Mrs B
Well-Known Member
Esther.
Do you want to know why, as we say here, you and your two colleagues have 'got everyone's backs up' ie annoyed the HHO members so much?
You came here with an agenda which makes no sense to us: to tell us we don't understand a pasture management 'problem' we have actually been managing very well over the years, and to discredit a man who has been a huge asset to the horse world.
You labour under the misapprehension that terrible rumours are currently circulating in the UK about the effects of ragwort being (or not being) absorbed through the skin or causing liver failure in horses.
They are NOT. Ragwort is occasionally mentioned on this forum but it is not a topic that concerns us much.
I like ragwort, as a plant. It's pretty, it supports a small ecosystem of its own and like every other example of flora or fauna that exists, it has a place and a purpose. But in the world in which we live, (i.e. massively overpopulated by humans) it's not always appropriate to allow it to flourish in every situation: and where it may become mixed into a hay crop is one of them. So we remove it. Fortunately, where I live it isn't as common as the area I grew up in 40 years ago, where we pulled it, by hand. And over the years, the plants became fewer in the pastures.
But back to this thread.
Bizarrely, your friend 'Ragwort Facts' then joined in, all guns blazing, to say that by spreading rumours, we may cause people to lose their jobs etc and that we're all too 'thick' to understand your arguments.
Well, that's just plain rude. And also more than a tad weird in the wider context :roll eyes:.
I have just read today about 5000 jobs being axed at Blackberry: about the fluctuating markets as a results of Angela Merkel's u-turn: about ongoing massacres in Syria: about efforts to rebalance the books in Greece while people and animals are starving: about 3,000 homeless horses facing destruction here, due to abandonment caused by the recession, as the charities can't cope: and even about this year's failed apple crop in the UK. But not one word about job loses or trashed reputations because of ragwort rumours spread by thick horse owners like me.
You and your friends may have a point (somewhere), about something to do with the little yellow-flowered plant we call ragwort; although unfortunately, you have failed to make it clear enough what that point IS to those who, like me, are obviously a bit on the 'slow' side. You may well be very passionate and dedicated and intelligent....
BUT you have totally and utterly blown this out of all proportion and therefore have lost any credibility for your cause. I am (I hate to admit) rather intrigued to understand how such a minor topic has taken over your lives to such an extent that you barge onto a forum such as this in such a manner.
What on EARTH has upset you all so much to take it to these extremes?
I guess on one level, you are to be congratulated. You have managed to make the entire membership of this forum (as existed prior to your arrival) agree on something!
Now that SHOULD make the headlines...
Do you want to know why, as we say here, you and your two colleagues have 'got everyone's backs up' ie annoyed the HHO members so much?
You came here with an agenda which makes no sense to us: to tell us we don't understand a pasture management 'problem' we have actually been managing very well over the years, and to discredit a man who has been a huge asset to the horse world.
You labour under the misapprehension that terrible rumours are currently circulating in the UK about the effects of ragwort being (or not being) absorbed through the skin or causing liver failure in horses.
They are NOT. Ragwort is occasionally mentioned on this forum but it is not a topic that concerns us much.
I like ragwort, as a plant. It's pretty, it supports a small ecosystem of its own and like every other example of flora or fauna that exists, it has a place and a purpose. But in the world in which we live, (i.e. massively overpopulated by humans) it's not always appropriate to allow it to flourish in every situation: and where it may become mixed into a hay crop is one of them. So we remove it. Fortunately, where I live it isn't as common as the area I grew up in 40 years ago, where we pulled it, by hand. And over the years, the plants became fewer in the pastures.
But back to this thread.
Bizarrely, your friend 'Ragwort Facts' then joined in, all guns blazing, to say that by spreading rumours, we may cause people to lose their jobs etc and that we're all too 'thick' to understand your arguments.
Well, that's just plain rude. And also more than a tad weird in the wider context :roll eyes:.
I have just read today about 5000 jobs being axed at Blackberry: about the fluctuating markets as a results of Angela Merkel's u-turn: about ongoing massacres in Syria: about efforts to rebalance the books in Greece while people and animals are starving: about 3,000 homeless horses facing destruction here, due to abandonment caused by the recession, as the charities can't cope: and even about this year's failed apple crop in the UK. But not one word about job loses or trashed reputations because of ragwort rumours spread by thick horse owners like me.
You and your friends may have a point (somewhere), about something to do with the little yellow-flowered plant we call ragwort; although unfortunately, you have failed to make it clear enough what that point IS to those who, like me, are obviously a bit on the 'slow' side. You may well be very passionate and dedicated and intelligent....
BUT you have totally and utterly blown this out of all proportion and therefore have lost any credibility for your cause. I am (I hate to admit) rather intrigued to understand how such a minor topic has taken over your lives to such an extent that you barge onto a forum such as this in such a manner.
What on EARTH has upset you all so much to take it to these extremes?
I guess on one level, you are to be congratulated. You have managed to make the entire membership of this forum (as existed prior to your arrival) agree on something!
Now that SHOULD make the headlines...
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? Im not sure, but I think I'd rather read Esther than Germaine 
