RSPCA SHAME ON YOU

Moomin1 said:
If they are in that much of a crisis why on earth are you sat on a public forum? Get out there and do something to help! :rolleyes:

If they are so bad, call the vet out?!

Hypocrisy muchly!
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Do I sit and go on about being part of an organisiation that is supposed to HELP animals?
No I dont.....hypocrit? No
Have I been trying to help (despite being over 3oo miles away), um yes I have.
Which is more than your shower of utter s**t have done so far!
Hypocrit my a**.....
 
Moomin1 said:
Generally because of people like you who are so misinformed that they jump to conclusions. :rolleyes:
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You are like talking to a brick wall .............. I give up

You only answer the questions you want to anwer...

I would LOVE the rspca up here to be helpfu but they arent

QUOTE from RSPCA officer " what do u care if the horse has no food or water you lot up there tether your pit ponies to round abouts"

I am clearly not the only one that think they are rubbish.... Like I say would love them to be better...

You only have to open the news papers nearly everyday to see what the public now think of the RSPCA

Local charities do so much more than they do

I have first hand experience of them being pants but clearly I musnt be able to see with my own eyes what happens.....

wheres that Ignore button?????
 
joeanne said:
So instead of jumping all over springy a**......how about jumping to help those ponies? Eh?
If the RSPCA spent more time DOING the bl00dy job they were created for, then maybe there would be less of the "bashing threads"
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Err, because it's not my place too? I support the RSPCA. I am not a member of staff. :rolleyes:

I just love the way people on here who slate the RSPCA are so hypocritical. They make out they are sooooo concerned about some horses, saying they are out there literally dying as we speak, yet they are sat there on their typing away on a forum! :rolleyes:
 
Moomin1 said:
Err, because it's not my place too? I support the RSPCA. I am not a member of staff. :rolleyes:
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Maybe I have a memory problem but I am damn sure you have stated before that you work or worked for them?
If not then I must apologise.....but you are still totally off your rocker!
 
at the end of the day we give the RSPCA our own money to help animals like this and they sit back and do ****** all, why give donations then? they get over 100 million a year!
 
Moomin1 said:
Err, because it's not my place too? I support the RSPCA. I am not a member of staff. :rolleyes:

I just love the way people on here who slate the RSPCA are so hypocritical. They make out they are sooooo concerned about some horses, saying they are out there literally dying as we speak, yet they are sat there on their typing away on a forum! :rolleyes:
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As do the people who are so concerned about defending the RSPCA...

Plus, spreading word via social forums/media can be invaluable in this type of situation.
 
joeanne said:
Maybe I have a memory problem but I am damn sure you have stated before that you work or worked for them?
If not then I must apologise.....but you are still totally off your rocker!
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You must have a memory problem then love! ;)

Call me what you like...
 
Moomin1 said:
Err, because it's not my place too? I support the RSPCA. I am not a member of staff. :rolleyes:

I just love the way people on here who slate the RSPCA are so hypocritical. They make out they are sooooo concerned about some horses, saying they are out there literally dying as we speak, yet they are sat there on their typing away on a forum! :rolleyes:
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Yep, that would be me....stood next to a major road holding onto a not very 'used to being handled' pony in the freezing cold for almost 3 hours whilst another officer held the other one, and in the meantime, the police control was doing it's best to try to locate someone to assist such as the RSPCA and they said NO........great that. A potentially dangerous situation that the police told the organisation they were dealing with and it was still NO......

My estimation of them went down somewhat that day.
 
B_2_B said:
What a ridiculous thing to say!
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why ridiculous? If an animal is in such dire need why shouldnt someone so something about it off their own back? If you all seemingly get your wish and the RSPCA no longer exists who will you ring then? Before you all say it WHW field officers and RSPCA work VERY closely. Deary me the police would suddenly have a hard time finding spaces for all these animals they will have to become responsible for under the animal welfare act!!

Are you all forgetting that the RSPCA isnt appointed by law to be responsible for all animals. It does what it can.

Just saying
 
DragonSlayer said:
Yep, that would be me....stood next to a major road holding onto a not very 'used to being handled' pony in the freezing cold for almost 3 hours whilst another officer held the other one, and in the meantime, the police control was doing it's best to try to locate someone to assist such as the RSPCA and they said NO........great that. A potentially dangerous situation that the police told the organisation they were dealing with and it was still NO......

My estimation of them went down somewhat that day.
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You do of course realise that it is the police that are bound by law to deal with stray horses in a public place?;)
 
Moomin1 said:
If they are in that much of a crisis why on earth are you sat on a public forum? Get out there and do something to help! :rolleyes:

If they are so bad, call the vet out?!

