.
First time owner but is apparently experienced with youngsters, rides ex racehorses all the time but wants a very safe allrounder horse, won't consider a horse that occasionally needs a gag.
First time owner but is apparently experienced with youngsters, rides ex racehorses all the time but wants a very safe allrounder horse, won't consider a horse that occasionally needs a gag.
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And doesn't respond to posts that 2 of us in the county have made, just ignored....
PurpleSpots
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Is there really any need for this?
Season of goodwill and all that?
Season of goodwill and all that?
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