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This is only tongue in cheek but try telling him what is going to happen if he doesn't get better and stop grumping at you. I remember us struggling to load my sister's mare in a snowstorm, she was being a total idiot about it. It wasn't until my sister told her she would end at the knackers that she finally got the message and loaded as good as gold.
 

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Maybe one to debate with your vet but perhaps see whether you can get some meaningful pain relief into him for a good few days and maybe that would help sort out what of his behaviour is learned and what is related to pain.

We have tried iv pain relief with no improvement.
 

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I know it's not what you want but maybe a few days at the vet for IV antibiotics and anything else he needs would be best for him. From what you've described, while he's unwell and clearly unhappy, the fact he's bright when he has a good day suggests you haven't reached the end of the journey yet. Did you get the piece of straw? Could that be causing him more discomfort than you first thought?
 

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Will ask about that. Tbh I know nothing about testing for cushings just that it came back at 11.

BUT today I am changing my thinking. Yesterday he told me he was in deaths door. This morning he grumped at me, I said “no!” He had a melt down. However he then went to field and bounced about. When I left I watched from round the corner as he spent 10mins galloping round field. Flat out up and down interspersed with the pinging trot with ears meeting at the tip. Rearing, spinning round and generally having a great time. His buddy would say we are done now but he would carry on. If he was THAT sick I am pretty sure he wouldn’t be able to carry on in quite such an extreme way (while thinking no one was watching). We know he is not well we have seen the ulcers and the lung infection. However I wonder if it is slightly behavioural too. He is smart and has worked out how to manipulate me. Ie if I grump she will back off and say there there. If I totally over react if she tells me off, again she backs down and says oh I’m sorry Robin. I don’t doubt he is feeling miserable but the performance in the field makes me think he is maybe not as terminal as he would like me to think. I didn’t think horses could think that way but has he learned how to push me around?

I’d be thinking the same, a horse on deaths door doesnt gallop around playfully. Thats actually good news.
I’d be trying to get him turnout time more regular than 24/7 boxrest if it perks him up that much.

If he’s been on box rest for many weeks on end due to illness, with some horses just being confined constantly can help send them downhill because theyre frustrated with lack of freedom, especially if used to a lot of freedom.

my horses know when they can ‘pull my strings’ and manipulate me, sometimes we dont give them credit for how clever they are!
Fingers crossed he and you come through this soon, big hug x
 

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Wishing you and Robin all the very best. For what it's worth, seeing him bomb around the field would certainly make me want to keep trying. Hope the weather is ok and you are able to get Robin to horsepital for tests and maybe treatment. Fingers crossed and virtual hugs to you both.
 

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He is utterly miserable tonight.

Another livery has just had a baby and her sister is looking after her horses. Sister was up tonight and turns out she is the nurse dealing with him tomorrow.
 

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He is utterly miserable tonight.

Another livery has just had a baby and her sister is looking after her horses. Sister was up tonight and turns out she is the nurse dealing with him tomorrow.
Well nice to have some personal input for Robin today!. Thinking of you and hoping you get some results and answers.
 

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He is there just now and I’m sat in car park. Raised the issue of “how much longer can we do this” with vet and he didn’t dismiss idea ?
 

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It was really useful the nurse seeing him last night as she was able to tell the vet how he was last night and how low he was rather than just coming from me. He got a bit upset and anxious when we got there and I hated leaving him.
 
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