Hypocrisy muchly!
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Moomin I am not trying to pick a fight with you but the RSPCA have been very sucessful in becoming the agency ( for want of a better word ) who prosecutes animal welfare cases it ismy view that this is not the best way forward and this this side of things would be better handled by apporiatly trained and resourced police officers.
The RSPCA was happy to become the public face of animal welfare however now they have an issue they need to raise more money and quite a lot of people think twice before donating to them .
Why should a member of the public with no connection to the ponys meet the cost of calling a vet to them , in the member of the publics view they see the RSPCA ads on telly watch the TV programmes and think that what the RSPCA do they save animals in need so don't roll your eyes when they get understandably disgruntled when they see animals in need and the RSPCA in their eyes doing nothing.
 
MillyMoomie said:
why ridiculous? If an animal is in such dire need why shouldnt someone so something about it off their own back? If you all seemingly get your wish and the RSPCA no longer exists who will you ring then? Before you all say it WHW field officers and RSPCA work VERY closely. Deary me the police would suddenly have a hard time finding spaces for all these animals they will have to become responsible for under the animal welfare act!!

Are you all forgetting that the RSPCA isnt appointed by law to be responsible for all animals. It does what it can.

Just saying
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So missy clever clogs......what happenes when a person finds a dumped pony, knows NOTHING about them, takes it home and calls the RSPCA. They are unable to care properly for it, the police are no longer bound to do anything as its not roaming.....so what happens now?
RSPCA going to come get it then?
Ok......
Yup.....
Can see THAT happening......:rolleyes:
 
MillyMoomie said:
why ridiculous? If an animal is in such dire need why shouldnt someone so something about it off their own back? If you all seemingly get your wish and the RSPCA no longer exists who will you ring then? Before you all say it WHW field officers and RSPCA work VERY closely. Deary me the police would suddenly have a hard time finding spaces for all these animals they will have to become responsible for under the animal welfare act!!

Are you all forgetting that the RSPCA isnt appointed by law to be responsible for all animals. It does what it can.

Just saying
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Because people ARE trying to do something!

It's ridiculous to say if people are so bothered they should go and physically be there... hundreds of miles travel, in the middle of the night, leaving behind kids that need to be at school tomorrow, their own animals etc...

There are things you can do that don't involve "getting off the computer" :confused:

Also, I don't want rid of the RSPCA, I want big changes to happen that result in improvements.
I don't accept that they do the best job they could if they used their resources in a better way and changed the way they operate in some ways.
 
I was not going to post on this thread, but can't sit on my hands any longer! It is nice to see that Moomin1 has finaly got her head round the legal stuff about RSPCA (none) powers of entry. On the one had she tells us she has been training police staff, but that she doesn't work for the RSPCA, she works on call and goes into the houses of people who keep muliple animals while claiming benefits (and has some choice things to say about them :eek: ) Her friend came on here to tell us that Moomin1 spends her days dealing with animals in distress and being pts. If she doesn't work for the RSPCA, then I presume she is in training to be wonder woman! I also think that she does the cause of the RSPCA no good whatsoever on this forum.
 
YorksG said:
I was not going to post on this thread, but can't sit on my hands any longer! It is nice to see that Moomin1 has finaly got her head round the legal stuff about RSPCA (none) powers of entry. On the one had she tells us she has been training police staff, but that she doesn't work for the RSPCA, she works on call and goes into the houses of people who keep muliple animals while claiming benefits (and has some choice things to say about them :eek: ) Her friend came on here to tell us that Moomin1 spends her days dealing with animals in distress and being pts. If she doesn't work for the RSPCA, then I presume she is in training to be wonder woman! I also think that she does the cause of the RSPCA no good whatsoever on this forum.
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Amen.
 
DawnR said:
at the end of the day we give the RSPCA our own money to help animals like this and they sit back and do ****** all, why give donations then? they get over 100 million a year!
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have you? Really?

In fact has anyone who slates the RSPCA actually donated to them??? Be honest. because if not then please don't criticise an organisation that you have given no help to.

Regarding the poster about those ponies in dire need, and on deaths door, you know this from 300 miles away???

The RSPCA can only act within the law, and to those that claim they do otherwise, they wouldn't have a 98% success rate in their prosecutions if they didn't.
 
YorksG said:
I was not going to post on this thread, but can't sit on my hands any longer! It is nice to see that Moomin1 has finaly got her head round the legal stuff about RSPCA (none) powers of entry. On the one had she tells us she has been training police staff, but that she doesn't work for the RSPCA, she works on call and goes into the houses of people who keep muliple animals while claiming benefits (and has some choice things to say about them :eek: ) Her friend came on here to tell us that Moomin1 spends her days dealing with animals in distress and being pts. If she doesn't work for the RSPCA, then I presume she is in training to be wonder woman! I also think that she does the cause of the RSPCA no good whatsoever on this forum.
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Ahhh so you equate RSPCA inspectors to wonder women/men!!!! well sometimes reading these forums I think they're expected to be!!! lol!
 
