Pearlsacarolsinger
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I don't get the idea of 'my' dog in a family home tbh, and I'm not going to get into the sleeping arrangements of you and OH
Puppy night time... getting worse?
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I don't get the idea of 'my' dog in a family home tbh, and I'm not going to get into the sleeping arrangements of you and OH
Clodagh
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I don't get the idea of 'my' dog in a family home tbh, and I'm not going to get into the sleeping arrangements of you and OH
LOL Well we have four but only one is allowed on the bed.
And as for my OH...
Seeing she is a whippet I think it has been covered by an actual whippet owner but I hear they are prone to needinees and being clingy. Can they wear rugs overnight? I bet she is cold, too.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
i tried to leav my little terrier in his crate downstairs with my other dog in the same room. he shrieked his head off and as i am in a terraced property and one of my neighbours was a lorry driver who had to get up at 5 am i couldnt leave him to make so much noise. i had his cage in my bedroom right next to the bed so i could put my hand through the bars of the cage to reassure him. i think he was in the bedroom for a couple of weeks and then progressed to downstairs and was fine. if you join any of the whippet groups on facebook you will see that you are not alone as whippets seem to be very needy...you can also ask for advice on there. if your other half's dog is vaccinated he should be fine to mix with yours.. when i got my puppy he had to mix with my other dog straight away..
L&M
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Whippets are notorious for separation anxiety - we tried to crate train ours but he only got worse as the night's went on. We compromised by leaving him in the kitchen, with our other dog for company, and scheduled night time toileting. He will still occasionally whine at night but we now feel confident we can ignore him as a not a hunger or toileting issue.
He is still at his happiest snuggled up in bed with us though, and we allow both through in the morning whilst we have a coffee in bed!
He is still at his happiest snuggled up in bed with us though, and we allow both through in the morning whilst we have a coffee in bed!
Moobli
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I don't get the idea of 'my' dog in a family home tbh, and I'm not going to get into the sleeping arrangements of you and OH
why not? My dogs are mine, hubby’s dogs are his. There’s no way he’d be having mine if we divorced.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
Aphria
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My 12wk old Lurcher just sleeps in his comfy bed downstairs in the kitchen. We just leave a dim light on for him and there hasn't been a peep. We do have a crate for him but decided against it for nighttime. He wasn't toilet trained when we got him 2 weeks ago so I didn't feel comfortable caging him. I just cleaned up the mess on the floor when I came down at 7.00. He always peed away from his bed so I thought it would cause anxiety if he was forced to do it where he slept. Anyway, 2 weeks on and he's been holding it himself from 10.30ish to 7.00 so I havent been coming down to a mess. I think we're lucky with him perhaps, but I feel it would be different story in the crate. For him anyway.
paddy555
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this is what I would do in theory with a dog bed by the bed so I could reach down and stroke the pup. I would crate train later. In practise however I would follow GS's suggestion. The dog would sleep in the bed with me. There is no way I could let that gorgeous pup cry. It would be best we slept together and both got a decent night's sleep.
SOS
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I know whippets have a reputation for being very clingy. Luckily she will be coming to work with my everyday so won’t be alone much, however at night time hopefully we will be able to train a separate sleep!
I chose the breed, for many reasons but also as my partner also has a 7/8 whippet(that sleeps fine in a crate) and so do about 15 of our friends! I r think they have become a very popular country dog in recent years. All of our friends dogs, bar two families, sleep away from the owners. So I know it is possible but will just take time and perhaps more effort than other breeds.
I chose the breed, for many reasons but also as my partner also has a 7/8 whippet(that sleeps fine in a crate) and so do about 15 of our friends! I r think they have become a very popular country dog in recent years. All of our friends dogs, bar two families, sleep away from the owners. So I know it is possible but will just take time and perhaps more effort than other breeds.
SusieT
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I dont think you are doing anything wrong as such, its just bad timing, have you tried a low radio? clock with heartbeat?
I actually think you are doing everything right.
What about a stuffed kong for when you put her back in crate?
I'd alaso take neighbours a box of choc, wine and ear plugs and say so sorry, shes just settling and will soon be over it (but bear in mind you may need to compromise onw here she sleeps if she really isnt settling if only to avoid pissing off neighbour..)
I actually think you are doing everything right.
What about a stuffed kong for when you put her back in crate?
I'd alaso take neighbours a box of choc, wine and ear plugs and say so sorry, shes just settling and will soon be over it (but bear in mind you may need to compromise onw here she sleeps if she really isnt settling if only to avoid pissing off neighbour..)
SusieT
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ps- I would crate train now, I think its an excellent idea. I wouldnt have her loose for same reasons as you.
SusieT
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also- if it doesnt settle soon - get a behaviourist out so you can nip a problem in the bud. Try an adaptil collar/pet remedy spray.
Moobli
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Mine are companions first and foremost.
SOS
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The clock idea I may as well try, just now where to get a clock from...
Also will try radio/music, I’m a fairly heavy sleeper... also why I’ve been coping okayish 4 days in.
As per previous post, if anything she is too warm, I have the underfloor heating on all the time, it’s nearly 21c in there at all times! (Heating is included in bills) Hence also why she has lots of blankets on one side then a thinner side.
This is very much on the agenda if things don’t improve within a week or so. I’m a big believer in professional help!!
Also will try radio/music, I’m a fairly heavy sleeper... also why I’ve been coping okayish 4 days in.
As per previous post, if anything she is too warm, I have the underfloor heating on all the time, it’s nearly 21c in there at all times! (Heating is included in bills) Hence also why she has lots of blankets on one side then a thinner side.
