Rant alert!

But OP are you not judging the other owner? You pay your rent for your grazing, what happens in the other plots really isn't your business, if the YO is ok with the horse being in the paddock it is in, then that should be the end of it IMO
 
martlin said:
It always amazes me when people say that (in a post in NL :rolleyes:)...
Don't you think that quite a few posters at least read if not post in all areas of the forum? Or is it that otherwise polite and considerate posters in other areas reserve their dose of sarcasm, rudeness and general b!tchiness for their appearances in NL?
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Not sure what your point is here?:confused:
 
My point, if there was to be one, would be that by large, there are the same people in several areas of the forum.
But actually, it was a question not a point...
How many times there appears a thread in, let's say, CR, moaning and b!tching about how moaning and b1tchy the people in NL are? Surely, that's a bit like pot calling a kettle black, isn't it?
 
YorksG said:
But OP are you not judging the other owner? You pay your rent for your grazing, what happens in the other plots really isn't your business, if the YO is ok with the horse being in the paddock it is in, then that should be the end of it IMO
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This is what i thought - but OP later says that YO toldother owner what paddock she was allowed to use - and it wasnt that one. So other owner is officially in the wrong by using wrong paddock - which then means YO should be the one to tell her to hoof it if its not ok.

Thats how i read it? or has it been a long day for me? :-)
 
Well YO can't be that bothered, the horse has been in there for 2 weeks! I have to say it sounds to me as if the OP feels that she should be telling people where their horses can go, dependant on the needs of her horses, or at least that she is an unofficial yard manager, who monitors who puts their horses where. I must admit I am quite amazed that the OP is saying that she knows the other livery was shown which paddock to put her horse in and has gone in the wrong one, does the YO run all the decisions past her, or heaven forbid, perhaps the other livery and YO had a conversation that the OP was not privvy to, and reached an agreement without her say so!
 
nat1003 said:
My mare gets on with the other mare and isnt bothered by her at all whereas she has taken an extreme dislike to the new mare, to the point where she charges at her over the fence and has been coming in with cuts.
Shes not even supposed to be in that field but it was the only spare field so the owner, not YO, took it upon herself to use that field. YO had already shown her which field to use and it wasnt that one.

Susie T, take that twist out of your knickers. You just came across as a b*tch. Thank god my YO understands that some horses just dont get on and is willing to sort the situation.
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now wowe up there abit, okf so she may have been a little blunt, but she is just telling you the reality, why go and call her a b*tch :eek: . if someone that owned a field next door and you had the same problem you wouldn't tell them to move their horse would you?? if the YO said to put the mare in a different field it's not really to do with you is it. ok it's a livery so if you have a problem take it up with your YO and say that it's a problem but do not come on here and start slagging people off because they have given you their oppinions!!! :mad:
 
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Um not sure if you want responses to this or if you just wanted to say what was on your mind out loud....

However, some of the posts have been very bloody rude!

I will say what I think and you can ignore me if you like.

Firstly, your mare sounds like it has a few issues that WOULD be resolved by weaning that foal - however if you don't want to that is up to you.

Secondly, am I correct in assuming that the other owner pays the same as you but has to walk twice as far to both her fields? If this is the case then I think she is right in claiming one near and one far field....???

Thirdly, if the above (secondly) is correct and she has taken one near and one far field then really your mare's issues are your issues and not hers and I would go back to my first point and say wean the foal or perhaps put another field companion in to encourage more of a herd instinct than a maternal, hormonal attack instinct.

My mare behaved just like this when her baby was young - charged at the fence over and over but as I could do nothing about it I ignored it and they all got used to each other and in fact when my mare came into season the charging turned into flirting!!!

Leave them be and they will eventually get bored with each other...
 
BonneMaman said:
Um not sure if you want responses to this or if you just wanted to say what was on your mind out loud....

However, some of the posts have been very bloody rude!

I will say what I think and you can ignore me if you like.

Firstly, your mare sounds like it has a few issues that WOULD be resolved by weaning that foal - however if you don't want to that is up to you.

Secondly, am I correct in assuming that the other owner pays the same as you but has to walk twice as far to both her fields? If this is the case then I think she is right in claiming one near and one far field....???

Thirdly, if the above (secondly) is correct and she has taken one near and one far field then really your mare's issues are your issues and not hers and I would go back to my first point and say wean the foal or perhaps put another field companion in to encourage more of a herd instinct than a maternal, hormonal attack instinct.

My mare behaved just like this when her baby was young - charged at the fence over and over but as I could do nothing about it I ignored it and they all got used to each other and in fact when my mare came into season the charging turned into flirting!!!

Leave them be and they will eventually get bored with each other...
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Without meaning to sound rude I have at no point asked for opinions on weaning my foal. It is MY foal and there are reasons for what I am doing which I will not go into as this isnt the issue.

Secondly, the field which she has moved to is the same distance as the one she moved from, but now she has to walk through more mud. Everyone else has been in the same field all winter so that we still have some grass come spring.

YorksG I couldnt care less what the other people do with their horses but when it affects mine to the point where they are getting injured then I will raise the issue. I happen to class the YO as a friend and yes we do talk. I have not gone into all the other things this livery has done to YO as it is irrelevant to my rant. Lets face it, she's no angel.


My aim was to get things off my chest. Thankyou to the majority of people who have replied and been polite in doing so.
 
Fany Du Champ said:
I know it was what you wrote about but as to weaning, well how many fully grown horses do you see still feeding from their mothers in the wild? I applaud your wishing to keep it natural, hopefully if I ever breed off Fany I would like a natural weaning, which IMHO leads to a more self confident , secure offspring.

