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Hi, I have a 13 year old grey thoroughbred, who used to have many sarcoids, but were lasered off about 7 months ago. None had come back until about a month ago when I notice two right at the top of either back leg and one very small one on his chest. All look like spheres and I think he may have an occult on his belly. Vet said they were likely to come back when they were taken off. What can I do to slow them down (preferably not surgical)? Particularly nasty creams aren’t an option as he’s very sensitive around them due to past trauma, he wouldn’t have the flour salt paste on after about three tries. Been using sarc ex on him for a while but then again intermittently at times. How much do people put in each feed? Is it likely to work on him as I’ve heard it’s better on younger horses?
 
I had one lazered on his inner stiffle. Unfortunately it grew back. And with a vengeance. I’m actually going down the oily herbs and turmeric route. I can’t get near his either. He will kick. I’m packing rosemary. Oregano. Thyme. Basil. And big spoon falls of turmeric into his feed twice a day. It has honestly reduced in size. I get Tumeric from Indian section at Sainsbury’s. 1.99 a big bag. Rest on line.
 
Mine had one under his eye, a bobbly one, & I put cold sore cream on it. It's cheap on Amazon. I didn't realise how much it was holding them in check until he went away for a month & OMG they had gone crazy! I started the cold sore cream again and they started shrinking & dropping off. Not sure what happened next as I sold him.
 
Some weirdo's roll their eyes at the mention of tumeric but purely speaking from experience - Ive mixed turmeric with sudocrem and smeared it thickly onto sarcoids on 2 different horses (both had a long term sarcoid which eventually got irritated by flies one summer). Fed them golden paste too (recipe online). The sarcoids both healed up beautifully and went away very quickly. Both sarcoids went totally flat and literally I can barely see where they were on either horse. That was many years ago and neither sarcoid has made an appearance since! Id def go down this route first. I had a mare who had the liverpool cream on a sarcoid on her face before I got her and she was left with a huge scar so Id try everything before considering it.
 
MagicMelon said:
Some weirdo's roll their eyes at the mention of tumeric but purely speaking from experience - Ive mixed turmeric with sudocrem and smeared it thickly onto sarcoids on 2 different horses (both had a long term sarcoid which eventually got irritated by flies one summer). Fed them golden paste too (recipe online). The sarcoids both healed up beautifully and went away very quickly. Both sarcoids went totally flat and literally I can barely see where they were on either horse. That was many years ago and neither sarcoid has made an appearance since! Id def go down this route first. I had a mare who had the liverpool cream on a sarcoid on her face before I got her and she was left with a huge scar so Id try everything before considering it.
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Ive done similar

have also used Thuja Cream from Farm and Yard Remedies with some success
 
I found sarc ex didn't work on mine, but when I changed him over to omega herbs sarc xpell, all 13 sarcoids disappeared over a few months.
 
Just on a cautionary note: I mixed turmeric and sudocrem and applied to a sarcoid, which seemed to aggravate it and it grew to about 10 times the size very very rapidly.
I have previously used toothpaste and cold sore cream (separately) and both small sarcoids fell off in a few weeks.
I have also done nothing and the sarcoids fell off in time.....
 
Google Radiance Gold- amazing results! It’s a dietary supplement which boosts immunity. Lots of evidence online.
 
Try Thuja tablets from the homeopathic shop, and/or Thuja cream. This worked on some, the last one which had grown bigger was frozen off. no pain and positive result for the rest of her life.
 
Caracorn said:
Hi, I have a 13 year old grey thoroughbred, who used to have many sarcoids, but were lasered off about 7 months ago. None had come back until about a month ago when I notice two right at the top of either back leg and one very small one on his chest. All look like spheres and I think he may have an occult on his belly. Vet said they were likely to come back when they were taken off. What can I do to slow them down (preferably not surgical)? Particularly nasty creams aren’t an option as he’s very sensitive around them due to past trauma, he wouldn’t have the flour salt paste on after about three tries. Been using sarc ex on him for a while but then again intermittently at times. How much do people put in each feed? Is it likely to work on him as I’ve heard it’s better on younger horses?
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when i got my mare she had a small one on inner thigh on near hind, she then got more 2 under girth one by boobies and one on face, the face one was a pain to go and spread but vet got it and killed it now she is sarcoid free
 
My boy had a pretty large sarcoid on his tummy, vet wanted £2.5k to remove it. Someone suggested the sarcoid cure to me from Facebook, it took 10 months and was quite an ugly experience but it disappeared and has never grown back.
 
olop said:
My boy had a pretty large sarcoid on his tummy, vet wanted £2.5k to remove it. Someone suggested the sarcoid cure to me from Facebook, it took 10 months and was quite an ugly experience but it disappeared and has never grown back.
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Tried sarcoid cure on him, after about 5 days he decided he wasn’t having it and was starting to try and rear or kick when I tried to put it on.
 
Boots*McGruber said:
Glad you've had positive results! How did you manage to get hold of her? I've never seen the messenger option available on her page & I check fairly regularly.
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Do you use Facebook messenger? I think the only way I managed to get hold of the page was via searching for the group on Facebook messenger. I believe she doesn’t allow for messaging on weekends and when she’s away which caused abit of a glitch for me as I couldn’t ever see a message button on the Facebook page. You can try commenting on one of the posts too (however prewarning this sometimes results in a snarky reply! But it’s definitely not just us that have had issues getting through so not sure what she expects lol)
 
SpotsandBays said:
Do you use Facebook messenger? I think the only way I managed to get hold of the page was via searching for the group on Facebook messenger. I believe she doesn’t allow for messaging on weekends and when she’s away which caused abit of a glitch for me as I couldn’t ever see a message button on the Facebook page. You can try commenting on one of the posts too (however prewarning this sometimes results in a snarky reply! But it’s definitely not just us that have had issues getting through so not sure what she expects lol)
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Yes thanks, I do use Facebook messenger. I’ll just try searching on there then, though so far it’s not coming up.
 