This is very much on the agenda if things don’t improve within a week or so. I’m a big believer in professional help!!
SAujla
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Can you sleep downstairs just for a few nights and then move back up after that? I'd also start pushing the 3am toilet break back slowly to 3.15am then 3.30am etc. Don't have to physical a play session before sleeping, sometimes it can raise their energy levels a lot, if the pup has a favourite chew toy let them chew on that before sleeping.
I'd also definitely get a crate cover as well, can find one to fit your crate on amazon.
I'd also definitely get a crate cover as well, can find one to fit your crate on amazon.
chaps89
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I'm afraid I can't help on the problem front as it's many many years since I had a puppy.
But I just had to say she's gorgeous!
But I just had to say she's gorgeous!
SOS
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We have the play at 8.30 after dinner and normally lasts until 9.30 then start to wind down.
I’m happy to sleep downstairs. I can sleep most places and be fairly happy.
Annette4
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I think I've been a very lucky sighthound owner as both of mine whinged a bit on the first night or two then slept through. I found with Dobby that toilet breaks in the night made him worse so stopped those and he slept through. That being said mine have always had another dog in the crate next to them.
Some like to be snuggled (Fizz weirdly doesn't for a bed, she only wants to be under a blanket on the sofa) but does insist on her pj's when it's cold. The whole street knows if I've not put them on! Whereas Dobby doesn't much need pj's but wants a blanket to bury himself under
I have always left mine to cry it out which has always worked but it might be a case of seeing what works be it the radio, no toilet breaks, a jumper etc.
Some like to be snuggled (Fizz weirdly doesn't for a bed, she only wants to be under a blanket on the sofa) but does insist on her pj's when it's cold. The whole street knows if I've not put them on! Whereas Dobby doesn't much need pj's but wants a blanket to bury himself under
I have always left mine to cry it out which has always worked but it might be a case of seeing what works be it the radio, no toilet breaks, a jumper etc.
SOS
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Right.. after much deliberation here is tonight’s plan.
I haven’t managed to source a clock.
We will be sleeping the lounge in a covered crate with myself on the sofa with the aim to get a quieter night and move her slowly away. We will not be having a toilet break unless she’s quiet than starts whining. We are having a later dinner than usual. We are going to have quiet music on. The cat will be allowed in and various other things. Tomorrow morning we are going to get wine and headphones for the neighbour!
Thankyou you for all the advice and nice comments about her. Her name is Mouse and here she is with her best friend Badger the cat.
I haven’t managed to source a clock.
We will be sleeping the lounge in a covered crate with myself on the sofa with the aim to get a quieter night and move her slowly away. We will not be having a toilet break unless she’s quiet than starts whining. We are having a later dinner than usual. We are going to have quiet music on. The cat will be allowed in and various other things. Tomorrow morning we are going to get wine and headphones for the neighbour!
Thankyou you for all the advice and nice comments about her. Her name is Mouse and here she is with her best friend Badger the cat.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
The first few nights I did stay with mine after night time toilet breaks, next to the crate listening to music on headphones and then crept back to bed once she'd gone over ?
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
She is probably missing the cat but I would be reluctant to suggest leaving the cat in the crate, just in case. A cat can do a lot of damage in a short time to a small pup. How would you feel about leaving the crate door open to allow the cat access?
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I just took it to mean the cat being in the same room.
SOS
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Yes that’s what I meant! Cat always sleeps with me (don’t judge my cat dog bias) so he will be on sofa with me most likely. Not in the crate! I was joking earlier, I would not put two animals in a crate together and obviously there are many reasons that is not a good idea, including the stress to the cat at not being able to access his resources and being in a cage.
HashRouge
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I know nothing about training puppies but oh my goodness that photo ?
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
Yes that's what I meant in my first post but I can see why pup feels bereft overnight if she and the cat get on so well and spend time cuddling as closely as in that photo. This is one reason why I always prefer to have 2 pups, except in particular circumstances.
SOS
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Very positive update, silent with myself sleeping in the same room. And I mean silent, whimpered for maybe 10 seconds which I ‘shh’d’ then she slept all night.
The crate WAS covered with two blankets and box on top to stop them moving if she clawed at the side. When I woke up the cat had removed the blanket and had it half way across the room as a bed...!
We also didn’t have music on or anything as tbh I forgot... I was a bit zombie like by yesterday bed.
No accidents and just been out for her morning toilet. We are going to have a play and breakfast.
Now I guess it will be slowly weaning her away from me over the next few weeks. I think tomorrow we may try on the other side of the room (partially in my sight and can still hear me breathing).
The crate WAS covered with two blankets and box on top to stop them moving if she clawed at the side. When I woke up the cat had removed the blanket and had it half way across the room as a bed...!
We also didn’t have music on or anything as tbh I forgot... I was a bit zombie like by yesterday bed.
No accidents and just been out for her morning toilet. We are going to have a play and breakfast.
Now I guess it will be slowly weaning her away from me over the next few weeks. I think tomorrow we may try on the other side of the room (partially in my sight and can still hear me breathing).
Clodagh
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Well done, that sounds great.
Clodagh
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J
Same, the yellows are mine and the blacks his. If we split up that’s how they would go too.
Same with my first marriage, I had one and he had one, here was no debate about who had which.
Same, the yellows are mine and the blacks his. If we split up that’s how they would go too.
Same with my first marriage, I had one and he had one, here was no debate about who had which.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
dont try and move it too fast just because one night went well. i would do 2 or 3 nights as you are so she stays confident and then slowly move away. if you rush it now you may put her back even further.. glad you have had one good night though...
Moobli
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definitely this ?? You need her to feel relaxed and secure before moving on to the next phase.