pup advice please

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Right here we go,a bit of history first.Pup is 4 months old now.

During the day he comes to work with me.He has a walk first thing and then goes into the crate in the back of my van,where he crashes out for a couple of hours.At break time he comes out has a pee and we have a play for 20 mins.Then back into the crate till lunchtime.He has his dinner and then we go for a walk. Back into the crate, then onto the horses.He gets taken for a walk to do what he has to do.Everything ok , a simple routine we have got ourselves into. It's the evenings we have problems with.
He just stands there and pee's on my carpet.Doesn't even ask to go out.It is driving me barmy.I am up and down like a yoyo.Chucking him out every half an hour to no avail.Took him for another walk this evening and he didn't pee at all but waited till we got and then proceeded to pee on the kitchen floor.

He has access to water at home but obviously at work when he is in the crate he doesn't until I get him out.Do you think it's possible because of the restricted access during the day that he may be drinking more in the evening - it is not excessive I hasten to add and that is why he feels the need to pee more often.

He is not under the weather and is bright as a button so I don't think there is a medical problem.

Any hints or tips to get us through this, so I can save my carpets:D
 
I took up all carpets and tiled downstairs:o mostly due to the mud as opposed to any weeing. I think a really loud shouted 'No!' and take him straight outside, even mid wee. We did this when Bear just didn't seem to get the whole toileting thing. OH grabbed his scruff and took him out.
 
It sounds like he just doesn't fully understand yet.

Are you going crazy and giving him treats when he does go outside?

I would say a loud word to distract him and calmly pick him up and take him outside. Don't be mean or scruff him or scare him or you risk creating a puppy who will go and hide in the house to pee.
 
I do praise him when he goes outside. Not into rubbing their noses in it.I do tell him off and he looks a bit sheepish but by that time it is to late. I am finding it hard but then I haven't had a dog dog before. I have only ever had bitches in the past and they were easy to train.Are dogs harder to train than bitches?
 
I had very few accidents with my pup at 4 months.I shouted out garden if he had accident it stopped him mid wee then praised him when he weed outside I also sprayed area with bio fresh so the scent marker had been eliminated.Like yours he peed more in evening.
I did find he drunk alot lot less liquid once I switched him onto raw food from dried feed as he wasnt so thirsty.Ive just realised at 6 months he hasnt had accident for couple of weeks :D
Mine wouldnt pee when out for walks for while so as soon as we came home he went out mins later and relieved himself at home.They seem to need their scent maybe he has scent at your work place but not at home.
 
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could you crate him once in the house,and allowed out freguently for play and straight out for wees then back in crate..dogs dont like to soil their own beds

time spent in crate will get shorter the more hes clean..as hes used of being in the crate in the car and can hold himself until you take him out
he is still very young and some will take longer to house train than others
when he wees or can catch him say nothing and put him outside straight away no eye contact..once weeing outside then praise
when you speak and saying no etc to him when weeing in the house,your giving him attention for weeing if that makes sense
feeding barf will reduce his water intake
 
lurchers can be slow learners and i regret to say quite lazy when it comes to asking to go out! my friend has many and her 10mth old still has the odd accident over night still,she also has a 6mth old who is being a nightmare to house train! a firm no and just keep sticking him out as soon as he's done it is best,anytime he does anything outside even in the day i would be praising and rewarding like mad. Make sure you use a spray that removes the scent of the wee completely this ones good:
http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Totalcare-Odour_Stain-Remover-375ml-spray/productinfo/TOTALCARE/
otherwise he will def wee again in the same place or near to it.
 
I used to go outside with mine not just put them outside until they'd done it, because then you are not there to really praise them, I mean go really mad really animated, my GSD died at 6 and half but up til he died he still looked to me for praise when he went to no 1's or no 2's he even used to copy my bitch who used to scrape grass with her back legs over where she'd been, he used to do it too not really knowing what or why he was doing it, bless him.

In the beginning he used to stand there and pee, I ended up taking carpet up and just having the tiles which were already underneath. He soon learned with the praise method.

Springer I've got now rarely goes to either in the garden although she's gettng better with peeing, I dont' want her holding it all day, she has access to the garden all day. She's only been once to no 2's in the 2 years we had her in the garden because she was ill. She's 3 in March luckily was already house trained when we had her at 1
 
What Haycroft said re crate, don't allow him in any room you are not in at the time, otherwise you cannot correct him and by this I mean take him by the collar and place him out.
If you use the crate , and everytime he is released its straight to toilet, he may start doing it as soon as he is released, put him back in crate if u see no evidence of passing from the window and repeat, till as suggested by HC he spents more time in the crate in the house now but you can then decrease as he becomes clean.
Aslo google pee post and invest in one, this may encourage him.
Is your garden concrete or grass?
 
Hello,
We taught Winston to associate a word with weeing: "Wee Wee Wee Wee We". It was very useful when he was a pup to avoid standing outside in the cold for too long! Just say the word you choose when he is weeing and he should associate, mind winston is very quick at learning words. When my OH is going in the tractor or car for a while he will make him have a wee before proving very useful!
 
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