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Why do people put price on application in horse sales ads. Are they embarrassed by the price or do they love people ringing up asking the price. Had one cheeky b*****r say I am not telling you until you see the horse. I said I am not travelling 3 hours to find I can't afford it.

As if I have nothing better to do to ring up people ask the price and find out it is not in my budget.

So if you are selling a horse put the price in.

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Jana
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So if you are selling a horse put the price in.



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NO!!!
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Yes the seller should give you the price if you call but there are so many reasons for putting this on.

Usually it is so the seller can find the right home for the animal and they may reduce the price for the right home. They want people to search for the right horse rather than the right price.
 
weve recently advertised a pony with POA, its not out of embarrassement about price its just so as not to have to advertise the amount. personally though id never ring up about a POA as i wouldnt be able to afford one... lucky we got this pony as a 5 y/old! POA tends to be used for horses for sale over £20000.
 
When I was looking for a new boy/girl I wouldn't bother to 'phone any P.O.A.'s as my range was £2,500 (savings) - £5k, would have to borrow if I went to that and didn't really think I could justify spending that sort of money on basically a hack/occassional hunter/ small local shows.......plus I'm sure they would have all been way over what I could sensible afford, as it happens I found the ideal boy for me by word of mouth after 6 months of looking for a very fair price.
 
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So if you are selling a horse put the price in.



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Yes the seller should give you the price if you call but there are so many reasons for putting this on.

Usually it is so the seller can find the right home for the animal and they may reduce the price for the right home. They want people to search for the right horse rather than the right price.

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Thats one reason , Also there is a few nosey people about that I know of and I would rather "they" didn't know what I want for my animals .

I don't mind telling folk the price when they ring , but I will suss out those that are genuine .
 
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I actually put price on application .
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What I don't do is put price on inspection
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Oh yes, price on inspection is far worse, and very common over here
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or the other thing I hate is "oh I'm sure we'll come to some agreement" when you ask how much.
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i had someone ring up about a pony we sold last year (with price on the advert) and they immediately asked if it was negotiable... the pony had been advertised for a day... if you cant afford dont ring. that really annoys me! its a good reason to put POA... it tends to put off some people who otherwise waste your time.
 
it would put me off ringing even and if I see a poa ad I too just skip on by as I just assume I cannot afford the horse and he or she will be above £15k. That said, if there is a price on the ad I would never dream of calling and asking for a reduction or negotiation! How can you reduce or negotiate without even having seen the horse.

I really do not like ads without pictures though but that's a whole other thread
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I would thought POA would waste your time. From some of the descriptions you wouldn't know what the price would be esp the current market so you end up ringing people. I remember chatting to one girl and she said that I was ideal for the horse. Then I remembered to ask the price which was approx £3k over budget at that time. And my hubby would have killed me if I had bought a horse at that price.
 
As I said, you should be searching for the right horse not the right price. If the right horse is too expensive then just move on and find another....

I'm not likely to sell any of mine but I wouldn't sell to someone who was buying because it was the right price....
 
Putting on a 20k plus horse or pony might also encourage people to joy ride. "I rode a 50k horse today" and such like. If I was selling an expensive animal I would use POA or Substantial Price Required on the advert.

I do not understand people who put cheaper ie run of the mill pony club/riding club horses who are worth under 5k as POA. POA is more for the top end of the market where people will be expecting to pay a large amount.
 
Its just stupid.. you can gaurantee they will try to "talk up" what there selling then tell you a price much higher than the going rate,, or the person dosnt know what its worth and wants you to value the item this seems to apply to horse sales commercial vehicle sellers also do this .. Its usealy a waste of time phoning, it would be acceptable to put a guide price or say offers over whatever.. The old saying if you have to ask the price you cant afford it is surely true ...
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Lol! I have just put 3 of my horses up for POA
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. The reason being, they are younger horses who have shown great potential and have winnings under their belt now. We are at the tail end of one year, and this is the cheaper part of the year; next year the prices will change as the horses earn more winnings, hence the price will also increase. Saves me changing their prices online.

I never call about horses who are advertised as POA though
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, but then I am not looking to spend fortunes on buying horses, only looking for a fortune on selling them
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I wouldn't say anyone ignored what you said, I think we just have different views. I don't think you can generalise that people are not right for a horse if they are looking at price. Everyone has a price in mind - and a budget - no matter how big or small, when they are looking after all. I can't imagine a scenario where someone goes out with a £10k budget and sees a horse that would be ideal for them and suddenly they can afford £30k instead
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I actually quite like sites where they give a price band, ie Band A 2-5k Band B 5-10k etc. Then at least you can look at various horses within those bands. I will always pay a good price for the right horse, but give me a ball park figure at least
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As I said, you should be searching for the right horse not the right price. If the right horse is too expensive then just move on and find another....