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Crikeys!! I know nothing about foaling really, but knows lots about breastfeeding and seems like its the same debates lol
 
Crickey, some people on here need to get out more! Or are they here cos if they spoke like they do in the pub they would get a slap in the mouth!?
I bet you wish you hadn't said anything Nat1003! Amymays suggestion seems a good temporary solution, though?
By the time I weaned Piper Dixie had given up protecting him, but she may well have started again if there was a perceived threat, I guess.
 
In order to protect your mare from further injury I would recommend putting up some electric fencing a metre or so in from the fence line to keep the mares apart.

Sounds like there could be an issue with a dominant mare.

Being a livery is always a compromise - that's why I am so glad I have my horses at home.
 
assuan said:
it makes me chuckle when I read the bitchy comments sometimes, it always reminds me of what a wise man once said, and I Quote:

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Lol!! Very funny :D

OP, I would also run some electric fencing along the adjoining fence to keep your mare away from it. It's debatable whether weaning or not weaning has anything to do with this situation (I think it's irrelevant from what you've said). There are two horses in your field and your mare may well have been protective over any companion.
 
Oops only just came back to this, what a calm and level headed person you are, I must have been mistaken before in calling you a drama queen ;)
OP-IF this is your attitude on the yard I'd not be listening to you either if I was the other owner..
In fact, as livery yards go, sounds like 'your mare' is the one causing the trouble, being aggressive and all...So maybe other livery could ask for yours to be moved? Perhaps to the field she has just come from? Just to turn it on its head.
Why does it matter what everyone else is doing with their fields? Everyone does things differently. So long as the horses are not suddenly put in your fields, it is between this livery and YO, and yes, it is irrelevant what the livery has done to the YO, I agree with all the points YorksG made on that subject.
 
The poor darling delicate flower is probably a nightmare to have as a fellow livery, I'm sure I'm not the only one seeing the signs...
 
I didn't read all the replies here...read the first few and then it was like blah boring blah with the rest. God knows what those people are like in real life-obviously sparkly perfect and destined for sainthood. I know you can't help who is nextdoor to you but you'd hope some people would think about others just a bit -I find in the horse world it is very much me, me, me. I hope you can work out a compromise with this livery; I must be soft but I'd be horrified if my horse was causing another one to suffer. When I was in a similar situtation with my mare who was recovering from a hock injury (and was petrified of some tiny ponies next door) I moved her into a top section of the paddock. It was only about 15 metres away but it did the trick. We're not exactly blessed with a great choice in livery round this area so it's hard to think of moving though I know you've had issues with this place before. I hope you get it sorted out.
 
nat1003 said:
Without meaning to sound rude I have at no point asked for opinions on weaning my foal. It is MY foal and there are reasons for what I am doing which I will not go into as this isnt the issue.

Secondly, the field which she has moved to is the same distance as the one she moved from, but now she has to walk through more mud. Everyone else has been in the same field all winter so that we still have some grass come spring.

YorksG I couldnt care less what the other people do with their horses but when it affects mine to the point where they are getting injured then I will raise the issue. I happen to class the YO as a friend and yes we do talk. I have not gone into all the other things this livery has done to YO as it is irrelevant to my rant. Lets face it, she's no angel.

My aim was to get things off my chest. Thankyou to the majority of people who have replied and been polite in doing so.
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If you do not want advice, do not post on here - simples..... It is very difficult for us to "see" what the geography of your fields is. Go and take it out on a bottle of wine instead of being rude to people who are trying to help.
 
hmmm a difficult one, every horse owner always wants the best for there horse regardless of others, this girl clearly wants her horse in that field as she feels , there more grass so better for the horse, and she prob thinks your the one being the d*ck and vice versa you think the same as her.

Its a no win situation , what ever your YO does one of you is going to be annoyed.

My mare is a funny bugger and gets upsets really easily, depending on what horses are near her, for instant a new mare has moved in across from her, she has ulcers and is going wild in her stable every time this mare dare look at her, she has not eaten her food for 2 days as it stressed out by the situation - you can imagine what this is doing to her Ulcers, ;-(

But i don't feel i have a place to say anything because who am i to dictate to where horses go in the yard, if YO bend to every one whims no one will be happy

sometimes i think you just have to get on with it and if you really are unhappy move on.

But i am sure if you give it some time you mare will eventually calm down, she prob just don't like change, you know what mares are like!! A pain in the A** some times LOL

I do hope it sorts it self out, nothing worse than being worried and stressed over your horse.
 
I'm slightly confused about this 'natural weaning' thing, is that when you leave the foal with its mother for so long that it drinks her dry? many mares are glad to see the back off their demanding foal so they can recover and eat for themselves, also I've never seen a happy well balanced youngster that was weaned late and but that I mean 9months to a year, but how long do some of you leave it?
 
snopuma said:
I'm slightly confused about this 'natural weaning' thing, is that when you leave the foal with its mother for so long that it drinks her dry? many mares are glad to see the back off their demanding foal so they can recover and eat for themselves, also I've never seen a happy well balanced youngster that was weaned late and but that I mean 9months to a year, but how long do some of you leave it?
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I just don't get how natural weaning is supposed to work when the mare and foal are out alone with no other horses, and the mare won't be having another foal to take the place of the older one?
I feel a bit sorry for the other woman tbh. Whatever her reasons for moving fields, her horse isn't the one causing the problems! Like some other people have said, the problem seems to lie with the OP's mare so she's the one who should be thinking about a solution.
 
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