Puppies. 🤦‍♀️

[P3LH]

i can’t think of anyone I would trust. Things like you never tell a worker off for carrying or chewing, even if it’s your diamond necklace or your new Jimmy Choos. There’s so much early stuff that can make your life difficult if done wrong. Quite possibly this will be my last worker so I’m treating myself to something without baggage. I don’t then want it to collect some growing up!
Next door have offered but their collies free range and their last lab they ran over.

From having relied on others help (including more from OH who would usually just do the fussing, spoiling and teaching annoying habits) this has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks for me.

I’m rigid and set in my ways with training from the words I use to the way I like dogs to stand in relation to me when we are at a stop (I know, I need to get a grip but it’s how my brain manages several dogs at once) and have found I spend a lot of time undoing well meaning peoples basics/natural behaviour. By the latter I mean even to the habits pups get in to with how someone lets them through a door, or how someone serves their meals - I don’t overly communicate verbally with my dogs unless I am actually telling them what I want them to do/praising them. He is one that’s definitely spent a lot of time with chatter so everything is very exciting and as a result he is very irritating with it (I do love him, I promise but I think you and CC will know what I mean - we all have our habits of how we do things) and I have to smile and bite my tongue because others have helped me out with him.

It was worsened by him dislocating a shoulder and spending nearly three weeks on crate rest so missing a lot of walking socialising (now likes to bark at other dogs if I don’t let him stop to say hello - we will be having NONE of that I can tell you!)

 

[Clodagh]

From having relied on others help (including more from OH who would usually just do the fussing, spoiling and teaching annoying habits) this has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks for me.

I’m rigid and set in my ways with training from the words I use to the way I like dogs to stand in relation to me when we are at a stop (I know, I need to get a grip but it’s how my brain manages several dogs at once) and have found I spend a lot of time undoing well meaning peoples basics/natural behaviour. By the latter I mean even to the habits pups get in to with how someone lets them through a door, or how someone serves their meals - I don’t overly communicate verbally with my dogs unless I am actually telling them what I want them to do/praising them. He is one that’s definitely spent a lot of time with chatter so everything is very exciting and as a result he is very irritating with it (I do love him, I promise but I think you and CC will know what I mean - we all have our habits of how we do things) and I have to smile and bite my tongue because others have helped me out with him.

It was worsened by him dislocating a shoulder and spending nearly three weeks on crate rest so missing a lot of walking socialising (now likes to bark at other dogs if I don’t let him stop to say hello - we will be having NONE of that I can tell you!)

Is he a collie? I assume not another corgi? And how on earth did he hurt his shoulder? They do like to try us!

 

[P3LH]

Is he a collie? I assume not another corgi? And how on earth did he hurt his shoulder? They do like to try us!

He’s a purpose bred x breed that isn’t a Lurcher, which I know is sacrilege on here but we like him! This time was OH’s choice but a friend has the same, and we met a few others who were related and I was happy to compromise.

As much of a nit wit as he is this wasn’t actually his fault, an oversexed and under trained miniature poodle hurt him whilst mounting him/there was a tussle which ensued as a result, and a hefty vets bill which followed !

 

[druid]

Send it out for residential training for a few months

 

[skinnydipper]

He’s a purpose bred x breed that isn’t a Lurcher, which I know is sacrilege on here but we like him! This time was OH’s choice but a friend has the same, and we met a few others who were related and I was happy to compromise.

As much of a nit wit as he is this wasn’t actually his fault, an oversexed and under trained miniature poodle hurt him whilst mounting him/there was a tussle which ensued as a result, and a hefty vets bill which followed !

Do we have to try and guess the X, or are you going to tell us

Cockapoo?

 

[P3LH]

Do we have to try and guess the X, or are you going to tell us

Cockapoo?

Nothing with poodle in - he is just a x breed, (not just as in lesser so than other residents, more in a just William sense) but he fits the bill and even mini Mugabe is happy with him.