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But how do you know the price is not within range if you don't know the price? Not all POA's are expensive.
 
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Not all POA's are expensive.

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that's what I'm trying to say too! I wouldn't get more than 2k for any of mine but still wouldn't want someone to buy one of them just because they could afford them.
 
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that's what I'm trying to say too! I wouldn't get more than 2k for any of mine but still wouldn't want someone to buy one of them just because they could afford them.

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i think advertising 2k horses as POA defeats the object and must surely make them less sellable as people would see POA and think they cant afford it. Ive only ever seen POA on adverts where you can take a guess the horse is worth 20k plus, occasionally 15k+ but thats still a bit silly to POA it really... imo
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i think advertising 2k horses as POA defeats the object and must surely make them less sellable as people would see POA and think they cant afford it.

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Well they wouldn't be the kind of people I'd want to sell to
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The right horse for me would be something which has a few wins under his belt showjumping who can take me further...but at the moment I have a 15.1 mongrel who cant trot who I got from a dealer for £200.

Your telling me just because I havent got £7k to spend on a showjumper that type of horse is not 'right' for me, and I should always be riding the rescue cases who wouldn't know a bascule from a half=pass?
 
The majoirty of POA's are top range prices- I would certainly expect it to be over £10K.
Rather like houses and estates in Country Life at POA.
It's also used well known ones, to give a small amount of financial privacy to the vendor and purchaser.

As to comments re the right person for the horse, having a huge amount of cash available does not mean it's the wrong person for the horse.
 
It is simple.

If you want to put of a high percentage of potential buyers put POA on the advert.

prehaps its for a hores you really don't want to sell who knows!
 
i think POA on a horse you kind of dont want to sell is great... and then if you get offered a lot of money it may be too tempting to keep! but doesnt mean just because the person is rich they could have my horse!
i completely disagree with the concept of if they have a lot of money you wouldnt sell them your horse, just because someone's lucky enough to be able to pay alot for a horse does in no way mean theyre a worse off home? if you have, say, 30k to spend it doesnt mean you wouldnt ring up about a 7k horse? but if you have a lower budget you are unlikely to ring up about a POA... i'd consider it a waste of the sellers and of my time...? as in general POA is for expensive horses that are top class in whatever discipline.
right home is more important than price i get, but i wouldnt sell a 30k horse for 10k just to the perfect home - theres enough good homes out there who would have the money. just as i wouldnt put a price up on a horse if i didnt think the potential buyer was right - i think that would be completely immoral!
 
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i think advertising 2k horses as POA defeats the object and must surely make them less sellable as people would see POA and think they cant afford it.



Well they wouldn't be the kind of people I'd want to sell to

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I have to be honest, I am COMPLETELY confused by this... so you are saying that despite the fact your ponies are being sold at the cheaper end of the market, you do not want to sell your ponies to people who are only able to afford to buy at the cheaper end of the market?


This seem bonkers to me (sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick here).

Firstly, why would somoene with a limitless budget, neccessarily be looking at the £2000 market.

Secondly, even if they WERE looking at the £2000 market, why would the fact they theoretically they could pay more make them better buyers?

Thirdly, why does only having a small budget, make someone 'the type of person I don't don't wouldn't want to sell to'.
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Could you explain a little more about how you are assessing potential buyers based on the POA system for cheaper ponies? thanks
 
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i think advertising 2k horses as POA defeats the object and must surely make them less sellable as people would see POA and think they cant afford it.



Well they wouldn't be the kind of people I'd want to sell to

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I have to be honest, I am COMPLETELY confused by this... so you are saying that despite the fact your ponies are being sold at the cheaper end of the market, you do not want to sell your ponies to people who are only able to afford to buy at the cheaper end of the market?


This seem bonkers to me (sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick here).

Firstly, why would somoene with a limitless budget, neccessarily be looking at the £2000 market.

Secondly, even if they WERE looking at the £2000 market, why would the fact they theoretically they could pay more make them better buyers?

Thirdly, why does only having a small budget, make someone 'the type of person I don't don't wouldn't want to sell to'.
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Could you explain a little more about how you are assessing potential buyers based on the POA system for cheaper ponies? thanks

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NO! You've got completely the wrong end of the stick....I would want someone to come and look at them because they liked the look of the horse and the horse was suitable for them rather than it just being in their price range!!! I would want someone looking for say a nice 1st pony rather than just a 2k pony, if you see what I mean. Anyway, safe to say that I wont be selling any of mine so it's all irrelevant really.
 
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