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What ridden vices would you take on (if any)? Personally, I would take on a horse that is a known rearer (have had them come over with me a few times, and most other things in between from a kiddies rear-bunny hop- to a full scale rear and boxing). I would also take on a horse that rears in hand.

I would never take on a bolter, and depending on the severity, would rather not take on a bucker. If it is just little bucks every so often, that I can cope with. If it's huge vertical bucks and a few in a row every time you put your leg on, I'd rather not have to deal with that.

What about you? What do you count as acceptable?
 
See, I'd rather have a bucker than a horse that rears. They tend to still be thinking forwards when they buck whereas a rear strikes me as a nappy backward thinking response. My last horse bronked a bit, I didn't mind that but nappy horses really irritate me :o
 
milliepops said:
See, I'd rather have a bucker than a horse that rears. They tend to still be thinking forwards when they buck whereas a rear strikes me as a nappy backward thinking response. My last horse bronked a bit, I didn't mind that but nappy horses really irritate me :o
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You are not the only one who is irritated by nappers (as in those who nap towards gates/ home/ other horses. I know some people define a napper differently)! I also used to ride a horse that put his ears flat back and charged at any other horse in the school, regardless of how far away from him it was. I'm not sure what the technical name for that is, but our name for it was bloody annoying :p
 
Rather not have one that bucks or rears, but can put up with them on the odd occasion, even though with pony's last buck she ditched me.. :mad:

Don't mind napping if it can be worked through.

Wouldn't knowingly ride a horse with a reputation to bolt though, it's just dangerous.
 
Anything except bolting. The one & only time I have been on one was the scariest experience of my life. And the only two I have actually known turned out to have brain tumours.
Since becoming a mum, I'd still get on a rearer. But, not anything with a good chance of going over, unless I was pretty sure I knew what the actual cause was & how to prevent it. But otherwise doesn't bother me.
Bucking & broncing I've never been bothered by. Done in high spirits I've always found rather good fun rather than a problem.
That said, what I thought the cause was would be the deciding factor. A horse handled or 'trained' by morons, or one that just needs a more positive outlet for its energy, or even through fear wouldn't bother me. If through pain, no, unless I knew I had the budget to deal with it.
Tanking again, no problem. Napping I can deal with, but tbh I prefer horses that express their problem in a more lively way. And as a fan of opinionated mares, napping bothers me less when its a mare determined on having her own way.
 
my horse has reared and gone over once with me and hasnt reared since...although she can buck at times and throw in some very veird hop skips jumps haha dont really know what they are which i find more acceptable. when she bucks she gets a quick nudge/kick and wont do it again(just her playing up and having a little tantrum) where as when she goes to rear no kick or turning of the head stops her.. much rather have a bucker than a rearer. and with bolting my last pony bolted three/four times daily with me and it was easy to solve with two weeks training! theres a method to everything really its patience and confidence!:D
 
You lot seem so lenient haha!

I wouldn't have the patience for rearing, bucking, bolting... far too dangerous. A few years ago I probably wouldn't have gave it a second thought, but now I'm a mum I'm a lot more safety conscious and would like to get home to my child in one piece!

My mare has recently started napping... today she got to a point on a hack and walked backwards for 50ft.... probably because she knows the part we were coming up to was the scary part (a bridge and barking dogs in a garden) but still, such a pain in the ass!
 
Nothing now, I like an easy life and my straightforward horse.

TBH, I don't think I'd ever have bought a horse with an established habitual ridden vice (on purpose :rolleyes: ), but bucking, rearing and/or bolting are within most horses and will happen in particularly stressful situations.
 
i've had a bolter for 12 yrs now, so it doesn't bother me anymore, im sure it would if I were on a different horse! but i defo think as I have bolting experience, id rather than than a rearer, however, my 2 yr old has started rearing in hand, trying to get him out of it at the mo, not very successfully as I got boxed in the face by him on sunday! so I have a trainer coming out this friday to help me! im hoping he will grow out of it, because he is big and goes up vertical, never ridden a proper rearer!

would prefer a bucker i think
 
I wouldn't ride a horse that was strong or prone to taking control of the speed and ignoring me. I can't cope with it at all, and would rather not ride than ride a horse who was like that.

I don't mind silliness or general cheekiness if the horse is a nice one, who is only playing and knows where the line is. My old boy was awful a lot of the time, but he knew when to stop and always did.

I would never ride a rearer or a bolter. You couldn't pay me enough to get on one.
 
Horses take up far too much time and money for me to take on one with an established bad habit. Any horse might throw in the odd buck, or grump, or whatever, and of course I'd accept that - but if it's known to X, Y or Z, then I'll pass. Plenty more fish in the sea!

I'm also not very confident, so why ruin my enjoyment of something I love?
 
Well to be honest, I wouldn't ride a horse known to buck/rear/bolt/spin/tank off/spook for fun/roll to get riders off/ etc etc! :o

I'm a lot less brave...:o
 
Been bolted with once, many many years ago and do not wish to try it again. I do not like rearers and not that keen on buckers, so confirmed as having those vices would put me off. I don't mind a bit of sillyness and spooking isn't a huge problem, as long as we don't end up across the road too many times :)
 
I will work with anything, but if it bolts or rears vertical, I will turn it away for a few months and completely restart the whole process.

Bolting is a funny one because many people think they have a Bolter when in fact they have what I would call a runner. Running scared away from a perceived threat is very different to bolting. Bolting to me is a horse that will run straight into a wall or whatever is in its way. There are very few real bolters and as someone else has said, the only one I sat through turned out to have had an aneurism.