 

[skinnydipper]

He’s a purpose bred x breed that isn’t a Lurcher,

Which breeds? Is it a secret?

 

[P3LH]

Which breedsi? Is it a secret?

He is a spitz cross, albeit different spitz breeds hence a x breed. It seems pointy ears, pointy faces and noisy are the requisite for living here. Part Klee Kai and part German Spitz with a bit of American Eskimo dog which is technically the same thing. Currently has weird New Romantic style hair. Horses for courses, sure there are pure breeds that would have fit the bill too but he’s who we went for and thus far, circumstances aside and based on him as an individual alone, he seems a good fit.

I was offered a papillon x border collie from an agility litter recently. If the above hadn’t come home already I think I’d have been tempted.

I’d like another rough collie one day, but not yet. It still felt too soon. I fear it always may.

 

[Clodagh]

Send it out for residential training for a few months

Doesn’t really need training at that age though? I did ask SK if he would have her and I think he actually dithered, or maybe he was just being polite.

 

[TheresaW]

I offered. I did forget she would also learn to sing as well

 

[SilverLinings]

Not unheard of, but the dog is getting older and will stand down at some point.
I’m never going to trial, I just like the trials bred hard wired Uber driven dogs.
I really need a pup born December/ January that will be calm, settled and ok in a kennel or for OH to be able to walk with the others by September.

As none of us know what is around the corner, if something happened in the dog's life (or the bitch's if you're keen on her too) that meant he couldn't breed again would you regret not having bought this puppy?

 

[druid]

Doesn’t really need training at that age though? I did ask SK if he would have her and I think he actually dithered, or maybe he was just being polite.

I beg to differ....depends on the trainer though!

 

[Clodagh]

As none of us know what is around the corner, if something happened in the dog's life (or the bitch's if you're keen on her too) that meant he couldn't breed again would you regret not having bought this puppy?

A bit but not insurmountably so.
I did show my OH her photos and he said no. I know he’s right or I’d go and get her anyway and just manage somehow!
If I get my partridge dates and there aren’t many and she is still for sale then it’s meant to be.
You are all very patient with me.

I WANT ALL THE PUPPIES!

 

[Clodagh]

I beg to differ....depends on the trainer though!

I think I’d feel it was unnecessary as I can do all the starter stuff reasonably competently. And it would cost more than I earn in a season!

 

[P3LH]

A bit but not insurmountably so.
I did show my OH her photos and he said no. I know he’s right or I’d go and get her anyway and just manage somehow!
If I get my partridge dates and there aren’t many and she is still for sale then it’s meant to be.
You are all very patient with me.

I WANT ALL THE PUPPIES!

If it at all sways you - we had the day today. The click day. For he and I.

I’ve had three delightful (short) training sessions today where he’s been fully compliant but also completely engaged/eyes on. We then had a walk with perfect loose lead walking to heel the whole way (bit moany about crossing a busy road) and as we sat at the side of the river watching the world go by I did think ‘well, I wouldn’t be without him now’ (probably the first time I’ve thought it being fully transparent!!)

It’s so worth it.

 

[Spotherisk]

So… are you getting the puppy?

 

[druid]

I run on lots of pups for people that they don't have time for. Usually leave at 9-12 months. Nice to watch them working or trialling later on. Needn't cost a fortune

 

[P3LH]

So… are you getting the puppy?

She’s getting the puppy.

 

[Clodagh]

I’m not getting the puppy.
I’m not sure being a grown up agrees with me.
Eating crisps now.

 

[Clodagh]

I run on lots of pups for people that they don't have time for. Usually leave at 9-12 months. Nice to watch them working or trialling later on. Needn't cost a fortune

Would you like this one? Pm me how much…
Scrap that, the border stuff way too complex!

 

[druid]

Would you like this one? Pm me how much…
Scrap that, the border stuff way too complex!