So I have mare that first grew her sarcoid at 10. She's now 24 and retired because of them. I have tried a lot of treatments - vet and herbal. Unfortunately they have grown back every time. We tried banding, vet creams and freezing. Each time it grew back worse. Then tried various herbal remedies...one very popular one on FB, mentioned above, told me it didn't work (after 6 months of buying the paste and feed additive) as I didn't believe! I then tried an Arc Equine. It certainly made them drop out but she then had a lot more of various types appear. I can't use most creams on them as it causes them to bleed and weep. I have found I can use Sudocrem but even then she flinches as I apply it. I haven't tried mixing it with tumeric. I am currently trying Indiba (I am lucky enough to have a very good friend that is trained in Indiba). i was recently told by my vet that the most succesful vet treatment is laser but that is only 60-70% succesfull. I wish you good luck as I really don't believe there is any proven treatment. XX
 
I feed oily herbs (thyme, oregano, sage, rosemary), I also feed the ingredients for Radiance Gold (brewers yeast, bicarb, fenugreek, milk thistle) and then I also feed the main ingredients to Sarc-ex (tulsi leaves, amla powder, ashwaghanda). I also use the flour and salt paste but if he wont tolerate topical treatments, feeding the main ingredients for the most recommended supplements is worth a try, and much cheaper.
 
olop said:
My boy had a pretty large sarcoid on his tummy, vet wanted £2.5k to remove it. Someone suggested the sarcoid cure to me from Facebook, it took 10 months and was quite an ugly experience but it disappeared and has never grown back.
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Hi did you message and get the recipe? She only responds to messages and the page now looks inactive. Thanks
 
Sarys said:
Hi did you message and get the recipe? She only responds to messages and the page now looks inactive. Thanks
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equal weights of plain cheap table salt and white flour, plus water to make into a paste viscous enough to smear and stay on the sarcoid. You can make up to 4 days worth at a time. Apply AM & PM, a fairly thick covering the whole way over it. Try your best not to get it wet, and try to stop feeding soy, high sugar and anything with refined oils in it - that from memory, about covers it. The idea is that it dries it all out and it either heals or drops off. Be prepared for it to get worse before it gets better
 
Caracorn said:
Hi, I have a 13 year old grey thoroughbred, who used to have many sarcoids, but were lasered off about 7 months ago. None had come back until about a month ago when I notice two right at the top of either back leg and one very small one on his chest. All look like spheres and I think he may have an occult on his belly. Vet said they were likely to come back when they were taken off. What can I do to slow them down (preferably not surgical)? Particularly nasty creams aren’t an option as he’s very sensitive around them due to past trauma, he wouldn’t have the flour salt paste on after about three tries. Been using sarc ex on him for a while but then again intermittently at times. How much do people put in each feed? Is it likely to work on him as I’ve heard it’s better on younger horses?
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Copper sulphate (agri store) mixed into a Sudocreme / Vaseline paste to make sure it smears and sticks on the sarcoid. Keep applying, it usually goes dark, dries up and the ‘pip’ drops out.
Probably worth boosting the immune system with appropriate diet / supplements, a lot of people swear by turmeric and oily herbs, and they wouldn’t hurt even if ineffective for your horse.

If trying toothpaste, ideally high strength Duraphat 5000 (might need a dental prescription these days?)
Acyclovir cold sore treatment can be very effective on small, new growths, but probably not on a returning growth.
Bloodroot cream can create excessive soreness, so avoid if sensitive, likewise ‘Liverpool cream’ from the horsepital.

Good luck.
 
jules9203 said:
So I have mare that first grew her sarcoid at 10. She's now 24 and retired because of them. I have tried a lot of treatments - vet and herbal. Unfortunately they have grown back every time. We tried banding, vet creams and freezing. Each time it grew back worse. Then tried various herbal remedies...one very popular one on FB, mentioned above, told me it didn't work (after 6 months of buying the paste and feed additive) as I didn't believe! I then tried an Arc Equine. It certainly made them drop out but she then had a lot more of various types appear. I can't use most creams on them as it causes them to bleed and weep. I have found I can use Sudocrem but even then she flinches as I apply it. I haven't tried mixing it with tumeric. I am currently trying Indiba (I am lucky enough to have a very good friend that is trained in Indiba). i was recently told by my vet that the most succesful vet treatment is laser but that is only 60-70% succesfull. I wish you good luck as I really don't believe there is any proven treatment. XX
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Tell me more about using the Arc Equine for sarcoids?
 
ARC equine should never be used for sarcoids.

Q: Is an ArcEquine suitable for horses with cancer?

A: The use and safety of microcurrent therapy with cancer has not yet been clinically established. Whilst microcurrent therapy may provide benefits relating to pain management and the functionality of healthy cells, the possible effects of the microcurrent therapy on the cancer cells are currently unknown. Therefore, we do not recommend the use of the ArcEquine for those with suspected or diagnosed cancer of any type.
 
LEC said:
ARC equine should never be used for sarcoids.

Q: Is an ArcEquine suitable for horses with cancer?

A: The use and safety of microcurrent therapy with cancer has not yet been clinically established. Whilst microcurrent therapy may provide benefits relating to pain management and the functionality of healthy cells, the possible effects of the microcurrent therapy on the cancer cells are currently unknown. Therefore, we do not recommend the use of the ArcEquine for those with suspected or diagnosed cancer of any type.
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Thank you!
 
I have had great success with Global Herbs Sarc-X, i think i fed 2 tubs of it and then the sarcoid popped out from under the skin. Healed up fine and never came back.
 
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