red jackets

[redrobot]

i am under the impression that riders' red jackets are becoming less and less frequently seen on hunts and that riders are preferring to wear black or tweed. is this in fact the case and if so why is the red being worn less frequently?

 

[Orangehorse]

Only the hunt staff wear the red or pink jackets for autumn. After the Opening Meeting others wear it if entitled. Convention.

 

[redrobot]

After the Opening Meeting others wear it if entitled

what entitles people to wear red, if they are not hunt staff?

 

[conniegirl]

what entitles people to wear red, if they are not hunt staff?

Having been on a senior GB equestrian team (internationally) used to entitle you to wear it.

 

[AmyMay]

what entitles people to wear red, if they are not hunt staff?

The Master

 

[spacefaer]

Hunt staff, masters and (male) subscribers.

And they're called coats not jackets.

 

[ycbm]

what entitles people to wear red, if they are not hunt staff?

Being an ex master.

 

[ycbm]

Hunt staff, masters and (male) subscribers.

And they're called coats not jackets.

In the hunts I've been on subscribers wear a coloured collar or no identification at all.
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[spacefaer]

In the hunts I've been on subscribers wear a coloured collar or no identification at all.
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They're entitled to wear red coats.
Female masters wear navy coats with four brass hunt buttons and the collar on the hunt colour.
Male masters either red or black with 4 brass hunt buttons and the hunt collar.
Full subscribers the same but with 3 plain buttons unless they've been given their hunt buttons.

Obviously, this is traditionally. Nowadays, there can be various interpretations!

 

[redrobot]

subscribers... are these people who pay a membership to a hunt rather than just turning up occasionally?

 

[redrobot]

And they're called coats not jackets.

ok, will remember that

 

[sbloom]

:sneaksintosay: Aren't they pink?

 

[FestiveG]

And some are green

 

[Clodagh]

:sneaksintosay: Aren't they pink?

Actually they aren’t pink, they used to be made by Mr Pink, hence they were pinks but really they are red or scarlet.

 

[Clodagh]

And some are green

Harrier packs.

 

[Clodagh]

But there’s all colours nowadays.

 

[webble]

Harrier packs.

Do Harrier packs have any other specifics? What makes them green as oppose to red?

 

[Clodagh]

Do Harrier packs have any other specifics? What makes them green as oppose to red?

Hunt coats and their history is quite beyond me! I can tell you that stag and fox are red in the main and hare (harrier or beagle) are generally green.

 

[Orangehorse]

Not forgetting the Berkley - yellow.

 

[Parrotperson]

Not forgetting the Berkley - yellow.

Berkeley

Where hunt servants wear yellow, masters and subscribers if entitled wear hunting pink (red) . But a lot of subscribers entitled to wear the red coat don't bother these days because:sabs.

 

[sbloom]

I know they're actually red, but 20 years ago we'd all have been told off for calling them such. Tradishun and all that.

 

[ycbm]

God forbid you ever call a hound a dog!
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[Widgeon]

God forbid you ever call a hound a dog!
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They're dogs when they come trotting up my drive without an invitation....

 

[redrobot]

Berkeley

Where hunt servants wear yellow, masters and subscribers if entitled wear hunting pink (red) . But a lot of subscribers entitled to wear the red coat don't bother these days because:sabs.

how do sabs make riders stop wearing red coats?

 

[Widgeon]

how do sabs make riders stop wearing red coats?

A bright red coat makes you more visible, and more likely to be picked out as a target. I assume that's why subscribers might not be so keen on them.

 

[Parrotperson]

how do sabs make riders stop wearing red coats?

Because they feel they stand out wearing them and the sabs concentrate on them thinking they’re in control of hounds which of course they’re f they’re just subscribers they’re not.

 

[spacefaer]

subscribers... are these people who pay a membership to a hunt rather than just turning up occasionally?

Yes. If you hunt most days all season, it works out cheaper than paying the day "guest" or visitor rate.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

Only the hunt staff wear the red or pink jackets for autumn. After the Opening Meeting others wear it if entitled. Convention.

^^^ This was my understanding too, drummed into us from Pony Club. Also I think the hunt servants were entitled to either chop off the "ribbons" on the back of the velvet hunting caps which were worn back in the day (or tuck them in under), and were entitled to wear their black hunting boots with leather around the top edge of them. No-one else was.

Nowadays things seem a little more relaxed: and of course female hunt servants/MFH's are far more evident whereas years ago this was relatively unheard of!!

Probably the lack of wearing of the "hunting pink" is sadly a sign of the times, where hunt servants choose not to recognised out in the field as such and as such make themselves more of a target for those who do not support ANY form of hunting.

 

[Smitty]

I always thought it was hunting pink, but you referred to the wearer (if not hunt staff) as a red coat.

 

[spacefaer]

I always thought it was hunting pink, but you referred to the wearer (if not hunt staff) as a red coat.

Interesting! Every day is a learning day
I've never heard anyone described as a "red coat" by anyone other than antis.