But, I will pretty much take on anything. I am not as brave as I used to be and i do perhaps take longer than needed sometimes, but it works for me.

Little pony I started working with last week is coming on leaps and bounds. Always been a spooky, scared of his own shadow type, very untrusting. He has run with his owner a couple of times, last time breaking her arm 9 weeks ago. One month ago he did it with her daughter in the school. He is running, not bolting as he is turning to avoid the fence, but he managed to dump the rider. Not true bolting, but still dangerous enough for me to advise against riding again without getting to the bottom of the issue.

Tonight, after just à week of groundwork, he was trotting with a high viz jacket (that he would previously not let anywhere near him) over his saddle.

After a bit of trotting, it would fall off...his reaction was to just stop. When riders have fallen off him or even tried to remove a jacket whilst mounted, he has run away. I tried an extra step and pulled the sleeve of this jacket through the dangling stirrup iron. His owner led him forward and as soon as it started to drag, he stopped. This is exactly what I want a horse to do when a rider falls of...no dragging a rider until the foot comes free.

It doesn't take long to rehabilitate even terrible issues if you are open enough to find the best approach for a particular horse. There are no set rules, but I honestly believe most issues can be completely reversed.
 
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I used to re-school naughty horses and seen a fair few in my time. Very often this so called "problem" horses have never been a problem when they've come to me! So I would always consider any horse, as many times it is the rider that is the problem. However, now that I have a sensible job and don't need to risk my life to afford to eat I would only take on a rearer after very careful consideration. I would definitely not take on one with a history of going over.

Nappy horses don't bother me (I do realise that it is very closely linked with the above) and neither do bolters (maybe because I have not yet come across a real bolter, just lots which their owners claim bolt but are realisticly just strong or as some else has posted "runners").

Bucking and broking doesn't really bother me too much, but again, now that I am getting older (26) I would put a lot more thought into it than I would have done 8 years ago!

I suppose I wouldn't necessarily turn any horse down, I would just be careful and ensure that whatever problems they come with aren't going to be the cause of my death!
 
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Springy said:
GG you sound like my hubby... he will ride anything and if he doesnt like the way it is he will restart it

I however am now officially a wuss lol
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Oh...me too, lol. I won't blinking get on a horse that is going to bronc around the place, it hurts too much when I fall off now. I used to be called Bouncy Bray and got stuck on all the stupid horses when I was a kid, but i have a bit more self preservation now ;-)

I usually find most issues just stem from a horse getting confused. Riders wanting too much too soon and horse shutting down or giving conflicting aids thinking they are riding leg to hand. Horses will only put up with it for so long.

Usually sorted by going back to the very basics of reminding the horse to go, stop and turn, then slowly building them back up.

I just wish it paid well enough for me to do it all the time as I get so much outed it.

The way I look at it, I don't train horses. If I watch and listen, they willmtell me what the problem is and how to deal with it. Just have to be able to listen to them.
 
Don't bounce like I used to so wouldn't take on anything with a known ridden vice.

Don't mind the odd spook, nap, baby happy bucks etc. but bolting, vertical rears and head between legs bucks scare the proverbial out of me!
 
Most ridden vices are in fact RIDERS vices, and with thoughtful schooling they will go away (the vices, not the riders). I'm getting on a bit, but will still climb on most things to sort them out, not in a crash test dummy kind of way, but most horses give up pretty easily. An old trainer once told me that if a horse really wants you off, you're off. If you want to fall off, that's your own business.
 
youngfarmer said:
What ridden vices would you take on (if any)? Personally, I would take on a horse that is a known rearer (have had them come over with me a few times, and most other things in between from a kiddies rear-bunny hop- to a full scale rear and boxing). I would also take on a horse that rears in hand.

I would never take on a bolter, and depending on the severity, would rather not take on a bucker. If it is just little bucks every so often, that I can cope with. If it's huge vertical bucks and a few in a row every time you put your leg on, I'd rather not have to deal with that.

What about you? What do you count as acceptable?
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I'd prefer none but if I had to take on something I'd much rather a bucker than anything else - at least you get pinged off facing forwards and generally not going that fast :D
 
I've just started riding an IDxWB and she's tall! She can also be spooky and I've seen her rear and buck and it was scary to watch. So each time I ride her it's fingers crossed time. I'm hoping my calmness will win her over. The other chap I ride is a very naughty coblet who done some mean rider removal manoeuvres in the past few months. So far he's been well behaved with me but he's got quite a buck on him once he builds up some momentum. I don't know how sensible I'm being if I'm truthful. I'm enjoying the challenge but I've only been riding 18 months and I know I am good at keeping horses calm but I don't know if it's worth the worry sometimes. :confused:
i wish I was 25 years younger and better at bouncing.:(
 
I don't like rearers, had one go over with me and woke up in hospital, would have been a lot worse if it had happened on concrete instead of in the school on a soft surface. Still managed to put a large crack in my hat. Rearers terrify me!

Ridden plenty of known buckers, depends on severity, not keen if they are literally going to bronc until you come off. One horse came to kennels with a bad reputation for bucking grooms and hunt staff off and was consequently kicked out of her former hunt. She was quirky, wouldn't tolerate a stick and nervous of traffic. I rode her on her own or led her but didn't attempt to lead off her.

I wouldn't get on a true bolter but the term bolting is over used and I don't think I have come across one.
 
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