I have 2 in currently and show bred Springie arriving so no space or I would (current one is Scottish and came via Belfast, no papwerwork required)

 

[SilverLinings]

A bit but not insurmountably so.
I did show my OH her photos and he said no. I know he’s right or I’d go and get her anyway and just manage somehow!
If I get my partridge dates and there aren’t many and she is still for sale then it’s meant to be.
You are all very patient with me.

I WANT ALL THE PUPPIES!

That, combined with the fact you said you wouldn't miss the puppy if you didn't buy and had very few shooting days this autumn, makes me think that you've made the right decision to hold off. If it was me I would only go ahead if I Knew I would regret missing out on that exact puppy if I didn't. I can see why it has been a difficult decision though.

 

[Clodagh]

That, combined with the fact you said you wouldn't miss the puppy if you didn't buy and had very few shooting days this autumn, makes me think that you've made the right decision to hold off. If it was me I would only go ahead if I Knew I would regret missing out on that exact puppy if I didn't. I can see why it has been a difficult decision though.

Oh to have presentience. (If that’s the word).
I’m assuming my oldest dog will do two more full seasons and then need to step down just to the smaller days.
I’m assuming all the others will stay fit and well.
As long as all those assumptions work out I don’t need a pup until next year.

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

i can’t think of anyone I would trust. Things like you never tell a worker off for carrying or chewing, even if it’s your diamond necklace or your new Jimmy Choos. There’s so much early stuff that can make your life difficult if done wrong. Quite possibly this will be my last worker so I’m treating myself to something without baggage. I don’t then want it to collect some growing up!
Next door have offered but their collies free range and their last lab they ran over.

When you put it like that which I all agree with id probably wait too

 

[Spotherisk]

Oh to have presentience. (If that’s the word).
I’m assuming my oldest dog will do two more full seasons and then need to step down just to the smaller days.
I’m assuming all the others will stay fit and well.
As long as all those assumptions work out I don’t need a pup until next year.

Stay away from the wire…

 

[Cortez]

Doesn't anybody take the time to train pups to stay on their own occasionally? Same as with horses, I make sure mine get used to being left on their own. They don't particularly like it, especially in the beginning, but they've got to be alone sometimes, that's just life.

 

[Clodagh]

Doesn't anybody take the time to train pups to stay on their own occasionally? Same as with horses, I make sure mine get used to being left on their own. They don't particularly like it, especially in the beginning, but they've got to be alone sometimes, that's just life.

But not for 10 hours at 4 months? Or I don’t anyway, what works for some won’t work for all.
Yes mine are all left for many hours as adults.

 

[Cortez]

But not for 10 hours at 4 months? Or I don’t anyway, what works for some won’t work for all.
Yes mine are all left for many hours as adults.

Hmm, yes, that's too long. Is there anybody who could come and take for a quick walk during the day?

 

[Clodagh]

Hmm, yes, that's too long. Is there anybody who could come and take for a quick walk during the day?

Sadly not that I trust enough.
I am a control freak.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

He is a spitz cross, albeit different spitz breeds hence a x breed. It seems pointy ears, pointy faces and noisy are the requisite for living here. Part Klee Kai and part German Spitz with a bit of American Eskimo dog which is technically the same thing. Currently has weird New Romantic style hair. Horses for courses, sure there are pure breeds that would have fit the bill too but he’s who we went for and thus far, circumstances aside and based on him as an individual alone, he seems a good fit.

I was offered a papillon x border collie from an agility litter recently. If the above hadn’t come home already I think I’d have been tempted.

I’d like another rough collie one day, but not yet. It still felt too soon. I fear it always may.

I’d love to see a photo. I had a sneaky look for puppies today but couldn’t find any.

But not for 10 hours at 4 months? Or I don’t anyway, what works for some won’t work for all.
Yes mine are all left for many hours as adults.

This is why we aim for school summer holidays when we get ours. Miserable fail last time!