Rollkur/Hyperflexion

We've already had a visit from this particular troll in TR :rolleyes:

Remember, every time you feed one a kitten dies! :eek:;)
 
Just as point I believe Rolkur is banned but hyperflexion is permitted in dr warmup for 15 mins max or is that low deep round? BUT I don't agree with any form of hyperflexion as it can be damaging to a horse. However are you meaning low deep round which can be beneficial?
 
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JFTD said:
You shouldn't go around beating people in classes. It's just not on - sickening violence is never acceptable - the BS rule about how many times you can hit your horse in a round should apply equally to you using it on other competitiors too.

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Hahaha.Just my type of humour ;-)
 
Lolo said:
As an aside, I accidentally managed to have half my friends think we had a mad racist uncle. Because they overheard me talking to my mum on the phone about "Reg the Pole basher". Took a bit of explanation that Reg was a horse prone to knocking down fences, not a man prone to racially aggravated attacks :D
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HAHAHA!!!
 
Always struggled to see the point in rollkur :confused:
I warm up by long and low stretches, loosening the muscles, and allowing blood to flow to the tissues. I hate it when mine goes behind the vertical as he just looses his rhythm and 'forward floaty-ness' as I call it :D

I spoke to a girl at a show once who had just bought a warmblood who'd been trained in Rollkur, he had learnt to tuck his nose in to his chest whenever bit contact was applied and she had been schooling for months to get him out of it! He had a very tense back and muscle damage so was having physio to help.
 
Without seeing OP ride, troll or not, it's such an over used and much mis-used term.....when does LDR become rollkur, when does a stretch become LDR?

Depending on the audience, you could say that all of the following are too deep, too btv, too low and indeed all of them have received that flack, but I personally wouldn't call them rollkur, others have...






 
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Interesting reading if anyone can be bothered - explaining how Hyperflexing influences the different gaits in a negative fashion.
 
Sorry, still laughing at the whole "horses wouldn't jump of their own accord". Yeah, tell that to my neighbour's horse when he jumped a 7' high, 8' wide hedge for the hell of it.

Rollkur is disgusting. It just makes me think of stress positions you can place people in...and I'm pretty sure use of them constitutes torture.
 
Golden star I quite agree but HAVE had people who think they know more than they actually do, whisper behind my back that I hyper flex horses!!! My point being, you and I don't think this is hypereflexion, but some do and until OP provides pics of her version, we can't or shouldn't jump all over her, she might only be doing t he same as me?
 
Does hyper-flexion disengage the neck? I think I might have accidentally done it to mine today on a hack, it didn't take any sort of force, we had a fairly loose rein, and lots of leg, I was trying to encourage him to stretch down. He suddenly became weirdly passive and curled under, I jumped off because it was such a strange sensation, I thought he'd got his tongue over the bit. He definitely wasn't happy about it!!
 
Well PS your horse is over bent in those photos but in your pics you have a loose rein which is totally different IMHO than forced rollkur

The op should post up pics of themselves performing hyperflexion, that is the only way i could believe this thread is not a hoax
 
Wheels said:
Well PS your horse is over bent in those photos but in your pics you have a loose rein which is totally different IMHO than forced rollkur

The op should post up pics of themselves performing hyperflexion, that is the only way i could believe this thread is not a hoax
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i don't have any pictures on my computer, and im not riding today but ill take some tomorrow and post them up.
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
Without seeing OP ride, troll or not, it's such an over used and much mis-used term.....when does LDR become rollkur, when does a stretch become LDR?

Depending on the audience, you could say that all of the following are too deep, too btv, too low and indeed all of them have received that flack, but I personally wouldn't call them rollkur, others have...






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if people had read my OP properly, they would have hopefully got the idea that this is what i mean and i work the horses like this for 5- 15 minutes MAXIMUM.
 
Op you need to grow up a bit. You are trying to start an argument with anyone who disagrees with you or choose to make very juvenile comments. You asked for advice, people have given it, take it on the chin.
 
LDR is beneficial to stretch the back and bum. I use it.

Hyperflexion/RK is NOT.

You can feel it yourself. Sit/ stand and pull your chin right into your neck without stretching the back of your neck down- uncomfortable and rigid. Stretch your neck down and then bring your chin onto your chest- you can feel the muscles from your back to your bum stretching.
 
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