YorksG said:
I was not going to post on this thread, but can't sit on my hands any longer! It is nice to see that Moomin1 has finaly got her head round the legal stuff about RSPCA (none) powers of entry. On the one had she tells us she has been training police staff, but that she doesn't work for the RSPCA, she works on call and goes into the houses of people who keep muliple animals while claiming benefits (and has some choice things to say about them :eek: ) Her friend came on here to tell us that Moomin1 spends her days dealing with animals in distress and being pts. If she doesn't work for the RSPCA, then I presume she is in training to be wonder woman! I also think that she does the cause of the RSPCA no good whatsoever on this forum.
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Quite frankly, nobody could do any good whatsoever in your eyes from the RSPCA! I asked you this previously, and you never responded. Please can you tell me when and where I have ever said the RSPCA have powers? TA MUCHLY! ;)
 
competitiondiva said:
have you? Really?

In fact has anyone who slates the RSPCA actually donated to them??? Be honest. because if not then please don't criticise an organisation that you have given no help to.
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I used to dontate to them monthly...

however once my eyes were opened its a no...

I give to foxhound welfare, Prince Fluffy Kareem, the local wildlife rescue and also I donate some money here and there to other cases like the people on here who had a burglary at their stables (maybe Scotland cant remember)

However when it comes to the RSPCA I would rather convert my money into pound coins and individually shove them up my bum than give them any more money......
 
competitiondiva said:
have you? Really?



Regarding the poster about those ponies in dire need, and on deaths door, you know this from 300 miles away???

The RSPCA can only act within the law, and to those that claim they do otherwise, they wouldn't have a 98% success rate in their prosecutions if they didn't.
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Yes....yes I do know this from 300 miles away. This has been an ongoing problem that the RSPCA have refused to attend. There are people up there now, trying to help the worst.

And as for donating....yes I used to. Until I discovered that the shelters are self funded, and they spend 4 MILLION pounds so the HUMANS can sit in nice plush offices working out the bonuses they might get this year.

ETA: and after I spent £1000's of pounds putting right a pony THEY refused to attend to. You search out Stig. You tell me he was not worth a visit!
 
competitiondiva said:
have you? Really?

In fact has anyone who slates the RSPCA actually donated to them??? Be honest. because if not then please don't criticise an organisation that you have given no help to.

Regarding the poster about those ponies in dire need, and on deaths door, you know this from 300 miles away???

The RSPCA can only act within the law, and to those that claim they do otherwise, they wouldn't have a 98% success rate in their prosecutions if they didn't.
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No because I don't think my money would be put to good use.
I could think of so many charities and organisations I would (and do) donate to before I gave a penny to the RSPCA in it's current state.

So, you can only pass opinion (often from experience) on charities if you've donated to them? :eek:
 
as for police our boy who was sold on loan was up in Scotland when trying to get the police to help.. I was very happy to be told I would be dealing with a female officer who had horses...only she had no interest as his passport had was with him, when I told her it was law for him to have his passport she replied with "I have two horses out on loan, in no circumstances would I give up there passports", I responded with well ur breaking the law.... needless to say she and the police were of no help, and im sure shes a member on here !!
 
competitiondiva said:
have you? Really?

In fact has anyone who slates the RSPCA actually donated to them??? Be honest. because if not then please don't criticise an organisation that you have given no help to.

Regarding the poster about those ponies in dire need, and on deaths door, you know this from 300 miles away???

The RSPCA can only act within the law, and to those that claim they do otherwise, they wouldn't have a 98% success rate in their prosecutions if they didn't.
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If the RSPCA had not become the main agency that prosecute welfare cases I might accept you have a point but when they act as the main prosecuting authority we have every right to criticise them no organisation to above criticism from individuals in fact it's healthy and right that these feelings and issues get raised.
 
Springy said:
I used to dontate to them monthly...

however once my eyes were opened its a no...

I give to foxhound welfare, Prince Fluffy Kareem, the local wildlife rescue and also I donate some money here and there to other cases like the people on here who had a burglary at their stables (maybe Scotland cant remember)

However when it comes to the RSPCA I would rather convert my money into pound coins and individually shove them up my bum than give them any more money......
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And there lies the answer! ;)
 
Springy said:
Im presuming that people know the difference between civil law and what law the Police can act on and also Scotish Law is also different.....

Not ALL laws are enforceable by the Police .....
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I am presuming then if you are in Scotland you know the difference between the SSPCA and the RSPCA. If not, you are on the wrong thread love.
 
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