ragwort I have had it with the myths

EstherHegt said:
I also! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G_zSos8w_I But to be serious.... read what I wrote and think about the ragwort lies and what the press did, keep the horses healthy by good management.
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Thanks but I don't need to. I never believe anything I read online or am told or see in a newspaper or magazine. I take it on board then go and do my own research which is what I would always advise anyone else to do.

So, to that end...go forth and research people...oh, hang on...most of us already have :-)
 
So, to that end...go forth and research people...oh, hang on...most of us already have :-)[/QUOTE]

I like critical thinking skills, so why don t you stop repeating the myths in press? Do you really believe 6500 horses dies in UK each year? Do you really believe each seed becomes an adult plant? Do you really believe UK is a poor agricultural country without management?
 
Oh please Esther give it a rest.


You are boring us all to tears, can't you spend your spare time campaigning to stop your countrymen giving their pigs so much worse welfare standards than UK pigs have, or something that actually matters?
 
EstherHegt said:
So, to that end...go forth and research people...oh, hang on...most of us already have :-)
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I like critical thinking skills, so why don t you stop repeating the myths in press? Do you really believe 6500 horses dies in UK each year? Do you really believe each seed becomes an adult plant? Do you really believe UK is a poor agricultural country without management?[/QUOTE]

I am not the press, don't aim such trite crap at me. This is borderline phishing now from you with the links you've shared and keep pushing. I'm out :-)
 
cptrayes said:
You are boring us all to tears, can't you spend your spare time campaigning to stop your countrymen giving their pigs so much worse welfare standards than UK pigs have, or something that actually matters?
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Maybe start another discusion and think in solutions ( without pigs? ) and about solutions? What happened in UK is so idiot. ragwort was always in Europe, it is a native plant. Good farmers know the plant. What is happened in house of commons is they compared the plant in country's it is not a native plant. PA poisoning is to prevent.
 
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I see your English hasn't improved any in the year you've been away Esther.

It's better than my Dutch, but then I don't post on Dutch forums telling Dutch people that they don't know how to look after their horses.

Please stop, it really is rude.
 
Oh Jeez.

I wonder if there's some sort of chemical spray we could use when she's in her dormant stage? EstX., or something?

I'd buy that.
 
Thanks very much my English is improved. I feel sorry for you that you do think I tell how your horses are ok. I only write about the biology about ragwort and what you can do about that, I only wrote there are a lot of myths that people made afraid. What happened in this discussion is people where angry when I said I have had it with the myths. The myths ar : 6500 dead horses a year. 2 : each plant makes 150.000 seeds ( that must be VERY BIG plants) and every plant becomes an adult plant 3: It is a very good wind dispenser. 4: the skin absoption myth. What I tell is when you manage the pasture there is not a big problem. It is very strange that in UK you see pics in press with neglected pastures and horses and blame ragwort for the neglect. Hay is a problem, but in a good hayfield is a dense sward, buy good hay. That is what I tell. I don't say to people you are bad, I say stop with the pasture neglect and blame ragwort for that.
 
Esther you'd be better off lecturing your own countrymen for lack of pasture management. I have seen more fields over here with ragwort and horses than in the UK. A lot of people over here don't do anything about it making it almost an impossible for those of us who do care about our animals. I believe it is more of an issue here in the Netherlands because pastures are so much smaller therefore increasing the risk that horses accidentally eat the bloody stuff or are forced to eat it because there is no grass. That is, the ones who do actually get turned out because their owners are not frightened they will hurt themselves and actually let them be horses!
 
Blah, blah, blah, blah and more blah, blah, blah, blah, YAWN

Esther your English has not improved - otherwise you would understand we are sick of your repetitive posts and we would like you to go away and leave our site and Ragwort alone.

GOODBYE!
 
Tnavas said:
Blah, blah, blah, blah and more blah, blah, blah, blah, YAWN

Esther your English has not improved - otherwise you would understand we are sick of your repetitive posts and we would like you to go away and leave our site and Ragwort alone.

GOODBYE!
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Sure I know you don't like me, but does that mean I have to keep my knowledge and don t share that?
 
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Oh my this thread made a come back!

Esther - did you not hear? Us English were never too concerned about the "myths" it is just a fugly looking plant that is better off erradicated, I'd rather cheese grate my own eyeballs than have to look at those dirty yellow flowers every day.
 
*groans* Oh God! We obviously didn't get rid of the whole root. It's come back ... *toddles off to find the Paraquat*
 
Esther, how about YOU read THIS:
http://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/ragwort

I don't care if it's one horse a year, it's one too many suffering a death like this.

Ragwort doesn't belong in any field, and all owners need to understand the facts of the pain and suffering it can cause. Then eradicate the ugly eyesore. The moths can sod off and find something else!
 
There's no veterinary studies to say that making my horses live off bacon sandwiches and hob nobs will kill them, doesn't mean I'm going to do it. It's a fact that ragwort kills.

Maybe there needs to be a study in to the psychological effects of long term ragwort exposure on a human.
Where to find the perfect candidate......
 
Talking of myths a friend of mine believed that no horse would ever eat fresh ragwort until she caught her horse taking it out of the barrow as she pulled the stuff.
The horse was pts for other reasons & the hunt had to condemn the liver. That says more to me than any dutch site.
 
I've got one too. When I pulled four self seeded plants out last year, one had been partly eaten :(

I'm not sure even paraquat will be enough to rid us of Esther, though.
 
I have to say, I am genuinely grateful for ragwort!

Ragwort keeps my pastures looking fab because during my regular ragwort checks I can pick up on anything else that needs attention.

Still, I'd much rather not having the stuff there in the first place!
 
EstherHegt said:
Thanks very much my English is improved. I feel sorry for you that you do think I tell how your horses are ok. I only write about the biology about ragwort and what you can do about that, I only wrote there are a lot of myths that people made afraid. What happened in this discussion is people where angry when I said I have had it with the myths. The myths ar : 6500 dead horses a year. 2 : each plant makes 150.000 seeds ( that must be VERY BIG plants) and every plant becomes an adult plant 3: It is a very good wind dispenser. 4: the skin absoption myth. What I tell is when you manage the pasture there is not a big problem. It is very strange that in UK you see pics in press with neglected pastures and horses and blame ragwort for the neglect. Hay is a problem, but in a good hayfield is a dense sward, buy good hay. That is what I tell. I don't say to people you are bad, I say stop with the pasture neglect and blame ragwort for that.
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Esther, dear, being rude about our pasture management again? You're becoming a bit of a wind dispenser yourself;)

Why devote so much of your time to a creature that is hellbent on being sauteed by a lightbulb?
 
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